But aren't you tired of putting in guys that we hope are going to be front line goalies?

Nitti, Harding, Bishop fall under that catagory. No more growing pains in net for me.

Huet would be a stop gap but no better than Giggy was. For what is available Nabakov would be best UFA pickup in my opinion but I truly think we need to go the trade route.
- leafs93

PLEASE....honestly...id much rather dump assets and get a legit goalie than Nash/Carter types.

Well hello, Mr Clean. How goes it today?
- weirdoh

Pretty good, Weirdoh. Pretty sunburnt but otherwise alright... Just burning through a little of my internet time checkin' up on the hockey world.

I feel so left behind... I didn't even know Wilson was fired until a couple days back

You think Boyd Devereaux would be available? That clutch hatty to vault the Buds into the 7th pick instead of the 5th alone should earn him a look going into next year.
- 1979AD

damn....forgot about that slugger...yea, throw him in there instead of Bozak!

priority list is as follows.

1) Goalie
2) Goalie
3) Goalie
4) Goalie
5) Goalie
- noename09

I cleaned up your typos.

we are fine

Gus has a .920 sv% under Carlyle

Burke will focus on getting Nash..since thats what we need now that Gus is solid
- senstroll

We need to keep stressing this point so people will just leave the goalies alone for the time being

I cleaned up your typos.
- 1979AD

I'm thinking Komi and Connolly in a package should land us Luongo.

Pretty good, Weirdoh. Pretty sunburnt but otherwise alright... Just burning through a little of my internet time checkin' up on the hockey world.

I feel so left behind... I didn't even know Wilson was fired until a couple days back


- Mr_Clean

WTF!? Wilson was fired!? He must've got caught using his office computer for porn or something because if his coaching (or lack thereof) was going to get him fired, it would've happened last year.

Was he put on waivers? I just knew he went to the minors.
- Leafsfan9329

http://www.sportsnet.ca/h...01/25/niittymaki_waivers/

I cleaned up your typos.
- 1979AD

And if Gus posts a .920+ sv% over the remaining games?

Still needs to go?

We need to keep stressing this point so people will just leave the goalies alone for the time being
- mfreedman

Yup .920 over a whole 5 games. Why don't we just change his nickname to "The Answer"?

WTF!? Wilson was fired!? He must've got caught using his office computer for porn or something because if his coaching (or lack thereof) was going to get him fired, it would've happened last year.
- 1979AD

Disagree

it would of happened two years ago.

And if Gus posts a .920+ sv% over the remaining games?

Still needs to go?
- mfreedman

Yes. I think the lesson of evaluating a goaltender based on meaningless games should have been learned after last year.

And if Gus posts a .920+ sv% over the remaining games?

Still needs to go?
- mfreedman

I think you have to re-sign him.

He is one of the youngest UFA goalies available. He is an asset still. So sign him even if the intent is to trade him later. Don't lose him for nothing though.

With that being said, media saying Leafs can't go into next season with Reimer/Gus but also they can't go in with anything that would amount to less than them such as Reimer/Scrivens for example.

As a safety net you make sure you have at least Reimer/Gus signed for next year and then still go after a number 1.

Disagree

it would of happened two years ago.
- Dozzer

I did some research and it turns out Wilson was fired because his boss didn't want to subject him to the "cruel and unusual punishment" of the boos and chants of the home crowd. I knew it couldn't have been his performance.

Yup .920 over a whole 5 games. Why don't we just change his nickname to "The Answer"?
- 1979AD

in fairness.. gustavsson got an unfair shake playing in Wilsons open offense system.

this is one of those situations where a goalie would leave toronto only to have success somewhere else and 80% of leaf fans would be crying in two years about how we werent patient enough.

we honestly have no clue as to what we have... reimer needs seasoning in the minors to get over this funk.. keep gus and maybe try and get mason out of columbus.. he'd be cheap and he prolly just needs a change of scenery

I think you have to re-sign him.

He is one of the youngest UFA goalies available. He is an asset still. So sign him even if the intent is to trade him later. Don't lose him for nothing though.

