If this team is still floundering like this 2 years from now, and JT doesn't ask for a trade or demand some changes, then he's not as competitive as we all think.
If anyone thinks he wants to have fun on a LOSING team for a vast majority of his career, then you're high on something.
I'm so sick of the crap. They are not making the playoffs, anyone who thinks otherwise, take a breath, relax and do whatever you call fun. If you do watch, take the positives out of the game, don't care about the results at this point.
- potvin05

I agree. If JT does want out in a year or two I would not blame him at all.

We chatted for a long time. I'll give you the answers right now.
1) Because he believes in the rebuild and it's progression and two because so does the owner.
2) JT is happy where he is. If the day comes that he "demands" things that are unrealistic for the franchise, then they will be dealt with at the time.
3) No. GMs don't make a team competitive, the talent does. the talent is young, they're developing. And they will.
- Dee Karl

1) I don't and most of his fanbase doesn't because its showed no progression, they can't even slip into the eight spot.
2) I doubt JT is happy where he is. How could he be? What is there to be happy about? Horrible coach, team that doesnt compete, reluctant fanbase
3) Whether a team is competitve falls on the GM's and coach's shoulders. This is their team and they took the job of icing a competitive team to sell tickets. Stupid comment

I agree. If JT does want out in a year or two I would not blame him at all.
- ses111

If we are we are now a year from now you can book it and I would not blame him in the least

Also, as I sidenote, I have someething else to tell you.
yesterday I tweeted out a question as to Whose fault is it? Jack's or the players. I had an overwhelming response to the Q.

I copied and printed out every single one, including those that said the GM was at fault too.

He read them all. Every last one. And that was before he answered my questions.

Are the questions soft? Those on the tape, perhaps. But if you think my asking the "tough" questions is going to get us anywhere, you're mistaken.

The best thing I can do is continue to be a "fan advocate." I'm letting him know how the fanbase feels and what their concerns are.

Sorry... that's the best I can do.
- Dee Karl

I appreiate it Dee but you aren't letting him know how the fan base feels. Dont take credit for that when it isnt reality due to the fact you can't ask him "tough" questions bcs you're worried about screwing with Snows ego. The guy isnt doing his job and that who most of the fan base feels

If we are we are now a year from now you can book it and I would not blame him in the least
- Cptmjl

Check your PMs

Yes I did.

Wang's not an bumhole. bumholes don't become millionaires.

There aren't that many high caliber D men out there. Do you want to trade JT for one? No.

And while the comments did look like a witch-hunt against Jack, if Nolan wasn't the one, (and he wasn't) and Gordon wasn't the one, and Cappy's not the one... who is? It's the men in the locker room. They have to LEARN how to win. You can't keep changing the coach every time the team loses.

But that said... IF and that's a big IF... Capuano doesn't return, I'd say look to Thompson before you look to some other big name coach ... who was also fired by some other NHL team. Think of that. Every big name coach out there was fired by another club. That says something.
- Dee Karl

These are the most ridicuolous answers to questions I've seen I think? "Bumholes don't become millionares"? What about Dolan? Is there a special clause for him? Seriously, stop writing and go bake a cake or somethig.

The kool-aide is good. It mixes well with vodka. I've been accused of drinking it for years. but it's okay....

It's "FAN-AIDE" and you know what? I like it.
- Dee Karl

No! YOU ARE DRINKING IT!

A busy GM? What has Garth done that makes him so busy? If it's running away from making trades or making tough decisions I guess he has been busy in that regard.
- ses111

This

These are the most ridicuolous answers to questions I've seen I think? "Bumholes don't become millionares"? What about Dolan? Is there a special clause for him? Seriously, stop writing and go bake a cake or somethig.
- Cptmjl

The poster called Wang a "bumhole OWNER" which he clearly is.

Taking into account that his former business partner is getting 3 hots and a cot and CA is floundering big time, the business end of it could be called into question too.

Maybe Snow really is that smart. He is getting paid to do nothing. He gets no results and never has to answer for it.
- ses111

Youi might be on to something? Why don't we ask Dee to bring it up in her next Q and A with Garth?

The poster called Wang a "bumhole OWNER" which he clearly is.

Taking into account that his former business partner is getting 3 hots and a cot and CA is floundering big time, the business end of it could be called into question too.
- potvin05

I got tht I was commenting on Dee saying there arent any "bumhole millionares!" lmao

Yes I did.

