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stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 13 @ 10:56 PM ET
The real question is if Bryzgalov posts a shutout in every game for the rest of the regular season does he win the Vezina?
- keatondixon


I don't think Bryz will play ever single game the rest of the season so I would say no.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 13 @ 10:56 PM ET
Lilja has been nothing but solid in his role all Season. Quality signing by Holmgren in choosing him for the veteran 7th spot.
- MJL

he was signed to replace o'donnell's spot as a #6 guy, but he couldn't cut it- thats the reality. he's ok in a 7th dman role and it's likely that we'll really appreciate the ability to turn to a veteran in the plyoffs if we continue to have injuries. gusty has played well lately, though.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Mar 13 @ 10:56 PM ET
Funniest part was when he tried to get facts showing that Bryz is inconsistent. He got shat on by everyone
- Richieattack18


He is relatively inconsistent, but his stats didn't back him up at all. He does have a cold spell, but usually most goaltenders have one too.

Not many players in this league are consistent.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 13 @ 10:56 PM ET
and I'd gladly return the favor my friend!
- JoeRussomanno

JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 10:56 PM ET
The real question is if Bryzgalov posts a shutout in every game for the rest of the regular season does he win the Vezina?
- keatondixon

I don't see him posting a shutout but one goal or less the rest of the way isn't out of the question either. Man that would be some poop if he won the vezina this year. Even if he was a runner up again, highly unlikely though.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Mar 13 @ 10:57 PM ET
Funniest part was when he tried to get facts showing that Bryz is inconsistent. He got shat on by everyone
- Richieattack18



Yeah Zip I was definitely thinking about the other guy.

Sorry for that- that's gotta be taken as an insult right??
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:58 PM ET
Quick question guys. If Bryzgalov finishes out the season at or below his career averages, gets on a roll and takes us deep in the playoffs, is this a type of season we should be accepting for the remainder of his tenure here? I'm rather mixed about it and would like to hear some of your opinions.
- JoeRussomanno

No, I think you can expect him to be a very good goalie generally with occasional streaks of great, like lately and occasional slumpy periods, because every goalie (even King Henrik) has those. But the first half of this year was him getting used to a new situation while putting pressure on himself because of the deal he signed. IMHO.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:58 PM ET
I don't see him posting a shutout but one goal or less the rest of the way isn't out of the question either. Man that would be some poop if he won the vezina this year. Even if he was a runner up again, highly unlikely though.
- JoeRussomanno

Impossible with the first half he had.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Mar 13 @ 10:58 PM ET


Yeah Zip I was definitely thinking about the other guy.

Sorry for that- that's gotta be taken as an insult right??

- Giroux_Is_God


Yeah......
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 10:59 PM ET
Impossible with the first half he had.
- bodiva88

yea that's what I thought. Just hope Lundqvist doesn't win it because I like using that against rag fans
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 10:59 PM ET
he was signed to replace o'donnell's spot as a #6 guy, but he couldn't cut it- thats the reality. he's ok in a 7th dman role and it's likely that we'll really appreciate the ability to turn to a veteran in the plyoffs if we continue to have injuries. gusty has played well lately, though.
- isaiah520


That is absolutely not the reality. He was not signed to be a full time player. Just your spin on it. He was signed to be the team's 7th defenseman. And a veteran depth player. He has cut it, and has been cutting it all Season. Give the player his due.

Lilja hasn't played near a full NHL Season since 07/08. And Holmgren signed him to be a regular every day player? I don't think so.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 13 @ 11:00 PM ET
Okay use my words against me on Briere but whatevs (how's that for using words ) anyway yea I guess if he becomes a goalie version of Briere, what's your take then? For the record up until now I thought Briere has been a success just I wish he carried the team throughout the year more. My criticism and suggesting that if amnesty becomes a reality to use it on him is due to the possibility he is not the player he was 2-3 years ago.
- JoeRussomanno


I'd be OK if he became a goalie version of Briere. I feel he's more likely to thrive at an advanced age than Briere, too.

Danny's a small guy who is getting on in years. He's been banged up this year and his play hasn't been great.

