You call it a hate fest. The rest of us call it the truth. Not my fault some of you flip flop back and fourth after a win or two. Anybody who doesn't see that this franchise is a mess needs to plunk their head from whatever hole its stuck in
- Vukota

Thank you, call it a hate fest. I call it being aware of whats going on and not sticking your head in the sand and hoping for the best

Will you ever stop your unholy quest for kid ass?
- WayneZ

Nice work

And if he got traded, snow would be getting killed next year when he can't find a goalie or winger to replace either of them.
- Isles316

according to that theory he will be getting killed for not getting a goalie and forward replacement...at least if he traded those 2 he would have something to show for it...dont make it sound like those 2 have resigned....

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- Killer' Carlson

those are my friends steph & Val. I'm going to give them crap for that photo.

I can not understand how these "players" are even doing post game interviews? Nice to see they have balls once they get off the ice?
- Cptmjl

This has to be one of the worst complaints about the team I've ever heard.

according to that theory he will be getting killed for not getting a goalie and forward replacement...at least if he traded those 2 he would have something to show for it...dont make it sound like those 2 have resigned....
- LetsGoIsles

Not trying to make it sound like anything. Just saying Snow can't win in that instance.

EDIT: Not going to get a great return for guys that are UFA's. Maybe a couple of 2nd round picks or something to that affect. Is it worth trading those guys for that or is it worth trying to retain them since they have had good seasons? About 5 guys on the team you can say have had good seasons. They are 2 of them.

Not trying to make it sound like anything. Just saying Snow can't win in that instance.

EDIT: Not going to get a great return for guys that are UFA's. Maybe a couple of 2nd round picks or something to that affect. Is it worth trading those guys for that or is it worth trying to retain them since they have had good seasons? About 5 guys on the team you can say have had good seasons. They are 2 of them.
- Isles316

It's all about risk/reward. We flip one of them for a 2nd or 3rd round pick and we get a guy that may not sniff the NHL for 3-4 years, or we risk losing them and retain one or both, and both are already proven NHL talent. Gotta risk something to get something.

those are my friends steph & Val. I'm going to give them crap for that photo.
- jmo16

Are you good friends with them? Could you please let them know that i am a very successful casting agent, and I think they would be a perfect fit for a Ron Howard film that will be coming out next summer. I'll just need a photo of them in their birthday suits, preferably together. I;ll pm you my contact info. Thanks.

It's all about risk/reward. We flip one of them for a 2nd or 3rd round pick and we get a guy that may not sniff the NHL for 3-4 years, or we risk losing them and retain one or both, and both are already proven NHL talent. Gotta risk something to get something.
- eichiefs9

understood and ill be the first one to take a risk but not on retaining mediocre/older guys for future years that have helped you finish in 26th place. what sense is that?

cutting pandalfo isnt the answer...and getting a few defensemen wont solve everything. some of these forwards, granted some talented, need to be sent packing and bigger/stronger/better/more talented players need to come in. i think resigning parenteau would be a huge mistake cause itll lead to the 2013 isles to have the same exact team as this years team (forward wise)...as for nabokov id love to have him back, i just dont think he wants to be back; makes no sense for him

so to answer the question, yes i would have taken a 2nd or even 3rd eventhough im SURE both players could have easily brought back an early 2nd round pick. because parenteau is replaceable and id be shocked if nabokov resigned with the isles. shocked!!

It's all about risk/reward. We flip one of them for a 2nd or 3rd round pick and we get a guy that may not sniff the NHL for 3-4 years, or we risk losing them and retain one or both, and both are already proven NHL talent. Gotta risk something to get something.
- eichiefs9

i agree with that but I feel like the Islanders are now at a point where they need NHL ready players now. And while they MAY get a solid NHL player down the line, I feel like the risk is more worth it to try to keep Nabby and PA because the Isles don't have a great track record recently of filling holes with solid players.

Regardless, losing these guys is a big deal in my opinion and this offseason is huge for Snow. I still give him the benefit of the doubt because I think he has done some good things but if he can't keep these guys, (unless someone gives PA a stupid contract) then he has failed big time.

He needs to upgrade this team by September either by trade or Free Agency. Just by retaining Nabokov and P.A., the Isles would have a lot of solid peices in place.

