If their is a rift in the room that has the kids and the coach vs. the vets. Then perhaps management has to stick with the kids and the coach. This team is being built around Hall, Ebs, RNH and to a lesser extent Gagner. If they like the coaching and the coaching is good with them but the vets who will be gone in 1- years have an issue, then the solution is easy. Bye bye Smyth, Horcs, Hemmer, Jones, Belanger. Buy outs, and 7th round picks for all.

Don't get me wrong, Smyth has been a great warrior for the Oilers and his experience could help the kids. But Hall, Ebs and RNH seem to get it and don't need their hands held. Horcoff was alright once, got paid and hasn't been good since. Poor leadership leads to a poor team. Hemsky is very talented. But if his attitude has soured because a younger player who has outplayed him at every aspect is receiving the much deserved credit, well either suck it up or ship out. Jones, a dime a dozen. There are hundreds of players who can play 3rd line minutes. Some of them are even grittier. Belanger, thanks for the faceoffs, but outside of that you have been
irrevelant.

It's the youth that matters, not the players on their last legs who are basically playing out a contract.
- Ben37

In defence of Renney he has always been known as an excellent teaching coach. The vets are never going to like him but the kids will appreciate they can achieve under his tutelage.

Well he had a good hot streak going and maybe he felt he wa more valuable to us and could possibly be breaking out, he is only 22. But it was really just a hot streak and I don't think it's indicative of what's to come. If they thought he was emerging as a 60 point guy then ya keep him. My take on it is he is still a 45-50 point centre man which is still good for second line don't get me wrong. I just think he needs to play with shooters not two passers like Omark an hemsky. Minnie has some shooters that may wrk well with him hence the trade proposal. We would get a possible big scoring winger and another top ten pick to maybe get faksa who is close to NHL ready at 6 3 200 pounds.
- ystoil

I where you're coming from but who would play second line center?

Oilers better play like a team tonight or the mustard will hit the fan.

I where you're coming from but who would play second line center?
- BoringBob69

Edit: Well if they draft Galchenyuk this year they can deal Gagner along with the 2013 1st for a top 2 dman.

Oilers better play like a team tomorrow or the mustard will hit the fan.
- The_Hinter

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Galchenyuk
- Oil Tycoon

(frank) galchenyuk! We need a defenseman

Well if they draft Galchenyuk this year they can deal Gagner along with the 2013 1st for a top 2 dman.
- Oil Tycoon[/]
Do you know what the free agent market will be like for centers?

(frank) galchenyuk! We need a defenseman
- BoringBob69

We need a NHL ready defenseman not one that's 3 years away from contributing. Forwards in the top 5 usually have a greater impact earlier in there career so why not trade Gagner and an asset for some one ready to step in and contribute.

[quote=Oil Tycoon]Well if they draft Galchenyuk this year they can deal Gagner along with the 2013 1st for a top 2 dman.
- BoringBob69[/]
Do you know what the free agent market will be like for centers?

Do you know what the free agent market will be like for centers?

Do you know what the free agent market will be like for centers?
- BoringBob69

There are no top six center's on the market this year that would fit into the Oilers rebuild the best way to acquire a top 6 center IMO is to draft one.

There are no top six center's on the market this year that fit into the Oilers rebuild the best way to acquire a top 6 center IMO is to draft one.
- Oil Tycoon

Crosby's contract expires at the end of next season doesnt it?

Crosby's contract expires at the end of next season doesnt it?
- BoringBob69

Depends if he is still playing hockey at the end of next season. Here are this years upcoming UFA center's.




Player 2011-12 Team 11-12 Cap Hit Contract Notes
Daymond Langkow Phoenix Coyotes $4,500,000
Tuomo Ruutu Carolina Hurricanes $3,800,000 Re-signed with the Hurricanes. 4 years, $19 million.
Jarret Stoll Los Angeles Kings $3,600,000
Jochen Hecht Buffalo Sabres $3,525,000
Olli Jokinen Calgary Flames $3,000,000
Mikhail Grabovski Toronto Maple Leafs $2,900,000 Re-signed with Leafs. 5 years, $27.5 million
Jiri Hudler Detroit Red Wings $2,875,000
Jason Arnott St. Louis Blues $2,800,000
Samuel Pahlsson Columbus Blue Jackets $2,650,000
Saku Koivu Anaheim Ducks $2,500,000
Paul Gaustad Buffalo Sabres $2,300,000

Depends if he is still playing hockey at the end of next season. Here are this years upcoming UFA center's.




