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wilsonecho91
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Mar 9 @ 7:40 PM ET
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Mar 9 @ 7:44 PM ET
i will check it out. thanks. i'm a huge Nabokov fan (not the goalie). Dostoevsky's shorter work, Note from the Underground, was a favorite of mine when I was younger. Bulgakov too.
- wilsonecho91



omg



love nabby so much and bulgakov's master and marg is one of my all time favoritest ever



** do you like goncharev's oblomov? whilst trying to spellcheck myself i see there is a movie from 1980, might have to search that out
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 9 @ 7:49 PM ET
i agree in part, but how many times have you seen a team have a brutal first round series and then just be too burnt to continue on? i want the easiest road possible. avoiding the caps and pens in 010 was definitely a reason why they made it to the finals, imo.
- Crimsoninja


The preds gave the blackhawks their toughest battle in the playoffs in their cup run. I think that was the first round. Always a Yin to the Yang, I'm going to root for a Pens matchup.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 9 @ 7:49 PM ET
Carter scores. 1-0 LA
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 9 @ 7:51 PM ET
Carter scores. 1-0 LA
- MBFlyerfan



flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 9 @ 8:11 PM ET
mike green rightfully suspended 3 games.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Mar 9 @ 8:11 PM ET
omg



love nabby so much and bulgakov's master and marg is one of my all time favoritest ever



** do you like goncharev's oblomov? whilst trying to spellcheck myself i see there is a movie from 1980, might have to search that out

- Don'tForgetTocchet


don't know oblomov i don't think. i will look into it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 9 @ 8:13 PM ET
mike green rightfully suspended 3 games.
- flyerscup2011



All I'll say is I don't get it.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Mar 9 @ 8:16 PM ET
All I'll say is I don't get it.
- MJL

, betcha Green is saying the same after looking at another hit. Bet he wishes he was a Red Wing eh
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 9 @ 8:34 PM ET
All I'll say is I don't get it.
- MJL


What's not to get?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 9 @ 9:00 PM ET
What's not to get?
- Just5


You tell me?
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 9 @ 9:10 PM ET
pens had a goal disallowed?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 9 @ 9:34 PM ET
pens had a goal disallowed?
- flyerscup2011

unpossible.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 9 @ 10:47 PM ET
You tell me?

- MJL


I thought he would only get 1-2 games but the distinction between the Kronwall hit and the Green hit are black and white in my mind. Shanahan got it right imo.
steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Mar 9 @ 11:47 PM ET
Rags lose. Woot!
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Mar 10 @ 12:45 AM ET
Rags lose. Woot!
- steelydan

nice
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 10 @ 12:45 AM ET

- wilsonecho91

OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 10 @ 1:06 AM ET

- wilsonecho91


so good
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 10 @ 1:40 AM ET
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Mar 10 @ 6:06 AM ET
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Mar 10 @ 7:14 AM ET

- hammarby31


Can totally see why the preds might want him back. Gotta keep Trotz in line somehow.

EDIT: This stuff obviously goes both ways


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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 10 @ 7:24 AM ET
You tell me?

- MJL


For one, he hit him with his elbow. And here you can definitely say he targeted his head because if he did not hit his head, he would have hit nothing.

Kronwall was at least aiming for the middle of Voraceks chest with his shoulder, and Voracek just happened to duck in to the hit.

The difference is pretty plain.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 10 @ 7:41 AM ET
For one, he hit him with his elbow. And here you can definitely say he targeted his head because if he did not hit his head, he would have hit nothing.

Kronwall was at least aiming for the middle of Voraceks chest with his shoulder, and Voracek just happened to duck in to the hit.

The difference is pretty plain.

- MBFlyerfan


I didn't say there wasn't any difference between the two hits. But saying where Kronwall was aiming is an assumption in my opinion. In my opinion Shanahan missed the boat on the Voracek hit. And along with some differences, the main one is that the player Green hit was already engaged by another player. But there are also similarities in that a vulnerable player was targeted, and which is the main part of Rule 48, the head was the principal point of contact. And I don't beleive that Voracek ducked to the hit.
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