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ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Mar 13 @ 2:40 PM ET
Now that Gagner has come down to earth I think we should trade him dubnyk and our 2013 1st for Coyle Harding and their first this year. I'm not convinced Harding is an improvement from dubbie but it's a change. We add a big winger and another top ten pick. Minnie gets a good second liner in gags to go behind koivu and they take on the risk of where our 2013 first lands. We take on the risk of coyle and whether he pans out or not. I'd throw in a 3rd rounder this year as well if need be.

kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Mar 13 @ 2:56 PM ET
Now that Gagner has come down to earth I think we should trade him dubnyk and our 2013 1st for Coyle Harding and their first this year. I'm not convinced Harding is an improvement from dubbie but it's a change. We add a big winger and another top ten pick. Minnie gets a good second liner in gags to go behind koivu and they take on the risk of where our 2013 first lands. We take on the risk of coyle and whether he pans out or not. I'd throw in a 3rd rounder this year as well if need be.
- ystoil


That is an atrocious trade. Dubnyk is a serviceable backup, Harding is a UFA and can be had for nothing if he chooses to sign here, but there is no guarantees he will pan out as a #1 goaltender. Coyle is completely unproven and Gagner is a young solid #2 center. Next year's pick is a toss up but really, is this team looking alot better for next year? If Tambellini makes this trade he should be fired and sent to Siberia.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Mar 13 @ 2:57 PM ET
Is it really that hard to believe that a guy Clowes size isn't that fleet of foot?
- Zombie

Ben Eager types are not common.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Mar 13 @ 2:59 PM ET
That is an atrocious trade. Dubnyk is a serviceable backup, Harding is a UFA and can be had for nothing if he chooses to sign here, but there is no guarantees he will pan out as a #1 goaltender. Coyle is completely unproven and Gagner is a young solid #2 center. Next year's pick is a toss up but really, is this team looking alot better for next year? If Tambellini makes this trade he should be fired and sent to Siberia.
- kingbrehm


My bad on Harding, didnt know he was ufa
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Mar 13 @ 3:00 PM ET
"he's gone bananas"

- BoringBob69


I wish Big Mac had been given the freedom to do this when he was an Oiler.
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Mar 13 @ 3:01 PM ET
My bad on Harding, didnt know he was ufa
- ystoil


Looking at it again I'd be all over a Gagner + 2013 first rounder for Coyle and 2012 first rounder. It forces Tambellini to make some signings July 1 to make this a playoff team.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Mar 13 @ 3:46 PM ET
How many think that the hit Yakupov took that will leave him out for some time going to affect the draft now?
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Mar 13 @ 3:51 PM ET
How many think that the hit Yakupov took that will leave him out for some time going to affect the draft now?
- saskoil21

I don't know to be honest, but I think that if someone steps up like Huberdeau did last year that Yakupov could fall.
BoringBob69
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 09.12.2011

Mar 13 @ 4:42 PM ET
I wish Big Mac had been given the freedom to do this when he was an Oiler.
- kingbrehm

If only he did that stuff when we played against calgary. I loved it when he sh!t kicked ivanans though
BoringBob69
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 09.12.2011

Mar 13 @ 4:43 PM ET
Now that Gagner has come down to earth I think we should trade him dubnyk and our 2013 1st for Coyle Harding and their first this year. I'm not convinced Harding is an improvement from dubbie but it's a change. We add a big winger and another top ten pick. Minnie gets a good second liner in gags to go behind koivu and they take on the risk of where our 2013 first lands. We take on the risk of coyle and whether he pans out or not. I'd throw in a 3rd rounder this year as well if need be.
- ystoil

Why would we trade him when he came back down to earth? If tambellini wanted to trade him it would have been just after the 8 point night when his value was at its peak.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:48 PM ET
If only he did that stuff when we played against calgary. I loved it when he sh!t kicked ivanans though
- BoringBob69

almost as much as this one?
http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/87821
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Mar 13 @ 4:53 PM ET
almost as much as this one?
http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/87821

- geta02it

Difference being Mac got up and played again. Ivanas is still trying to figure out where the poop stain came from.
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Mar 13 @ 4:55 PM ET
If only he did that stuff when we played against calgary. I loved it when he sh!t kicked ivanans though
- BoringBob69


I wish he just went (frank)ing ape poop a few times last year. Would have made the games at least a bit more exciting. I still want to see Peckham get 4th line LW ass pummel duty.
BoringBob69
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 09.12.2011

Mar 13 @ 5:00 PM ET
almost as much as this one?
http://www.hockeyfights.com/fights/87821

- geta02it

That fight is nothing compared to mac vs ivanans. The sh!t kicking of ivanans resulted in him being done for the season.


