How come you didn't guarantee a win in this game like you did with the game in Winnepeg Garth??

[quote=TerryPegs]
but Lindy and his system or philosophy looked bad last night, really bad.
- Full Throttle

Its not just last night, it been 13 years

Yea I agree FT.

Sorry for my post being so long winded. I am so frustrated with this team like many of us are I am sure.

Time to look at the last week in another way. Sabres have lost 2 out of their last 3 games..................
- rapperray

or as I like to put it

There is still time to tank

or as I like to put it

There is still time to tank


- Pope of Pucks

Tim Connolly has a disciplinary hearing scheduled for today . How the hell does that happen ?

Edit: bonehead office workers brainfart, nevermind

Tim Connolly has a disciplinary hearing scheduled for today . How the hell does that happen ?
- cabin

Hitting someone with your purse can be quite dangerous and there definitely is intent to injure.

Hitting someone with your purse can be quite dangerous and there definitely is intent to injure.
- Pope of Pucks

I have seen videos of that .. you are right. very dangerous

WGR550 talking about Myers.

I know this will be an unpopular thought but I really hope Darcy entertains the notion of making Myers available as a piece involving an established scoring commodity in the off season.

Myers in my opinion is not going to ever be anything better than an average defenseman. Honestly , you Myer lovers have to admit he has more bad games than good games. And at some point "you guys" have to stop using his age as an excuse. Just the truth.

I would involve him in any deal that is going to have a proven goal scorer coming back our way.The system appears to be deep in defenseman not in goal goal scorers.

If they were serious with this 3 year talk , then trading someone like Myers from an organizational area of strength should help this franchise in its quest for a Cup.

Stop trading power forwards like Kassian that are not all that rare but rare enough when your team gets pushed off the puck on a far to consistent as it is Darcy. You are supposed to be making "smart trades" as you like to call them Darcy. Well then trading a power forward for another smallish centerman when your team is full of that type of player to begin with, well lets just say was not smart!

Start using your position of organizational depth to acquire the pieces we need to move forward. The defense. That is the "smart move" to make Darcy.

Still cant believe he traded away a power forward while he knew he was losing Goose as well. Some smart hockey moves huh? Sorry I know some will debate this with me saying the team has played better since the deadline. The team has played better because of one reason and one reason only = Miller. Darcy needs to "smarten up" .

WGR550 talking about Myers.

I know this will be an unpopular thought but I really hope Darcy entertains the notion of making Myers available as a piece involving an established scoring commodity in the off season.

Myers in my opinion is not going to ever be anything better than an average defenseman. Honestly , you Myer lovers have to admit he has more bad games than good games. And at some point "you guys" have to stop using his age as an excuse. Just the truth.

I would involve him in any deal that is going to have a proven goal scorer coming back our way.The system appears to be deep in defenseman not in goal goal scorers.

If they were serious with this 3 year talk , then trading someone like Myers from an organizational area of strength should help this franchise in its quest for a Cup.

Stop trading power forwards like Kassian that are not all that rare but rare enough when your team gets pushed off the puck on a far to consistent as it is Darcy. You are supposed to be making "smart trades" as you like to call them Darcy. Well then trading a power forward for another smallish centerman when your team is full of that type of player to begin with, well lets just say was not smart!

Start using your position of organizational depth to acquire the pieces we need to move forward. The defense. That is the "smart move" to make Darcy.

Still cant believe he traded away a power forward while he knew he was losing Goose as well. Some smart hockey moves huh? Sorry I know some will debate this with me saying the team has played better since the deadline. The team has played better because of one reason and one reason only = Miller. Darcy needs to "smarten up" .
- TerryPegs

Nope. Myers still a kid. Give your franchise dman time to develop. Ask Ottawa if they want Chara back. Florida traded Jovo same way. D is like a fine wine give it time to age. He has all the skills to be something special.

Nope. Myers still a kid. Give your franchise dman time to develop. Ask Ottawa if they want Chara back. Florida traded Jovo same way. D is like a fine wine give it time to age. He has all the skills to be something special.
- hafgod

Agreed . Trade away myers and we will be looking for that stud D man next season. We have that piece . lets work on getting the other pieces to put it all together.

Nope. Myers still a kid. Give your franchise dman time to develop. Ask Ottawa if they want Chara back. Florida traded Jovo same way. D is like a fine wine give it time to age. He has all the skills to be something special.
- hafgod

I think some of you really need to stop comparing Myers to Chara.

The only thing similar is their size and I think thats why many of you like to compare the two players.

Myers will never be a Chara. Please stop making that comparison. Besides winning rookie of the year Myers has done nothing since in all reality. There is no evidence that Myers is going to be a Norris trophy winner. There is more evidence watching and being a season ticket holder that Myers has more bad games than good. If that is what constitutes the making of a Norris trophy winner then perhaps I am remiss.

This is his 3rd full season in the league, when do the excuses for him stop?

I'd like to ask a serious question if I may?

I understand they have played a ton of games lately and once again they were playing back to backers against a team that had not in Boston.

