If you could get Schenn and the 3rd to 5th pick (where T.O. is heading) for our #2 pick and Paajarvi, would you do it? That would be a deal to make.
- bazmagoo

Short answer is no.

Because of the big 3 being our best players so quickly, too many people jumped on his back too quickly.
Not everyone develops at the same pace.

Regardless of the struggles, i still think prv is going to be an impact player for us at some point.
Hes just got too many tools at his disposal to give up on him anytime soon.
His size and skating can make our top 6 so much more effective and lethal if he can put it all together.

For me it would have to involve an elite goalie/defenceman to deal prv in a package.

Short answer is no.

Not every kid develops the same. Because of the big 3 being our best players so quickly, too many people jumped on his back too quickly.

Not everyone develops at the same pace.
Regardless of the struggles, i still think prv is going to be an impact player for us at some point.
Hes just got too many tools at his disposal to give up on him anytime soon.
His size and skating can make our top 6 so much more effective and lethal if he can put it all together.

For me it would have to involve an elite goalie/defenceman to deal prv in a package.
- hugefemale dog77

You make a good point, and I'd have to agree. Adding Paajarvi to that deal would be an over payment. Just can't think of anyone else that would make sense.

Let's say T.O. gets the 5th pick, and added Schenn to a deal for our #2 pick +. What could we add to make that a deal? I think we'd have to add something.

You make a good point, and I'd have to agree. Adding Paajarvi to that deal would be an over payment. Just can't think of anyone else that would make sense.

Let's say T.O. gets the 5th pick, and added Schenn to a deal for our #2 pick +. What could we add to make that a deal? I think we'd have to add something.
- bazmagoo

Burke doesnt generally get ripped off so i dunno.
He likes mean dudes who are tough to play against..
Maybe sutton and the 31st?

We get schenn and maybe dumba
For
Grigorenko, sutton and 31?

Burke doesnt generally get ripped off so i dunno.
He likes mean dudes who are tough to play against..
Maybe sutton and the 31st?

We get schenn and maybe dumba
For
Grigorenko, sutton and 31?
- hugefemale dog77

You mean 32?


That would be a start, but I don't think Sutton gets it done.

You mean 32nd?

- bazmagoo

Yeah.
My bad.

Id be willing to deal a number of prospects, im just not down to deal prv.

Yeah.
My bad
- hugefemale dog77

It's hard to get used too, we aren't the worst! Haha

It's hard to get used too, we aren't the worst! Haha
- bazmagoo

Lets not count our chickens just yet!!

We both know the incredibly brutal hockey this team is capable of!

Lets not count our chickens just yet!!

We both know the incredibly brutal hockey this team is capable of!
- hugefemale dog77

I actually think the Oilers have been quite a bit better than the last 2 years. If you look at our goal differential, we are actually only 1 worse than Florida who sit in 3rd in the east. We are better than:

Tampa
NYI
Columbus
Minnesota
tied with Carolina at -26

We just need to find consistency, which will come over the next couple of years, hopefully.

No way we finish behind Columbus!

Our #2 pick, #32, and Linus Omark to T.O. for Luke Schenn and the #5 pick.

As an Oilers fan, I'd do it.

Our #2 pick, #32, and Linus Omark to T.O. for Luke Schenn and the #5 pick.

As an Oilers fan, I'd do it.
- bazmagoo

Id absolutely do it.
Omarks potential might be high and his value may be higher than suttons, but id actually prefer to deal him before sutton.

I just dont see a place for omark here.
Another small, talented, but streaky and largely ineffective winger thats not as good as our top 2 line wingers anyway

Our #2 pick, #32, and Linus Omark to T.O. for Luke Schenn and the #5 pick.

As an Oilers fan, I'd do it.
- bazmagoo

Leaf fans proposed Schenn and their 1st for the Oilers 1st.



Schenn blows.

pretty good Richard. I have a couple small problems with your thinking, but if that went 100%, sure be a bit happier as a Oiler fan.

We are not sure about Omark yet, I think his play the next few games will set weather he is traded or not.

my target to trade though would be Sammy. I suspect we will find out oh... just before the draft if that happens, because we do need a moose at center. Belanger is expendable, and I think if Omark doesn't go, then MPS may be waived around to see who bites hard. We are stuck with Khabby.

We also have a very good second rounder there, so package that with MPS could get us a very good 1st rounder back, and you can get that defenseman.

CBJ has been playing very well, and we play them twice, so we may end up 1st overall pick again this year. If you throw Gags, MPS and the second rd pick, think CBJ may bite at that one? They are looking for help now, not adding prospects, while we as Oiler fans just like to suffer more.
- shvmr

Take out the second rounder, put in your second overall pick, and add a good prospect and maybe Columbus thinks about it. Teams don't really trade first overall picks, especially when they are getting no guaranteed star assets back.

What about going after one of the Blues goalies. I assume they will keep Halak, and that Elliot might be available. It might cost quite a bit, but I woudl at least make a call. Stl Louis doesn't have the greatest high end skill, expecially down the middle, so maybe you could trade them Gagner, Pajaarvi, and a pick for Elliot and a winger like Stewart who seems to have fallen out of favor with Hich.

Lets say the pick is a second or your 2013 first. You then use your 2012 first on a big center, or move down as many of you are suggesting and grab Faska or Galychenuk, and maybe get a young defender like McBain while your at it.