Tell me how the playoffs go, will ya.
BoringBob69
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 09.12.2011

Mar 13 @ 5:02 PM ET
I wish he just went (frank)ing ape poop a few times last year. Would have made the games at least a bit more exciting. I still want to see Peckham get 4th line LW ass pummel duty.
- kingbrehm

I agree. If we are going to lose games we should at least make it interesting by sending out plugs to go ape tit.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 13 @ 5:03 PM ET
Difference being Mac got up and played again. Ivanas is still trying to figure out where the poop stain came from.
- Lahey

amongst other things...
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 13 @ 5:05 PM ET
That fight is nothing compared to mac vs ivanans. The sh!t kicking of ivanans resulted in him being done for the season.


Tell me how the playoffs go, will ya.

- BoringBob69

I would love to but i honestly think we won't be there...
BoringBob69
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 09.12.2011

Mar 13 @ 5:09 PM ET
I would love to but i honestly think we won't be there...
- geta02it

The odds are definetly against you guys. No matter what it'll be interesting.
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 13 @ 5:14 PM ET
The odds are definetly against you guys. No matter what it'll be interesting.
- BoringBob69

win tonight and beat the Yotes and maybe, just maybe, I'll have a bit more faith...
BoringBob69
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 09.12.2011

Mar 13 @ 5:30 PM ET
win tonight and beat the Yotes and maybe, just maybe, I'll have a bit more faith...
- geta02it

Tonight is a very important game. I think san jose has 15 games left and the flames have 12, so beating the sharks tonight could be the difference maker
andymaury
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.08.2010

Mar 13 @ 5:39 PM ET
I don't know to be honest, but I think that if someone steps up like Huberdeau did last year that Yakupov could fall.
- Lahey

Raska?
geta02it
Calgary Flames
Location: AB
Joined: 11.10.2007

Mar 13 @ 5:40 PM ET
Tonight is a very important game. I think san jose has 15 games left and the flames have 12, so beating the sharks tonight could be the difference maker
- BoringBob69

we've played one more than them... Avs have 12 remaining i believe.
BoringBob69
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 09.12.2011

Mar 13 @ 5:43 PM ET
we've played one more than them... Avs have 12 remaining i believe.
- geta02it

Oh my bad
dragonslade
Edmonton Oilers
Location: St. Paul, AB
Joined: 11.07.2010

Mar 13 @ 6:10 PM ET
How many think that the hit Yakupov took that will leave him out for some time going to affect the draft now?
- saskoil21

I don't think so. Galchenyuk has been out all year, still considered a top 5 pick. Plus Yakupov is gonna be back for playoffs from what I heard.

Someone will have to go on a run like Huberdeau to even make a discussion of it, as of now Yak is #1.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Mar 13 @ 6:29 PM ET
Why would we trade him when he came back down to earth? If tambellini wanted to trade him it would have been just after the 8 point night when his value was at its peak.
- BoringBob69


Well he had a good hot streak going and maybe he felt he wa more valuable to us and could possibly be breaking out, he is only 22. But it was really just a hot streak and I don't think it's indicative of what's to come. If they thought he was emerging as a 60 point guy then ya keep him. My take on it is he is still a 45-50 point centre man which is still good for second line don't get me wrong. I just think he needs to play with shooters not two passers like Omark an hemsky. Minnie has some shooters that may wrk well with him hence the trade proposal. We would get a possible big scoring winger and another top ten pick to maybe get faksa who is close to NHL ready at 6 3 200 pounds.
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