I have faith Briere will turn it around this year...but I'm not sold he'll be as able to be effective in another year or two.
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Mar 13 @ 11:00 PM ET
I don't think Bryz will play ever single game the rest of the season so I would say no.
- stveshdy

Lavy would feel obligated to keep playing a guy who has 10 shutouts in a row ...he would definitly be a Vezina candidate but still wouldn't win it IMO
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 13 @ 11:01 PM ET
That is absolutely not the reality. He was not signed to be a full time player. Just your spin on it. He was signed to be the team's 7th defenseman. And a veteran depth player. He has cut it, and has been cutting it all Season. Give the player his due.
- MJL


When he signed I think he had the opportunity to come in and compete for the six spot but he wasnt guaranteed it.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 11:02 PM ET
I'd be OK if he became a goalie version of Briere.

Danny's a small guy who is getting on in years. He's been banged up this year and his play hasn't been great.

I have faith Briere will turn it around this year...but I'm not sold he'll be as able to be effective in another year or two.

- Jsaquella

See that's why I preach amnesty for him if it is a reality. Don't get me wrong if there was no cap I probably wouldn't be whining. Just I think we might get caught in a scott gomez situation. Hope I'm wrong.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 13 @ 11:02 PM ET
Lavy would feel obligated to keep playing a guy who has 10 shutouts in a row ...he would definitly be a Vezina candidate but still wouldn't win it IMO
- keatondixon


His early struggles will hold him back from even being considered.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 13 @ 11:02 PM ET
Impossible with the first half he had.
- bodiva88

If he would let in 2 goals or less the rest of the games this year and say posted 5 shutouts (yeah i know, unlikely ) His numbers would be tops. Don't you think?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 13 @ 11:02 PM ET
That is absolutely not the reality. He was not signed to be a full time player. Just your spin on it. He was signed to be the team's 7th defenseman. And a veteran depth player. He has cut it, and has been cutting it all Season. Give the player his due.
- MJL

who was the 6th dman last yr and who was his replacement for this yr?
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 11:03 PM ET
If he would let in 2 goals or less the rest of the games this year and say posted 5 shutouts (yeah i know, unlikely ) His numbers would be tops. Don't you think?
- Richieattack18

you're also gonna need lundy to poop the bed the rest of the way and I just don't see him being bad for that long of a stretch. Now perhaps elliot could beat him out for it? Otherwise I'd say Bryz would be a long shot.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 11:03 PM ET
When he signed I think he had the opportunity to come in and compete for the six spot but he wasnt guaranteed it.
- stveshdy


As any team would, they were going to mix in the younger players such as Gustafsson, to let them start their NHL career. Gustafsson was deemed NHL ready last year. But like in any Season injuries and setbacks happen. And you need a veteran to fill in. Lilja has done a solid job doing so.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 13 @ 11:03 PM ET
who was the 6th dman last yr and who was his replacement for this yr?
- isaiah520


Walker, Lilja, Gust, Marshall were all suppose to compete for that spot during camp.
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 13 @ 11:03 PM ET
yea that's what I thought. Just hope Lundqvist doesn't win it because I like using that against rag fans
- JoeRussomanno

Sadly, Lundqvist most likely will win it
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 11:04 PM ET
That is absolutely not the reality. He was not signed to be a full time player. Just your spin on it. He was signed to be the team's 7th defenseman. And a veteran depth player. He has cut it, and has been cutting it all Season. Give the player his due.

Lilja hasn't played near a full NHL Season since 07/08. And Holmgren signed him to be a regular every day player? I don't think so.

- MJL

Then who was supposed to be the 6th dman then?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 11:04 PM ET
who was the 6th dman last yr and who was his replacement for this yr?
- isaiah520


O'Donnell was last year. That doesn't mean Lilja was signed to replace O'Donnell. And he wasn't. The Flyers had plans to work the young players such as Gustafsson in the mix.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 13 @ 11:05 PM ET
As any team would, they were going to mix in the younger players such as Gustafsson, to let them start their NHL career. Gustafsson was deemed NHL ready last year. But like in any Season injuries and setbacks happen. And you need a veteran to fill in. Lilja has done a solid job doing so.
- MJL


I agree with you. Lilja is a depth defenseman. I dont think the Flyers said your going to be our number six. They gave him the opportunity to compete for the spot.
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