2013 Roster looks like:

Hall - RNH - Stewart
Eberle - Galychenuk - Hemsky
Smyth - Horcoff - Jones
Eager - Lander - Petrall

Smid - Petry
Whitney - Schultz
Mcbain - Sutton

Elliot

Thoughts? The issue of course is determining the value of Elliot and Stewart.

How generous of you
- abware

I don't see Schenn as "On the Block".

I do see that Franson and Gunnarson are very comparable statistically but Franson has done it in less time and less games.

I think that swapping the picks with Franson added on thier end is not going to fly, Burke is just too tight at times, but adding a player like Pecks (work in progress grinder type Dman for the lower parings) would make it a go.

Plus we have alot of Dmen on the roster as it is....we need to move some.

Thoughts? The issue of course is determining the value of Elliot and Stewart.
- Ragingpikey

I don't rate Stewart as a Top 3 Winger. Middle 6 at best.

I don't drop Ebs to second line...he Nuge and Hall are too good together.

I don't wish to trade PRV...seriously he needs to be placed in the Top 6 and left there. He has the skill and size but has ever only been put on the bottom 6 with play killers like Horc and Belanger. Get him time with Hemmer (whom he seemed to be gaining a chemistry with) and Gags.

Elliot? WildCard. Does he continue with his performance from tghis year and 2 years ago? Or does he falter behind a shaky D and produce numbers like last year. I can like Elliot if Tambi makes some serious moves to improve the defense.

Leaf fans proposed Schenn and their 1st for the Oilers 1st.



Schenn blows.
- robin_steele264

The thing about that is that he is better than Sutton, Petry, Barker, Peckham and Potter.

The thing about that is that he is better than Sutton, Petry, Barker, Peckham and Potter.
- Ben37

I don't know about Petry. Also Schenn makes a lot more than most those guys. I take Schenn no doubt about that, but lets keep in mind that he has had his own issues.

I wonder what it would take to get another top ten pick. Like Anaheim you'd think might be willing to make a trade, they shouldn't be as bad as they are. Maybe something like
To Anaheim:
Omark
Peckham
Edmonton 2nd rounder
To Edm:
Anaheim first
Then the draft could go something like this:
Columbus - Yakupov
Edmonton - Murray
Montreal - Grigorenko
Carolina - Forsberg
NYI - Dumba
So here is where it gets tricky. We have to hope Minnesota decides to take a defenseman though Galchenyuk is hard to pass up, if they do take him we draft Faska at 7 either way we get a quality center with size as well as a high end D prospect.

I wonder what it would take to get another top ten pick. Like Anaheim you'd think might be willing to make a trade, they shouldn't be as bad as they are. Maybe something like
To Anaheim:
Omark
Peckham
Edmonton 2nd rounder
To Edm:
Anaheim first
Then the draft could go something like this:
Columbus - Yakupov
Edmonton - Murray
Montreal - Grigorenko
Carolina - Forsberg
NYI - Dumba
So here is where it gets tricky. We have to hope Minnesota decides to take a defenseman though Galchenyuk is hard to pass up, if they do take him we draft Faska at 7 either way we get a quality center with size as well as a high end D prospect.
- ALEDDO

Tough to say right now, but if you can get another top 10 I don't know that you want it. The draft was once really deep, now not so much. If teams start tossing around the #5-10 picks one has to really wonder just how deep it is.

- Draft Murray
- Grab a D-man through free agency
- Have Katz and Rexall create a goalie
- Feed a couple of our guys steroids, so we're bigger... I'm sure Katz could easily supply roids all things considered...
- laughs2907

I think he is on to something tho'

I don't agree with the draft Reinhart @ spot 5, but spot 7 is not out of reach for Reinhart.

Trading with a team in the right spot, say Tdot, for one of their Dmen and a swap of 1st round picks.

The Oil get an immediate Dman to step in and get to pick what has been said is one of the more physically ready D-men in the draft.

There is still the option of a UFA signing to deepen the ranks so as not to force the draftee into a situation where he is not as ready as thought.
- OilHorse

Burke won't move up in the draft to pick a russian.

Pretty good discussion here so far. Let's see what Blazin Hazen has to say about this...


- laughs2907

It's a white version of Pilgor.

I don't know about Petry. Also Schenn makes a lot more than most those guys. I take Schenn no doubt about that, but lets keep in mind that he has had his own issues.
- Lahey

To me it's similar to Sam Gagner. He's 22 years old and still learning.

I wouldn't be too eager to trade down.

Lots of peopel talked of trading down last year (myself included) because we kept hearing that it was a weak draft and alot of the players at the top were interchangable.

Now I'm happy we have RNH rather then say Cowan + Zibanajad or Hamonic + Strome

I wouldn't be too eager to trade down.

Lots of peopel talked of trading down last year (myself included) because we kept hearing that it was a weak draft and alot of the players at the top were interchangable.

Now I'm happy we have RNH rather then say Cowan + Zibanajad or Hamonic + Strome
- Zombie

I rather wait until Junior hockey and the lottery draft are done to get too worried about the pick. We are ending up anywhere from 1-3, but who is this year's Huberdeau and who is this year's Couturier? Lots can happen.