Wang's not an bumhole. bumholes don't become millionaires.

There aren't that many high caliber D men out there. Do you want to trade JT for one? No.

And while the comments did look like a witch-hunt against Jack, if Nolan wasn't the one, (and he wasn't) and Gordon wasn't the one, and Cappy's not the one... who is? It's the men in the locker room. They have to LEARN how to win. You can't keep changing the coach every time the team loses.

But that said... IF and that's a big IF... Capuano doesn't return, I'd say look to Thompson before you look to some other big name coach ... who was also fired by some other NHL team. Think of that. Every big name coach out there was fired by another club. That says something.
- Dee Karl

WOW... thats all I can say

And really?? Trade JT for a Dman?

It starts tonight, eh?

Shoulda started back in January

And what happens if the team comes out and gets scored on with the 1st shot for the 15th time this season and gets hammered 5-0, does that mean it ends tonight? Shoulda asked him that question

I got tht I was commenting on Dee saying there arent any "bumhole millionares!" lmao
- Cptmjl

I know that.

Check your PMs, dummy....

These are the most ridicuolous answers to questions I've seen I think? "Bumholes don't become millionares"? What about Dolan? Is there a special clause for him? Seriously, stop writing and go bake a cake or somethig.
- Cptmjl

To hell with Dolan, Look at wallstreet

I don't believe in hitting women, but she's needs a slap in the head if she really believes that

It starts tonight, eh?

Shoulda started back in January

And what happens if the team comes out and gets scored on with the 1st shot for the 15th time this season and gets hammered 5-0, does that mean it ends tonight? Shoulda asked him that question
- Killer' Carlson

If they lose it starts tomorrow.

I agree. If JT does want out in a year or two I would not blame him at all.
- ses111

I don't see JT asking for a trade, the kids such a stand up guy it's unreal

But he will be running as soon as he can come UFA

If they lose it starts tomorrow.
- mighty13duck

hahah....nice.

If they lose it starts tomorrow.
- mighty13duck

This
- Cptmjl

I'm still laughing at the busy GM comment. It's like the hockey people interviews on IPB calling Snow an aggresive GM.

We chatted for a long time. I'll give you the answers right now.
1) Because he believes in the rebuild and it's progression and two because so does the owner.
2) JT is happy where he is. If the day comes that he "demands" things that are unrealistic for the franchise, then they will be dealt with at the time.
3) No. GMs don't make a team competitive, the talent does. the talent is young, they're developing. And they will.
- Dee Karl

Wang also believes his golden child dp is still an elite goalie even though he moves like a snail in the crease, and gets injured basically whenever he sneezes. He is clueless. Go drink some more kool-aide dee.

Didn't realize there was a new thread...posted this in the other one:

Kabanov's team is on NHL Network...third period. Best player on the ice in the short time I've been watching is a Sabres' D prospect on the other team, Jerome Gauthier-Leduc. I guess he has 27 goals so far as a defenseman

And Nolan only played the vets and played the trap. It was boring hockey and it wasn't going anywhere. One 8th place finish with no potential to go higher or further is not progression.

As to who is the right coach? How about a coach with a NHL track record. This team needs someone who has done it successfully before.
- Isles_since_6

Yes, 14th and 15th place finishes with no potential to go higher are much better than 8th place finishes

Nolan didn't play Tambellini. He was perfectly comfortable playing Comeau when he earned his ice time. Other than those two, I must have missed all this young talent that Garth gave Nolan that he refused to play. I understand he didn't want to go through a rebuild. That's different than "only playing vets." I'm sure if you gave Nolan John Tavares, Taylor Hall, etc., he'd have no problem finding a way to slot them in. Hey, folks were still complaining about the coaches after Nolan playing Sim too much, or Rolston, etc., and saying they were taking ice time away from the kids. Coaches turn to their vets. It wasn't just Nolan.

As for the style of play, Nolan's style fit his players. He didn't have two or three lines of insane offensive firepower...he had good defensive forwards, and he used them appropriately. He made Hunter-Sillinger-Hilbert into a line to be reckoned with for crying out loud. Knowing your players' strengths and letting them play accordingly is better than Gordon trying to force Brendan Witt to play like Mike Green.

I was happy with the excitement level when Nolan coached. I don't know what to say if you find bottom-five finishes more exciting than the last game of the season against the Devils going to a shootout to determine the Isles' playoff fate in 2006-07. Heck, these days the team spends 3/4 of a game pinned in its own zone running around unsuccessfully after loose pucks like chickens with their heads cut off. That's exciting to you? Nolan's teams were better, tougher, and always ready to play.