I'd love for them to go after Shane Doan. He has as much heart as anyone in the NHL and they need a leader like that. He can still play too.

understood and ill be the first one to take a risk but not on retaining mediocre/older guys for future years that have helped you finish in 26th place. what sense is that?

cutting pandalfo isnt the answer...and getting a few defensemen wont solve everything. some of these forwards, granted some talented, need to be sent packing and bigger/stronger/better/more talented players need to come in. i think resigning parenteau would be a huge mistake cause itll lead to the 2013 isles to have the same exact team as this years team (forward wise)...as for nabokov id love to have him back, i just dont think he wants to be back; makes no sense for him

so to answer the question, yes i would have taken a 2nd or even 3rd eventhough im SURE both players could have easily brought back an early 2nd round pick. because parenteau is replaceable and id be shocked if nabokov resigned with the isles. shocked!!
- LetsGoIsles

I will say this. The Isles top 6 needs a change. Okposo, Moulson, Neilson, PA and Grabs are all good,nice players. But the group of them isn't cutting it. They are too soft as a whole and don't bring much attitude or grit.

understood and ill be the first one to take a risk but not on retaining mediocre/older guys for future years that have helped you finish in 26th place. what sense is that?

cutting pandalfo isnt the answer...and getting a few defensemen wont solve everything. some of these forwards, granted some talented, need to be sent packing and bigger/stronger/better/more talented players need to come in. i think resigning parenteau would be a huge mistake cause itll lead to the 2013 isles to have the same exact team as this years team (forward wise)...as for nabokov id love to have him back, i just dont think he wants to be back; makes no sense for him

so to answer the question, yes i would have taken a 2nd or even 3rd eventhough im SURE both players could have easily brought back an early 2nd round pick. because parenteau is replaceable and id be shocked if nabokov resigned with the isles. shocked!!
- LetsGoIsles

I'm not disagreeing with your points and I'm not saying I'm complacent with the current situation, but look at the list of free agents http://capgeek.com/free_agents.php who would you realistically target on that list? And if it's not through free agency, who would you trade for? Because likely anybody that you or me want is either A) Not going to be moved or B) Going to require a pretty big over-payment to sway a GM to move them.

I'd drive guys like Okposo and Grabner to the airport for the right return.

I'm not disagreeing with your points and I'm not saying I'm complacent with the current situation, but look at the list of free agents http://capgeek.com/free_agents.php who would you realistically target on that list? And if it's not through free agency, who would you trade for? Because likely anybody that you or me want is either A) Not going to be moved or B) Going to require a pretty big over-payment to sway a GM to move them.

I'd drive guys like Okposo and Grabner to the airport for the right return.
- eichiefs9

im not sure which guys of that list would top my list (mostly because im blocked at work from that site) but id tell you one thing, without even looking at this i know for fact there would be PLENTY of guys that would be above pa parenteau.

and im all for overpayment....for free agents.

Well Gents seeing as I was the one for the last couple of weeks saying we had ZERO shot at making the playoffs (negative guy for once). I would like to help talk u all off the ledge. Indeed this teams has some GLARING needs, but they also have some bright spots. We clearly could use a stud forward and a stud D-man, but we have TONS of money to get those 2 players. This is not an "overhaul" type of situation. Right now we have one of the best top lines in the league.. Add a parise to that mix of top 6 forwards and I find it very hard to believe we would not have 2 very solid lines of forwards. Then you can put Nielsen, Bailey, and whoever doesn't make the cut from Nino, Ok, Grab, Strome, etc. on the 3rd line. That is 3 solid lines. Our biggest forward issue all year has been that abomination of a 4th line.. with guys like Casey, Brock, Lee, Haley, Ulstrom, Kirill 1 and 2, all vying for a spot instead of these 2 bums Pando and reasoner our bottom 2 lines will also be just fine.

Defense - We need to sign 1 stud top pairing D-man. We have the players and prospects to fill the rest. I would love 2.. but 1 guy is fine. just for a name lets say Suter.. So Suter/Hamonic, Streit/Amack (yes he has had an off year but I still believe in him), combined with 3 more guys from Donovan, Jurcina, Ness, Mayfield, Dehaan, Pedan, or a less sought after free agent... we will be fine.

The goaltending situation will be either/or/and Poulin and Nillson..

Yes nabby should have been traded.. PA too. We should have gotten every assett possible. Snow is an idiot for not getting those guys signed or traded. That said we will end up with a very very good D-man prospect in the draft.. RYAN MURRAY!!!

