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eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 14 @ 10:23 AM ET
A work friend of mine who is a big time Hockey guy LOVES HIM. He was the same guy that was telling me the Isles should grab Skinner 2 months before that draft.
- niteislander

The Scouting Report's bio on him in their mid-term rankings baffles me. There's hardly a knock on his game in there, yet they have him ranked at #18. Although these rankings were from Jan. 30th. My guess is he goes somewhere in the 9-13 range.

18. RD Cody Ceci – Ottawa (OHL)
DOB: Dec. 21/93 | Shoots: R | Height: 6.02 | Weight: 207lbs
As it stands, Ceci has to be considered one of the premier defensemen not only in the OHL, but the Canadian Hockey League as a whole. He plays a strong offensive game and has developed into an exceptional puck mover and one of the top powerplay players in the OHL. Ceci has a big shot and does a good job distributing the puck and activating in the offensive zone. His defensive game has improved considerably since his 16-year-old season, but he still needs to show an increased commitment to the defensive end. As an 18-year-old, Ceci is a little ahead in the development curve of some of the other defensemen in the draft, but his strong offensive upside makes him a quality pick in this range.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 14 @ 10:25 AM ET
Wow, Ovechkin's awesome...most goals of anyone since the year 205 according to Butch
- UIF



heard that awesome...that guy is a total p.o.s.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 14 @ 10:27 AM ET
by the way.. Grigorenko is not going to last 4 picks.
- niteislander

I tend to not go by anything that Button says. He either ranks people oddly to stir up some controversy and get his name out there or he just likes to be different. Grigorenko at 7 and Murray at 10 are ridiculous. I'm also really, really curious to see how Galchenyuk finishes out the season now that he's back from not playing all year.
special_k1074
New York Islanders
Location: Clifton, NJ
Joined: 01.22.2011

Mar 14 @ 10:29 AM ET
Seriously this team needs to go back and work on fundamentals next year, start from the basics. Every game i watch i always see two islanders within a foot of each other and then they both get in each others way and then turn the puck over. It reminds me of little kids playing soccer with both teams all trying to kick the ball at the same time.

I never see the other teams do any of this they all work in space together. I don't know if its the system they are using to get out of the defensive zone or they just don't want to be seperated for too long. It is a good thing that weeds do not grow through the ice so they can just sit there and pick them while the game is going on.
niteislander
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.13.2010

Mar 14 @ 10:32 AM ET
I tend to not go by anything that Button says. He either ranks people oddly to stir up some controversy and get his name out there or he just likes to be different. Grigorenko at 7 and Murray at 10 are ridiculous. I'm also really, really curious to see how Galchenyuk finishes out the season now that he's back from not playing all year.
- eichiefs9


I have such a love/hate for the draft. I love looking at the possibilities and hate that we are one of the teams able to draft them again.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 14 @ 10:44 AM ET
I have such a love/hate for the draft. I love looking at the possibilities and hate that we are one of the teams able to draft them again.
- niteislander

I am one of those draft junkie losers. Aside from playoff hockey, it will always be my favorite time of the year. Even if/when we are drafting in the later parts of the first round, I'll still love it.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Mar 14 @ 10:47 AM ET
There's a very good answer to that...and it's that I don't remember the play
- UIF



ahaha it was in the second against johansson
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 14 @ 10:48 AM ET
You think that management should be basing its decisions on what the fanbase wants? That Haley was sent down to Bridgeport because management was oblivious to what the fanbase wanted? You don't think it had anything to do with his play? Just that the "management" was oblivious?

If anything, a team that can barely scrape together 11K fans per night in attendance would do anything in its power to appease its fanbase. Teams shouldn't be making personnel decisions based on what the fans want. Personnel decisions should be based on what wins hockey games. For all the love Haley gets on these boards, its not as if he's a star in waiting. The guy has been in the minors for years. Nobody else offered him a contract when his deal with the Isles expired last summer. I think he deserves a shot on the fourt line over a guy like Wallace, but its not as if his play is so stellar that its a no-brainer to put him on the team.

- Jethro09



haha the main point was that no player throughout the season has been held accountable for their poopty play...legit, no one!!! so its asinine to believe that haley was sent to BP simply because he was overexcited and took a few penalties...(im still trying to understand the bold; seems like the epitome of contradiction)....no one is saying haley is a super star and is the difference between a cup contender and where they are now BUT he is GREAT at what his job is therefore it IS a no-brainer to put him on the team. guys like pandolfo (who does just enough to not be hated) and reasoner (who is hated) have no business on this team and haley would be exponentially better than those 2 assclowns....at this point, i dont want to see the guy cause i want them to lose out and show no heart; if they brought haley up at this point there would be a pulse...we cant afford that at this point.

and yes, even if its a measly 11k ppl that show up and want they guy, management would be dumb not to listen...in fact i could make a case that the teams with awful attendance should listen to the fan base SIGNIFICANTLY more than the teams with great attendance.
ISLES1119
New York Islanders
Location: LONG ISLAND!!!!, NY
Joined: 10.14.2010

Mar 14 @ 11:10 AM ET
After the game last night, I wasn't surprised that Capitals came back in the third period. We can see that Islanders were wiped out in third period. It is what it is. I loved Ullstrom and Cizikas. I am looking forward to see what they can bring in a full season next year. I am serious. If Islanders are thinking about keeping DP here next season, We have to BOYCOTT them! He is not above the team and will never. Unfortunately I know that we should have traded Parentau and Nabakov. The point is that we never did and let's move on. I just hope Snow is smart enough to do something that is effective for the team in the short run.

LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 14 @ 11:26 AM ET
After the game last night, I wasn't surprised that Capitals came back in the third period. We can see that Islanders were wiped out in third period. It is what it is. I loved Ullstrom and Cizikas. I am looking forward to see what they can bring in a full season next year. I am serious. If Islanders are thinking about keeping DP here next season, We have to BOYCOTT them! He is not above the team and will never. Unfortunately I know that we should have traded Parentau and Nabakov. The point is that we never did and let's move on. I just hope Snow is smart enough to do something that is effective for the team in the short run.
- ISLES1119



disagree....moving on isnt the answer...holding people responsible and accountable for dropping the ball on those 2 is priority #1A...gotta weed out the problem, cant just sweep things under the rug.


as for the boycott, i legit think there should be a walk out or a gathering in a section(s) and voicing our opinion....IE with cappy and ownership.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Mar 14 @ 11:47 AM ET
Is the season over yet? Not sure I can watch a second more
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 14 @ 12:02 PM ET
Is the season over yet? Not sure I can watch a second more
- Vukota



according to the schedule? no
according to the way this team plays? been over for months
Killer' Carlson
New York Islanders
Location: Due Diligence, NY
Joined: 06.30.2009

Mar 14 @ 12:02 PM ET
I'm just gonna respond to both of your responses here, and please understand I'm not saying "I'm right, your wrong" or anything like that. Rielly is all offense, and while it certainly wouldn't hurt us on the blueline I think we need size and physicality, not to mention he tore his ACL in November and has been on the shelf all season. Reinhart is low on every other draft board, and while he has size his big knock seems to be that he doesn't use it enough (a la Ty Wishart). Dumba to me is in the mold of PK Subban. Loves the highlight reel hits, makes a good first pass, and can chip in a respectable number of points. Murray at #10 on Button's list is ridiculous, that's way too low. I'd love him too. Trouba has the size at 6'2'' and the physicality, but his offfensive game is still developing.

I wouldn't put a ton of stock in either of those articles on Murray either. One is a local newspaper reporting that the best player on a horrible team won team MVP and the other is a preseason article from September. Don't forget Murray was atrocious at the World Jr's. Again, not knocking him (or your opinion of him). Just playing devils advocate.

My dark horse is Cody Ceci. He's got size and a complete game. I think whoever gets him mid-1st round is going to get a steal.

- eichiefs9


Dalton Thrower

Kid does it all, and most of all has HEART... Skates well, a nice shot, plays the game with intelligence, hits, plays the PP, already a leader, aggressive, kid doesn't backdown to anyone, sticks up for his mates, blocks shots... this kid is so well rounded and plays like everything you want from a Dman, also a great character guy.

I just hope he's there in the 2nd for our taking
Mike C
New York Islanders
Location: Centereach, , NY
Joined: 07.05.2007

Mar 14 @ 12:20 PM ET
You will all disagree with me but I say trade the pick for top quality NHL Caliber player...ie. Dustin Brown, Bobby Ryan, Keith Yandle or someone like that. If Snow keeps the pick, then trade the #2 pick for someone of NHL caliber...
- kear20


okposo for heatley........
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Mar 14 @ 12:46 PM ET
i really got nothing today..we all needs to know what has to change...starting with the coach...the need for a second line and of course the defense.. i will say though that Ullstrom played great last night..but my good this is beyond obscene..i'm as glass half full as anyone but i got nothing right now
- NYI78

Welcome to reality
Isles316
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island , NY
Joined: 01.15.2008

Mar 14 @ 1:01 PM ET
100% to blame? Of course not...but defend him all you want, an .857 save percentage ain't gonna get it done on most nights. As bad as Neuvirth looked in that game, he actually walked out of there with better numbers on the night than Nabby. And the win. And he made a couple of big saves in between the bad goals...two on Bailey come immediately to mind. Don't recall offhand Nabby robbing anyone last night. I remember him not being busy at all until the Washington goal parade started.

It's not like this was an anomaly for recent games either... his last 7 games, including last night, he's .857, .889, .750, a very respectable .941, .828, .912, and .826. His season sv% has gone from near-career highs down to .914 in that time.

I expect better from a guy we preemptively took off the market and who we're likely going to have to overpay to keep...if he stays.

- UIF


Those stats are over rated though. I'll ask you again, how is nabby supposed to stop any of the goals he gave up ? He stopped a breakaway and made first save on both ovechkins goals.