Sorry to ramble, but I never understood why Isles fans are always so quick to trash people who have left the organization. Nolan was a good coach who did a lot with a little. Give the man his due. I don't care if no one hired him afterward. When he was head coach of the New York Islanders, the team played a gritty, tough brand of hockey, and we never saw him give broken-record interviews about the team needing to find the will to compete game after game.

Yes, 14th and 15th place finishes with no potential to go higher are much better than 8th place finishes Nolan didn't play Tambellini. He was perfectly comfortable playing Comeau when he earned his ice time. Other than those two, I must have missed all this young talent that Garth gave Nolan that he refused to play. I understand he didn't want to go through a rebuild. That's different than "only playing vets." I'm sure if you gave Nolan John Tavares, Taylor Hall, etc., he'd have no problem finding a way to slot them in. Hey, folks were still complaining about the coaches after Nolan playing Sim too much, or Rolston, etc., and saying they were taking ice time away from the kids. Coaches turn to their vets. It wasn't just Nolan. As for the style of play, Nolan's style fit his players. He didn't have two or three lines of insane offensive firepower...he had good defensive forwards, and he used them appropriately. He made Hunter-Sillinger-Hilbert into a line to be reckoned with for crying out loud. Knowing your players' strengths and letting them play accordingly is better than Gordon trying to force Brendan Witt to play like Mike Green. I was happy with the excitement level when Nolan coached. I don't know what to say if you find bottom-five finishes more exciting than the last game of the season against the Devils going to a shootout to determine the Isles' playoff fate in 2006-07. Heck, these days the team spends 3/4 of a game pinned in its own zone running around unsuccessfully after loose pucks like chickens with their heads cut off. That's exciting to you? Nolan's teams were better, tougher, and always ready to play. Sorry to ramble, but I never understood why Isles fans are always so quick to trash people who have left the organization. Nolan was a good coach who did a lot with a little. Give the man his due. I don't care if no one hired him afterward. When he was head coach of the New York Islanders, the team played a gritty, tough brand of hockey, and we never saw him give broken-record interviews about the team needing to find the will to compete game after game.
- UIF

No rambling, well said, an agree

Yes, 14th and 15th place finishes with no potential to go higher are much better than 8th place finishes

Nolan didn't play Tambellini. He was perfectly comfortable playing Comeau when he earned his ice time. Other than those two, I must have missed all this young talent that Garth gave Nolan that he refused to play. I understand he didn't want to go through a rebuild. That's different than "only playing vets." I'm sure if you gave Nolan John Tavares, Taylor Hall, etc., he'd have no problem finding a way to slot them in. Hey, folks were still complaining about the coaches after Nolan playing Sim too much, or Rolston, etc., and saying they were taking ice time away from the kids. Coaches turn to their vets. It wasn't just Nolan.

As for the style of play, Nolan's style fit his players. He didn't have two or three lines of insane offensive firepower...he had good defensive forwards, and he used them appropriately. He made Hunter-Sillinger-Hilbert into a line to be reckoned with for crying out loud. Knowing your players' strengths and letting them play accordingly is better than Gordon trying to force Brendan Witt to play like Mike Green.

I was happy with the excitement level when Nolan coached. I don't know what to say if you find bottom-five finishes more exciting than the last game of the season against the Devils going to a shootout to determine the Isles' playoff fate in 2006-07. Heck, these days the team spends 3/4 of a game pinned in its own zone running around unsuccessfully after loose pucks like chickens with their heads cut off. That's exciting to you? Nolan's teams were better, tougher, and always ready to play.

Sorry to ramble, but I never understood why Isles fans are always so quick to trash people who have left the organization. Nolan was a good coach who did a lot with a little. Give the man his due. I don't care if no one hired him afterward. When he was head coach of the New York Islanders, the team played a gritty, tough brand of hockey, and we never saw him give broken-record interviews about the team needing to find the will to compete game after game.
- UIF

I enjoyed Nolans team a hell of a lot more then I've enjoyed Capt Jacks team. I'll trade 3 or 4 yrs of 7th and 8th place finishes to 4 yrs of being in the losers lottery and showing nothing yr after yr. Maybe I'm nuts but it sounds a bit more entertaining having a winning record then discussing Draft Picks 7 months in advance every season.