I will say this. The Isles top 6 needs a change. Okposo, Moulson, Neilson, PA and Grabs are all good,nice players. But the group of them isn't cutting it. They are too soft as a whole and don't bring much attitude or grit.
- Isles316

Add a Parise, to that list.. it would change it a bit.. no?

Well Gents seeing as I was the one for the last couple of weeks saying we had ZERO shot at making the playoffs (negative guy for once). I would like to help talk u all off the ledge. Indeed this teams has some GLARING needs, but they also have some bright spots. We clearly could use a stud forward and a stud D-man, but we have TONS of money to get those 2 players. This is not an "overhaul" type of situation. Right now we have one of the best top lines in the league.. Add a parise to that mix of top 6 forwards and I find it very hard to believe we would not have 2 very solid lines of forwards. Then you can put Nielsen, Bailey, and whoever doesn't make the cut from Nino, Ok, Grab, Strome, etc. on the 3rd line. That is 3 solid lines. Our biggest forward issue all year has been that abomination of a 4th line.. with guys like Casey, Brock, Lee, Haley, Ulstrom, Kirill 1 and 2, all vying for a spot instead of these 2 bums Pando and reasoner our bottom 2 lines will also be just fine.

Defense - We need to sign 1 stud top pairing D-man. We have the players and prospects to fill the rest. I would love 2.. but 1 guy is fine. just for a name lets say Suter.. So Suter/Hamonic, Streit/Amack (yes he has had an off year but I still believe in him), combined with 3 more guys from Donovan, Jurcina, Ness, Mayfield, Dehaan, Pedan, or a less sought after free agent... we will be fine.

The goaltending situation will be either/or/and Poulin and Nillson..

Yes nabby should have been traded.. PA too. We should have gotten every assett possible. Snow is an idiot for not getting those guys signed or traded. That said we will end up with a very very good D-man prospect in the draft.. RYAN MURRAY!!!
- niteislander

Not for nothing but half of those prospects you named will not be vying for a roster spot next season.

We all might as well take a deep breath and realize that Parise and/or Suter will not, and never will, sign here. It's best to move on now and not get your hopes up, because you'll only be let down in the end.

Kasper in the house what is going on in this place. How are those Islanders doing? What they lost? 5 - 1 you say? Really? I cant beleive it!!! I gave up on these so long ago. We still have a clueless coach running the asylum. WE still have players who could care less if they win or lose. The ones who do care usually end up leaving (hmm hmmm Tavares). This team is embarassing to watch. I am so happy I have been really sick all week. IT has been the best thing for me. I am in shock that they have lost though, I can predict tomorrow to. 2 shots in the first. 5 in the second and 6 in the third. Brodeur sits there and laughs most of the game while the Islanders dont get past the red line. On the other side Devils will come out flying and destroy us and finally put us out of our misery that we have been waiting for all year. Here is to a great pick and cant wait for next year. What awesome vets does Snow still have up his sleeve. How ill Captain Jack right the ship? Will Wang beg for preseason games in China? Will Sparky go as a free agent. Ah cant wait

Add a Parise, to that list.. it would change it a bit.. no?
- niteislander

Im not sure where Parise will wind up but the Island seems like an unlikely destination. He would be going from a first rate organization with a brand new facility, and a highly respected gm/coaching staff, to a team lacking in all of those areas. Furthermore, he is dead set on winning a cup, and there is no way to measure how many years away the Isles are. If it came down to staying in NJ like he has repeatedly claimed he would like to, or going to the Isles, i would have to think he would resign with Uncle Lou. If i had to guess where he ends up, i would say the Wild, but who knows.

Im not sure where Parise will wind up but the Island seems like an unlikely destination. He would be going from a first rate organization with a brand new facility, and a highly respected gm/coaching staff, to a team lacking in all of those areas. Furthermore, he is dead set on winning a cup, and there is no way to measure how many years away the Isles are. If it came down to staying in NJ like he has repeatedly claimed he would like to, or going to the Isles, i would have to think he would resign with Uncle Lou. If i had to guess where he ends up, i would say the Wild, but who knows.
- WayneZ

i agree with all of this but dont be a fool and believe the same poop people here believe when PA says he wants to stay....bottomline is parise/pa are going where the money is and OF COURSE they will both say they love playing in their respective cities because the money might come from their current teams. dont forget he also made it VERY clear he is waiting to cash in