With that being said, media saying Leafs can't go into next season with Reimer/Gus but also they can't go in with anything that would amount to less than them such as Reimer/Scrivens for example.

As a safety net you make sure you have at least Reimer/Gus signed for next year and then still go after a number 1.
- leafs93

A one year 2-way contract would be acceptable.

I did some research and it turns out Wilson was fired because his boss didn't want to subject him to the "cruel and unusual punishment" of the boos and chants of the home crowd. I knew it couldn't have been his performance.
- 1979AD

I'm losing faith in Burke right now too.

Grabo for more than Kessel is making, I don't know about that.

Connolly was a good chance to take, but not at that price.

Komi......WTF!!!!!

I did some research and it turns out Wilson was fired because his boss didn't want to subject him to the "cruel and unusual punishment" of the boos and chants of the home crowd. I knew it couldn't have been his performance.
- 1979AD

the wilson defenders always like to bring up how he is 6th or whatever all time for coaching wins

so what

his winning percentage was only around 0.535% for his career.. nothing special at all.

I cleaned up your typos.
- 1979AD

common mistake...sorry...

i am glad for the franchise tho.. tallon is doing a nice job making them competitive.. they are by no means cup favorites but they need the playoffs to get their fanbase halfway interested again.

florida fans are fickle (i am including TB in this).. if you succeed they seem to come out but if you dont do well.. they leave ya in the lurch.
- Dozzer

True that. And who can blame them, really? If, say, a basketball franchise started up in Winnipeg that a) really sucked and b) was located in a terribly inconvenient location (a la Florida and Phoenix), I wouldn't make much of an effort to get into it... Win and they will come.

Isn't also true that Miami isn't really a great sports city to start out with? I know the Marlins struggled to draw, not sure about the Heat or Dolphins in recent years.

Although bixll's tale of Tampa Bay Lightning giveaways might suggest otherwise

I'm happy for them too though, this isolated troll aside... I find my attitudes towards fan bases are more directed towards particular fans...

For example, at the end of this year I plan to make fun of Prock for his attitudes towards the Senators and Jason Spezza in particular... But have no desire to troll the fan base in general

And if Gus posts a .920+ sv% over the remaining games?

Still needs to go?
- mfreedman

OMG YES

Yup .920 over a whole 5 games. Why don't we just change his nickname to "The Answer"?
- 1979AD

In a more defensively responsible system (not much more, but more none-the-less)

How do you expect a goalie to have a competative save percentage in the NHL under the system Wilson employed?

Go back in time to a man named Grant Fuhr.

While playing in EDM's run n' gun offense, Fuhr never managed a sv% over .900, yet was regarded as a great goaltender. All they cared about was the team's stats. When Gus was playing regularly, his stats weren't great, but the team was in 4th in the conference.

Gus' stats havent been in his favour because of the system in front of him.

Now that we will have one, his numbers will climb. Guaranteed.

A one year 2-way contract would be acceptable.
- 1979AD

I'm good with that, but he will be UFA so his agent will be going to other teams for offers.

I'm thinking a contract similar to his last one with maybe a very small raise. Either way, he can be packaged. Would love him to stay in Toronto but only as a backup and I don't think he thrives as a backup, I think he needs the minutes.

I'm losing faith in Burke right now too.

Grabo for more than Kessel is making, I don't know about that.

Connolly was a good chance to take, but not at that price.

Komi......WTF!!!!!
- leafs93

grabo is more than justified (one look at the FA centres this season and it isnt hard to figure out why).. and you cant compare his UFA contract to Kessel's RFA contract.. completely different circumstances

Connolly was the second best centre on the market this past season... Burke took a chance and grabbed him.. he hasnt really panned out but he's not signed long term by any means.. so.. in fairness.. it was a reasonable chance to take.

Komi should start to look better as Carlyle's systems take hold.. he also becomes a tradable asset next season as he will be making less than his cap hit.

We need to keep stressing this point so people will just leave the goalies alone for the time being
- mfreedman

I say let Gus play the rest of the year........ if he shows that he can produce under a Carlyle system, then concentrate on upgrading the talent up front