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shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Mar 14 @ 2:05 PM ET
When was the last time we saw a sign and trade in the NHL.
- GoneFullRetard

Hossa?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:05 PM ET
We need a high end Center to even start a discussion...Toronto needs to find a way to secure the best C prospect available this draft... they are currently doing that by losing every game....just need to stay on task
- senstroll


will Burke draft a russian tho?

i certainly wouldnt mind Galchenyuk... the American russian.. that would be a burke type russian for sure lol
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:05 PM ET
I guess my point being that our 3rd line sucks now.

If we take Kule and Mac and put them on the 3rd line then it injects some offense and they are still good defensively.

Then we shore up our 2nd line with maybe a guy like Parise and suddenly we have some balanced scoring.

I still see use for those guys.

- leafs93


I see use for Kuli and Mac on a 3rd line too. They're both good for that role. However, players to fill those roles are a hell of a lot easier to acquire than a young superstar.
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
will Burke draft a russian tho?

i certainly wouldnt mind Galchenyuk... the American russian.. that would be a burke type russian for sure lol

- Dozzer


He's also Belarussian, so Grabo could take him under his wing and teach him how to drop Habs fans and their wives if things ever get out of hand in any of the local establishments.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
I'm ok with Kessel. Yeah sure Seguin and Hamilton would look nice, but a 40 goal scorer isn't anything to shake a stick at. Don't tell me Jared Knight. (Greg McKegg is better than Knight)
And likely we would have drafted Ross with that pick anyway.

The Gardiner/Lupul and Kaberle trades made up a little bit for the Kessel deal.

Still... get rid of the fat, I couldn't care less "veterans" and go with mostly youth next season.

Also... Get a MOTHER (frank)EN VETERAN BACKUP and/or dump Francois Allaire!

- leafs_wingp


This thinking is all flawed.... Later trades do not make up for the Kessel debacle.

In one breath you say you are OK with it, but then have to feel better "making up for it"

Its ok to admit the Kessel deal was a disaster for the leafs. he is a fine player but I dont think you should build around him, hes a nice piece but Sequin is nicer with Hamilton all day long


Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:06 PM ET
I like him too and thought that's where we'd end up. I wonder if Colorado will unite him with his brother. We'll see where we end up amigo.
- mykokes


i would be more than happy if toronto walked away from the draft with him

good point about colorado tho
leafs93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 14 @ 2:07 PM ET
Yak is a winger and I doubt columbus moves that pick.. unless some miracle that someone else wins the #1 pick...Yakupov is a Jacket.

I think Montreal needs a Center as well... Edm needs D .... somehow we need to suck more than Montreal..or get lucky and jump them with the lottery win

- senstroll


Looking at the standings this morning, I would say CBJ for sure we can't catch and an outside chance of catching EDM.

I think 3rd last is definitely doable and maybe inevitable.

I would expect EDM to take Dumba since they are loaded at forward.

Could leave us with a good position to get a good forward.

shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Mar 14 @ 2:08 PM ET
He's also Belarussian, so Grabo could take him under his wing and teach him how to drop Habs fans and their wives if things ever get out of hand in any of the local establishments.
- 1979AD

That full year he ran from Sergei taught him so much.
senstroll
Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Mar 14 @ 2:08 PM ET
will Burke draft a russian tho?

i certainly wouldnt mind Galchenyuk... the American russian.. that would be a burke type russian for sure lol

- Dozzer


If he wouldnt take a player simply because his name sounds Russian..he needs to go sooner than later before the leafs end up in the AHL because they cant compete with Columbus.


1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:08 PM ET
Yak is a winger and I doubt columbus moves that pick.. unless some miracle that someone else wins the #1 pick...Yakupov is a Jacket.