This game was a mirror image of the Winnipeg game the other night. Hang in there till the 3rd period and then in effect watch Lindy employ what is the equivalent to an NFL's prevent you from winning defense. This team does not produce enough quality scoring chances as it is , then it looks like Lindy tells his team dont even bother to forecheck the offensive zone. Lets play for the point .

I know they were tired but Lindy and his system or philosophy looked bad last night, really bad.

Lets be honest , many marginal offensive players this organization has seen come through here has very seldom flourished here. In fact the opposite normally is true.

Lindy for me has worn out his welcome here. He refuses to create a system that is beneficial to the talent at hand, its his way or no way or in this case, probably no playoffs.

I would love to see Lindy's contract bought out and for Terry to get a fresh mind in behind that Sabres bench but I think we all know all that is a longshot at best.

One word best describes watching this team the other night in Winnipeg and Boston last night = frustration ! You can see that the chains were taken off the players once we fell behind in that game last night because the opportunities started flowing.
- TerryPegs

and are still here

WGR550 talking about Myers.

I know this will be an unpopular thought but I really hope Darcy entertains the notion of making Myers available as a piece involving an established scoring commodity in the off season.

Myers in my opinion is not going to ever be anything better than an average defenseman. Honestly , you Myer lovers have to admit he has more bad games than good games. And at some point "you guys" have to stop using his age as an excuse. Just the truth.

I would involve him in any deal that is going to have a proven goal scorer coming back our way.The system appears to be deep in defenseman not in goal goal scorers.

If they were serious with this 3 year talk , then trading someone like Myers from an organizational area of strength should help this franchise in its quest for a Cup.

Stop trading power forwards like Kassian that are not all that rare but rare enough when your team gets pushed off the puck on a far to consistent as it is Darcy. You are supposed to be making "smart trades" as you like to call them Darcy. Well then trading a power forward for another smallish centerman when your team is full of that type of player to begin with, well lets just say was not smart!

Start using your position of organizational depth to acquire the pieces we need to move forward. The defense. That is the "smart move" to make Darcy.

Still cant believe he traded away a power forward while he knew he was losing Goose as well. Some smart hockey moves huh? Sorry I know some will debate this with me saying the team has played better since the deadline. The team has played better because of one reason and one reason only = Miller. Darcy needs to "smarten up" .
- TerryPegs

I get what you are saying but i have to say one thing. Keep the serious about 3 years in mind when you say we have orginizational depth at D and then you trade Myers.. We have that depth, i will agree with you on that. However if you trade away Myers and expect anyone of the prospects other than possibly McNabb to come in and make our D better in the 3 year period i think you are not seeing the whole picture.. If you move Myers you would need to go get a UFA Dman that can fill that void..

that is all i have to say about that. but we need to get tougher.

I think some of you really need to stop comparing Myers to Chara.

The only thing similar is their size and I think thats why many of you like to compare the two players.

Myers will never be a Chara. Please stop making that comparison. Besides winning rookie of the year Myers has done nothing since in all reality. There is no evidence that Myers is going to be a Norris trophy winner. There is more evidence watching and being a season ticket holder that Myers has more bad games than good. If that is what constitutes the making of a Norris trophy winner then perhaps I am remiss.

This is his 3rd full season in the league, when do the excuses for him stop?
- TerryPegs

next season when he is making top D $

and are still here
- b0s0o1

that is the problem.. They need to make a splash this off season to toughen up and de-teenidol this team. I don't give a crap if it is unpopular to move Roy or Gerbe but they need to get bigger and those two are not doing anything for this team so they should be moved.

I think some of you really need to stop comparing Myers to Chara.

The only thing similar is their size and I think thats why many of you like to compare the two players.

Myers will never be a Chara. Please stop making that comparison. Besides winning rookie of the year Myers has done nothing since in all reality. There is no evidence that Myers is going to be a Norris trophy winner. There is more evidence watching and being a season ticket holder that Myers has more bad games than good. If that is what constitutes the making of a Norris trophy winner then perhaps I am remiss.

This is his 3rd full season in the league, when do the excuses for him stop?
- TerryPegs

Not picking a fight Myers ain't perfect. Like his O game still learning. Could have used a year in Portland. He is still a kid at 24 or 35 when his game will mature.
As for the o your misguided its not that we need a trade. The guy picking made bad decisions.
Leino 4+ ayear
Stafford 4+ a year
Vanek 7.5 +
Roy 4+
Pommer 5+
and you trust him to trade your best young D.

Trying to figure out what purpose Ennis has on this team, I'm hoping they don't give him a bunch of cash in the offseason because he's not worth it.

I get what you are saying but i have to say one thing. Keep the serious about 3 years in mind when you say we have orginizational depth at D and then you trade Myers.. We have that depth, i will agree with you on that. However if you trade away Myers and expect anyone of the prospects other than possibly McNabb to come in and make our D better in the 3 year period i think you are not seeing the whole picture.. If you move Myers you would need to go get a UFA Dman that can fill that void..

that is all i have to say about that. but we need to get tougher.
- SabresFaninIndiana

Brennan is ready to step up as well.