Player 2011-12 Team 11-12 Cap Hit Contract Notes
Daymond Langkow Phoenix Coyotes $4,500,000
Tuomo Ruutu Carolina Hurricanes $3,800,000 Re-signed with the Hurricanes. 4 years, $19 million.
Jarret Stoll Los Angeles Kings $3,600,000
Jochen Hecht Buffalo Sabres $3,525,000
Olli Jokinen Calgary Flames $3,000,000
Mikhail Grabovski Toronto Maple Leafs $2,900,000 Re-signed with Leafs. 5 years, $27.5 million
Jiri Hudler Detroit Red Wings $2,875,000
Jason Arnott St. Louis Blues $2,800,000
Samuel Pahlsson Columbus Blue Jackets $2,650,000
Saku Koivu Anaheim Ducks $2,500,000
Paul Gaustad Buffalo Sabres $2,300,000
- Oil Tycoon

(frank) I dont even know what I would like the oilers to do

(frank) I dont even know what I would like the oilers to do
- BoringBob69

We will see what Galchenyuk dose for the rest of the season and the playoffs, hopefully he plays his ass off and we take him. I like Murray, but I dont think he will help us for another year or two.

We will see what Galchenyuk dose for the rest of the season and the playoffs, hopefully he plays his ass off and we take him. I like Murray, but I dont think he will help us for another year or two.
- FiretheGM

We need to take the BPA, not the most NHL ready. From what peeps are saying, Ryan Murray is ready for the NHL.

We need to take the BPA, not the most NHL ready. From what peeps are saying, Ryan Murray is ready for the NHL.
- LoveGun

Then were taking Grigorenko, and I dont know about him. I have a really bad feeling about him. I hope Galchenyuk plays his ass off and rips it up like Huberdeau did last year. Long shot I know, but I am hoping.

Heavy stuff. Bit of a shakeup might not be a bad idea don't call it a blow up though. Still going to be an interesting summer. I'm officially on the trade the draft pick for Carlson train. Anyone else wanna jump on?
- freelancer

Jump on? Jump ON , I've been pulling this cart for a while now.

Then were taking Grigorenko, and I dont know about him. I have a really bad feeling about him. I hope Galchenyuk plays his ass off and rips it up like Huberdeau did last year. Long shot I know, but I am hoping.
- FiretheGM

Grigorenko won't be the BPA. He's this seasons Couturier.

Grigorenko won't be the BPA. He's this seasons Couturier.
- LoveGun

He wont fall from number 2. He will go number 3 if the Oilers dont take him. He is the 2nd best player in the draft.

Edit: Forsberg is this year Couturier.

He wont fall from number 2. He will go number 3 if the Oilers dont take him. He is the 2nd best player in the draft.

Edit: Forsberg is this year Couturier.
- FiretheGM

Grigs will be a Hab, they love Russians.

Grigs will be a Hab, they love Russians.
- LoveGun

Not if the Oilers take him. ahaha

Not if the Oilers take him. ahaha
- FiretheGM

Ryan Murray

Ryan Murray
- LoveGun

Maybe, Oilers might like to be deep at Center like Det, and Pit and grab another number 1 Center.

Then were taking Grigorenko, and I dont know about him. I have a really bad feeling about him. I hope Galchenyuk plays his ass off and rips it up like Huberdeau did last year. Long shot I know, but I am hoping.
- FiretheGM

I dont want grigs because of his work ethic issues. Does galchenyuk have size?

I dont want grigs because of his work ethic issues. Does galchenyuk have size?
- BoringBob69

His 6.2 I think hes the second best player in the draft but because he got injured for the whole season he wont go 2nd overall, unless he just turns on the after jets in the playoffs and carrys the stings to a cup, but we will see.