Bottom line in my opinion, yes his numbers are down but look at the isles defense last night. How (frank)ing bad was it? The team has major breakdowns several times a game, and even our best d man Hamonic and the entire team has a habit of backing up allowing opposing players to walk in zone at will. It's a major flaw with the coaching staff to not correct this stuff. Either that or our players are idiots.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Mar 14 @ 1:25 PM ET
Those stats are over rated though. I'll ask you again, how is nabby supposed to stop any of the goals he gave up ? He stopped a breakaway and made first save on both ovechkins goals.

Bottom line in my opinion, yes his numbers are down but look at the isles defense last night. How (frank)ing bad was it? The team has major breakdowns several times a game, and even our best d man Hamonic and the entire team has a habit of backing up allowing opposing players to walk in zone at will. It's a major flaw with the coaching staff to not correct this stuff. Either that or our players are idiots.

- Isles316


Eh, the D has been the same bad D all year. All year long this team has been pinned in its own zone for most of a given game, giving up good chances in front, not taking the body, and crashing into and screening its own goaltender. It's not like we sold off a bunch of good defensemen at the deadline and that has directly led to Nabby's numbers dropping. Same bad D at .914 that it was at .924, playing the same chaotic brand of defensive hockey. Nabby played out of his head for a while there...seeing pucks through traffic, anticipating plays and getting across the net to stop them, and flat out robbing people who had point-blank opportunities. The D was no better, Nabby was. We don't remember how bad the breakdowns were then because the save was made, a few cheers went up, and the play went back up the ice.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Mar 14 @ 2:05 PM ET
Eh, the D has been the same bad D all year. All year long this team has been pinned in its own zone for most of a given game, giving up good chances in front, not taking the body, and crashing into and screening its own goaltender. It's not like we sold off a bunch of good defensemen at the deadline and that has directly led to Nabby's numbers dropping. Same bad D at .914 that it was at .924, playing the same chaotic brand of defensive hockey. Nabby played out of his head for a while there...seeing pucks through traffic, anticipating plays and getting across the net to stop them, and flat out robbing people who had point-blank opportunities. The D was no better, Nabby was. We don't remember how bad the breakdowns were then because the save was made, a few cheers went up, and the play went back up the ice.
- UIF

Stat of the year: The Isles "D" regulars are a minus 82 for the season and if you subtract out the 37 points Streit has, the Isles "D" has been outscored by Erik Karlsson of Ottawa 69 points to 62. Karlsson is playing at a +15. The only Islander d-man playing at a plus is Hamonic.

This group needs to be revamped. Keep A-Mac, Streit and Hamonic and get three new bodies in here next year or else the fans can continue to expect the same sh**ty team results.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 14 @ 2:21 PM ET
okposo for heatley........
- Mike C

If I was Snow I would do it and I think Minnesota might want to get rid of that big contract. The only thing is if you're going to pay Heatly $7.5 mill a year why not spend an extra million and get Parise...
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Mar 14 @ 3:26 PM ET
If I was Snow I would do it and I think Minnesota might want to get rid of that big contract. The only thing is if you're going to pay Heatly $7.5 mill a year why not spend an extra million and get Parise...
- kear20

Because Heatley is signed to a contract and would have no choice but to report or hold out and pout. Parise is a UFA and would have to agree to come to the Isles and that's not likely to happen. No prominent UFA has signed with the Islanders since Snow has become GM.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 14 @ 3:35 PM ET
Because Heatley is signed to a contract and would have no choice but to report or hold out and pout. Parise is a UFA and would have to agree to come to the Isles and that's not likely to happen. No prominent UFA has signed with the Islanders since Snow has become GM.
- Jethro09

Agreed...but at $ 8.5 milion/per Parise might be interested...remember his dad played for the Islanders...
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Mar 14 @ 3:53 PM ET
Agreed...but at $ 8.5 milion/per Parise might be interested...remember his dad played for the Islanders...
- kear20



do you do the same thing that your dad does/did? (im gonna assume the answer is no) why should he?
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 14 @ 3:58 PM ET
do you do the same thing that your dad does/did? (im gonna assume the answer is no) why should he?
- LetsGoIsles

You need to sell him on the "great" future of the Islanders...
Killer' Carlson
New York Islanders
Location: Due Diligence, NY
Joined: 06.30.2009

Mar 14 @ 3:59 PM ET
Heatley has a NMC and that ego would NEVER say yes to this team, that is unless Wang gives him a 10 or 15 year extension

This team probably has better odds at signing Parise or trading for Nash than trading for Heatley

Isles best shot would try to work out a deal for Dustin Brown if he really is or would be available.... since after all this is the type of player KO should've become
NewYawkIslandez
New York Islanders
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 01.10.2008

Mar 14 @ 4:08 PM ET
do you do the same thing that your dad does/did? (im gonna assume the answer is no) why should he?
- LetsGoIsles

The only bargaining chip the Isles have for ZP is that ZP and Okposo best friends. Other than that, why would he want to play for us?
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