And in all honesty I like what I have seen from Sulzer thus far as well , I think he is a keeper.And I agree that we need to get tougher for sure that is why I went on my losing Goose then trading away Kassian rant. How is this intelligent on Darcy's part when the "clutch and grab" is back?

SMH.

Brennan is ready to step up as well.

And in all honesty I like what I have seen from Sulzer thus far as well , I think he is a keeper.And I agree that we need to get tougher for sure that is why I went on my losing Goose then trading away Kassian rant. How is this intelligent on Darcy's part when the "clutch and grab" is back?

SMH.
- TerryPegs

they were looking to the future.. They got a 1st for goose and a potential top line center for Kassian (who they didn't feel was working out here).. They also rid themselves of Grags who has been terrible and picked up a true steady #7 type dman.

They were not going to win it this year and they knew that. They looked at the teams needs and the biggest one was top line center... They attempted to fill that by moving a player they were not keen on. They felt that he was replaceable by Folgino and there are other tough wingers that will be UFAs this summer.

WGR550 talking about Myers.

I know this will be an unpopular thought but I really hope Darcy entertains the notion of making Myers available as a piece involving an established scoring commodity in the off season.

Myers in my opinion is not going to ever be anything better than an average defenseman. Honestly , you Myer lovers have to admit he has more bad games than good games. And at some point "you guys" have to stop using his age as an excuse. Just the truth.

I would involve him in any deal that is going to have a proven goal scorer coming back our way.The system appears to be deep in defenseman not in goal goal scorers.

If they were serious with this 3 year talk , then trading someone like Myers from an organizational area of strength should help this franchise in its quest for a Cup.
- TerryPegs

they just signged him to a lucrative extension...he's on the top-pairing and is looked upon as a franchise #1/top-pairing defenseman...

only one scenario in which i'd trade him right now--if it involved stamkos coming back

Stop trading power forwards like Kassian that are not all that rare but rare enough when your team gets pushed off the puck on a far to consistent as it is Darcy. You are supposed to be making "smart trades" as you like to call them Darcy. Well then trading a power forward for another smallish centerman when your team is full of that type of player to begin with, well lets just say was not smart!
- TerryPegs

kassian=rare?...yup, when he was a man amongst boys in junior...as of right now, when he's playing against men, he's been inconsistent at best and looking like a bottom-six grinder with some scoring upside

Start using your position of organizational depth to acquire the pieces we need to move forward. The defense. That is the "smart move" to make Darcy.

Still cant believe he traded away a power forward while he knew he was losing Goose as well. Some smart hockey moves huh? Sorry I know some will debate this with me saying the team has played better since the deadline. The team has played better because of one reason and one reason only = Miller. Darcy needs to "smarten up" .
- TerryPegs

they did that to aqcuire hodgson, they traded kassian and a "puck-moving" d-man (of which they have many) for a center (which they have few)

if you're looking at goose and kassian as tough power forwards, look at their numbers and look at the "thoughness" they've shown this season



p.s. those are some long posts

Leino 4+ ayear
Stafford 4+ a year
Vanek 7.5 +
Roy 4+
Pommer 5+
and you trust him to trade your best young D.
- hafgod

Good point. And no I do not trust Darcy as you tell from some of my posts.

I would like to see both Lindy and Darcy relieved of their duties at seasons end , just to be clear.

But yes you make a good point. I do not trust Darcy to make any moves any longer for this franchise but I fear neither are going anywhere much to my dismay.

p.s. those are some long posts
- b0s0o1

Yea , I apologize.

Letting out some anxiety I guess....

Trying to figure out what purpose Ennis has on this team, I'm hoping they don't give him a bunch of cash in the offseason because he's not worth it.
- SABRES 89

I am trying to figure out the purpose of ennis, vanek, roy, gerbe, leino, kaleta, staff, boyes, 4 puck moving d men, lindy and darcy

they were looking to the future.. They got a 1st for goose and a potential top line center for Kassian (who they didn't feel was working out here).. They also rid themselves of Grags who has been terrible and picked up a true steady #7 type dman.

They were not going to win it this year and they knew that. They looked at the teams needs and the biggest one was top line center... They attempted to fill that by moving a player they were not keen on. They felt that he was replaceable by Folgino and there are other tough wingers that will be UFAs this summer.
- SabresFaninIndiana

rave on, you be-bopping apple-dude you

Yea , I apologize.

Letting out some anxiety I guess....
- TerryPegs

heard...

no worries

Well at least one thing is for sure.... We will get a retooled set of lines now that Vanek is out.

i love how so many people say this season is over. Like losing to the defending Stanley Cup Champions in the final 5 minutes with our back up goaltender AT BOSTON is such a devastating blow. We had beaten them 2 straight times previously.

We needed Vanek to hit his stride and start scoring goals but without him it will be very tough to win games.

I personally think this just exemplifies how much Vanek is over paid and under achieving. In the last 3 years Vanek has now become Timmy Connolly version 2.0.