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JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Mar 13 @ 8:43 PM ET
Ours is very bad under pressure.

There's usually no pass there. They are very very predictable. Flyers are playing very well but they look much better than they actually do because of how predictable the Devils are. Hartnell made at least four plays where he waited on the boards for a player to pass it because it was obvious that was his only outlet. Yet, that was just because that's all the Flyers gave them.

- _Zippy_

If you devils fans keep this up we might have to adopt you. Don't say we didn't tell you so.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Mar 13 @ 8:43 PM ET
Hartnell doesn't get away with much at all ... he so much as goes near an opposing goalie he gets called for interference ... he is watched big time! ... if he was dirty he would be suspended quite often.
- Cable2k


It's not going into like Matt Cooke dirty.

It's petty stuff he does. For an analogy, he is not going in and burglarizing a bank, he is stealing poop little by little from a grocery store. Stuff like that. It's just little poop that he does. Usually, he's not going to get penalized for it, but it's still dirty.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 13 @ 8:43 PM ET
A few thoughts.

Bryz looks amazing and I've always had faith that he'd come around but winning close games like this one can't last forever. Especially not against such teams as the New Jersey Devils who know how to come through in tight games, which a solid defensive philosophy. The Flyers really need to push as hard as they possibly can in this 3rd period and over come against tough goalies such as Brodeur, Thomas and Lunqvist.

Looking at the names on the first PP unit and comparing the names on the second, I'm a little disappointed in the direction that Peter Laviolette chooses to go in. I love our roster but facts are facts. Jake Voracek doesn't have a PP goal this season and doesn't look dangerous on the right side of the Umbrella. I love what Voracek brings 5 on 5 but he doesn't even look included as Giroux and Timonen play catch most nights. One game after his injury he was replaced by Sehenn and Schenn scored. I also have to ask the question of how Briere is suppose to get out of his most recent slump and earn that contract if he isn't in a position to succeed. At the start of the season I saw an even balance on both PP units but now I no longer do. Jagr in my mind hasn't looked overly impressive 5 on 5 as the season goes on but I feel he can only benefit from the PP time he should be receiving.

- Schenn2shine


this.

lost draws, slow decision making/puck movement, poor passing, no rotation. did i miss anything?

bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Mar 13 @ 8:43 PM ET
We'll have to agree to disagree. Like MJL said, he's just a hard nosed competitor.
- BulliesPhan87

Hard Nosed.... BOOM
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 13 @ 8:43 PM ET
Hate watching on MSG+
nyy
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 13 @ 8:44 PM ET
Hartnell doesn't get away with much at all ... he so much as goes near an opposing goalie he gets called for interference ... he is watched big time! ... if he was dirty he would be suspended quite often.
- Cable2k

Not trying to stir the pot, but he does get away with stuff all the time

This is just one example I could find.



Should have been a suspension, but he only got 2 minutes.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 13 @ 8:44 PM ET
Don't want to be that guy, but I just want you to watch the third period. He will do a lot of poop like make a hit he doesn't need to make, slash a defender when he loses the puck, little poop like that. He has really worked out his game this year, but way too often do I see him get dirty, this year at least.
- _Zippy_


We've watched him for years. Does he cross the line at times? Sure. Every team in the NHL has a guy that does, to some extent. Honestly, he's a lot like Claude Lemieux was in his prime.

bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Mar 13 @ 8:44 PM ET
this.

lost draws, slow decision making/puck movement, poor passing, no rotation. did i miss anything?

- hammarby31

nope, got it
Schenn2shine
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.26.2011

Mar 13 @ 8:44 PM ET
The Flyers are a top 5 PP in the League. And lead the NHL in 5 on 4 goals. The PP has been consistent all year. Voracek normally moves the puck well and sets it up on the rush. There is more to PP success then just scoring the goals.
- MJL

We can also improve in key areas and I feel this one is it. I feel we're leaning hard on some players on not enough on others.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Mar 13 @ 8:44 PM ET
I appreciate the breakdown but I'm still having trouble interpreting the dirty play from what you observed.
- JoeRussomanno


http://youtu.be/wrV3WnJPGNk

Don't want to post the video up embedded, but that kind of poop. He does petty poop that's not necessary.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 8:44 PM ET
Ours is very bad under pressure.

There's usually no pass there. They are very very predictable. Flyers are playing very well but they look much better than they actually do because of how predictable the Devils are. Hartnell made at least four plays where he waited on the boards for a player to pass it because it was obvious that was his only outlet. Yet, that was just because that's all the Flyers gave them.

- _Zippy_


That's the game. There are no magical breakouts. Every team pretty much does the same thing. Look at the game on Sunday. Completely different. Devils played the same system. It has nothing to do with predictability. It's still a 1-0 game.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 13 @ 8:44 PM ET
You are safe...but #23's gonna wish he had returned my copy of Slap Shot
- Jsaquella


I'd like to believe you, but I think I'll keep the Winchester handy anyway.
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Mar 13 @ 8:45 PM ET
Hate watching on MSG+
- Philly1980




Don't you love Chico.
nyy
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 13 @ 8:46 PM ET
Hate watching on MSG+
- Philly1980

Don't you mean MSG++++

And yeah, you have to tune Chico out.
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Mar 13 @ 8:47 PM ET
Welcome back Jake. Nice play by Danny
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 13 @ 8:47 PM ET
good work, mr. briere. good work.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 13 @ 8:47 PM ET
Welcome Back Jake
_Zippy_
New Jersey Devils
Location: Threw one in front blocked the, NJ
Joined: 01.26.2012

Mar 13 @ 8:47 PM ET
How well did our predictable breakout work there.

It's pitiful under pressure, that's what I've been saying this whole time.

No pressure Sunday, Devils played well. A lot of pressure today, the Devils play like poop.
NJFlyersFan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: North Jersey
Joined: 03.02.2010

Mar 13 @ 8:48 PM ET
Jake Kovalchek scores!
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 13 @ 8:48 PM ET
We need a better goal scoring song
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 13 @ 8:48 PM ET


Don't you love Chico.

- _Zippy_


not in that uniform.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Mar 13 @ 8:48 PM ET
Not trying to stir the pot, but he does get away with stuff all the time

This is just one example I could find.



Should have been a suspension, but he only got 2 minutes.

- nyy

prob said something about Hartnells mom, totally had it comming
Richieattack18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Girouxsalem
Joined: 07.13.2010

Mar 13 @ 8:48 PM ET
I know that, but Hartnell totally faked that one. Poni only like nudged him, Hartnell more or less elbowed himself in the face.
- _Zippy_

EAT IT CRYBABY
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 13 @ 8:48 PM ET
I'd like to believe you, but I think I'll keep the Winchester handy anyway.
- tangent_man


I'm strangely mellow tonight. Haven't even yelled at the kids
nyy
Joined: 07.03.2007

Mar 13 @ 8:49 PM ET
prob said something about Hartnells mom, totally had it comming
- bigmookalookie

Well if she looks anything like him, can you blame the the Devils?
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