I think Montreal needs a Center as well... Edm needs D .... somehow we need to suck more than Montreal..or get lucky and jump them with the lottery win

- senstroll


Hopefully it comes down to the last game of the season. Price will have "the flu" and Reimer will be wearing bantam goalie pads, and Mike Brown and Ryan White will see the most ice time of any forwards. It's will be interesting.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:08 PM ET
He's also Belarussian, so Grabo could take him under his wing and teach him how to drop Habs fans and their wives if things ever get out of hand in any of the local establishments.
- 1979AD


you mean because his dad is belarussian?

either way thats funny lol

but the son was born in milwaukee i believe
pens_66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.11.2009

Mar 14 @ 2:09 PM ET
Who's that?
- mykokes


Carter Ashton
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:09 PM ET
That full year he ran from Sergei taught him so much.
- shinebox


source?
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:10 PM ET
you mean because his dad is belarussian?

either way thats funny lol

but the son was born in milwaukee i believe

- Dozzer


He's an American like you said, but like I said, also Belarussian (dual citizenship).
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Mar 14 @ 2:10 PM ET
Hopefully it comes down to the last game of the season. Price will have "the flu" and Reimer will be wearing bantam goalie pads, and Mike Brown and Ryan White will see the most ice time of any forwards. It's will be interesting.
- 1979AD


Pfft, Kessel's going to play all 60 minutes to get to 40 goals. Final score: Montreal 12 Phil Kessel 4
leafs93
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 14 @ 2:11 PM ET
This thinking is all flawed.... Later trades do not make up for the Kessel debacle.

In one breath you say you are OK with it, but then have to feel better "making up for it"

Its ok to admit the Kessel deal was a disaster for the leafs. he is a fine player but I dont think you should build around him, hes a nice piece but Sequin is nicer with Hamilton all day long

- senstroll


On paper and potentially Seguin and Hamilton are nicer but as of right now only 1 of them is in the NHL and Kessel is outscoring him.

I don't think Seguin gets anywhere near the points he is getting now in Leafland where Kessel you could say he might have more in Beantown.

The trade can't be determined for years.

shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Mar 14 @ 2:11 PM ET
source?
- 1979AD

Hockey, you should watch some.
mykokes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: RELEASE THE LATVIAN!, ON
Joined: 11.09.2009

Mar 14 @ 2:11 PM ET
Carter Ashton
- pens_66


Ah, yeah. I like him, but not sold on him either.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:12 PM ET
If he wouldnt take a player simply because his name sounds Russian..he needs to go sooner than later before the leafs end up in the AHL because they cant compete with Columbus.
- senstroll


burke is all about "character" tho.. so if the toss up is between a north american player and a russian player who do you think burke will pick?

my guess is he will go with the north american nearly everytime.

the leafs have what? 4 euros?

grabovski, kulemin, gustavsson, and gunnarsson

burke is responsible for bringing in one of them.
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:12 PM ET
He's an American like you said, but like I said, also Belarussian (dual citizenship).
- 1979AD


ahhhh i didnt know he had dual citizenship.. thanks for clearing that up
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:13 PM ET
Pfft, Kessel's going to play all 60 minutes to get to 40 goals. Final score: Montreal 12 Phil Kessel 4
- mykokes


That would be a win win! He'd finally be that "40 goal scorer" Leaf fans call him and we'd stick it to the Habs
1979AD
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "I'm a Sens Fan!" -Kaptaan
Joined: 09.08.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:13 PM ET
Hockey, you should watch some.
- shinebox


Source?
Dozzer
Referee
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Somewhere over the rainbow since I’m way up high
Joined: 09.15.2010

Mar 14 @ 2:14 PM ET
That full year he ran from Sergei taught him so much.
- shinebox


what are you rambling on about now? lol
shinebox
Location: I like to think we're one of t
Joined: 09.30.2011

Mar 14 @ 2:14 PM ET
That would be a win win! He'd finally be that "40 goal scorer" Leaf fans call him and we'd stick it to the Habs
- 1979AD

Surely this never happens.
pens_66
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 04.11.2009

Mar 14 @ 2:15 PM ET
Ah, yeah. I like him, but not sold on him either.
- mykokes


I like him too, he`s looked really good out there in the few games he`s played in however I`ve already seen a lot of fans on here talking up his potential as if he`s going to be a big impact player. A lot of fans wouldn`t be nearly as disappointed if they just evaluated their players more realistically
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