....oh, and im not sure how one can "measure" any team regarding how far away they are from winning a SC but thats another story.....if you think a brand new stadium and a highly respected gm/coaching plays much of any impact on the talent on the ice, youre wrong

Im not sure where Parise will wind up but the Island seems like an unlikely destination. He would be going from a first rate organization with a brand new facility, and a highly respected gm/coaching staff, to a team lacking in all of those areas. Furthermore, he is dead set on winning a cup, and there is no way to measure how many years away the Isles are. If it came down to staying in NJ like he has repeatedly claimed he would like to, or going to the Isles, i would have to think he would resign with Uncle Lou. If i had to guess where he ends up, i would say the Wild, but who knows.
- WayneZ

The Isles HAVE to spend about 20 mill this summer to get to the cap. I will guarantee they offer Parise the biggest number by far. Do you really think he will turn down playing with JT on the team his Dad played? do you really feel they have ZERO shot. I would say to completely say the Isles have zero shot is just foolish.

Im not sure where Parise will wind up but the Island seems like an unlikely destination. He would be going from a first rate organization with a brand new facility, and a highly respected gm/coaching staff, to a team lacking in all of those areas. Furthermore, he is dead set on winning a cup, and there is no way to measure how many years away the Isles are. If it came down to staying in NJ like he has repeatedly claimed he would like to, or going to the Isles, i would have to think he would resign with Uncle Lou. If i had to guess where he ends up, i would say the Wild, but who knows.
- WayneZ

I don't disagree with most of your point but who cares about a brand new building if no one is there to watch the games? I mean 24th in the league in attendance with a brand new building is awful. And yes, I am fully aware of my pitiful team and their attendance issues. I actually thought last nights game was at the coliseum based on the number of empty seats.

Question for you as a Devils fan.........Why did they trade for Zidlicky when he has another year on his contract at more money than what they traded away? Isn't that going to affect the money amount offered to Parise?

The Isles HAVE to spend about 20 mill this summer to get to the cap. I will guarantee they offer Parise the biggest number by far. Do you really think he will turn down playing with JT on the team his Dad played? do you really feel they have ZERO shot. I would say to completely say the Isles have zero shot is just foolish.
- niteislander

If your going to use the "his dad played here" as a bargaining chip, you can just as easily use the "he's from Minnesota" to wash that point out. Do I think the Islander have zero chance, no. But if it's between NJ, Minn, NYI and other, I'd say the NYI are at minimum 3rd on the list if not lower in order of probability.

Not for nothing but half of those prospects you named will not be vying for a roster spot next season.

We all might as well take a deep breath and realize that Parise and/or Suter will not, and never will, sign here. It's best to move on now and not get your hopes up, because you'll only be let down in the end.
- eichiefs9

half of them will not like who? granted some will be going back to college but by my count that is 3 or 4. Kabanov, Petrov, Dehaan, Donovan, Strome, Nino, Casey C. and Ulstrom are pretty definite to by vying... and Lee, Brock, Pedan, and Mayfield are possibles.

If your going to use the "his dad played here" as a bargaining chip, you can just as easily use the "he's from Minnesota" to wash that point out. Do I think the Islander have zero chance, no. But if it's between NJ, Minn, NYI and other, I'd say the NYI are at minimum 3rd on the list if not lower in order of probability.
- BringBackBalky

you are taking Money and JT factor out of it. Jersey does not have the money and Minn does not have JT. Those are big factors.. MONEY TALKS. If they by some friggin miracle have an Arena Deal done by then it would obviously help, but I really think u guys are fooling yourself if you think a kid his age will play for 2 million or more less to play for a team who may or may not be heading to bankruptcy court in the near future.

http://www.forbes.com/sit...ar-headed-for-bankruptcy/

and I don't care how nice the Arena is... it is still friggin Newark.

i agree with all of this but dont be a fool and believe the same poop people here believe when PA says he wants to stay....bottomline is parise/pa are going where the money is and OF COURSE they will both say they love playing in their respective cities because the money might come from their current teams. dont forget he also made it VERY clear he is waiting to cash in

....oh, and im not sure how one can "measure" any team regarding how far away they are from winning a SC but thats another story.....if you think a brand new stadium and a highly respected gm/coaching plays much of any impact on the talent on the ice, youre wrong
- LetsGoIsles

finally.. someone is talking sense.