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Jay Uller
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.27.2009

Mar 7 @ 7:01 PM ET
This blog should not have been written, your wasting your time, the hit was absolutely 100% north south.... Kronwall made a completely clean hit didnt put his arms up nothing, its not his fault Voracek was looking at his feet (a no no in hockey which fans always seem to forget about when they dont like that their player is hurt.) Get a grip, understand hockey or dont write about it. End of story.
snipesydangle
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Who's the best I often ponder,, MI
Joined: 03.02.2009

Mar 7 @ 7:03 PM ET
yea, i wish my players could get away with dirty crap like that too
- flyerscup2011





Dirty crap? Get real, you would be singing a different tune had it been the other way around.

Until then, keep
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 7:04 PM ET

Dirty crap? Get real, you would be singing a different tune had it been the other way around.

Until then, keep

- snipesydangle

i bet you were crying when stewart killed kronwall
but kronwall put himself in that position!
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 7 @ 7:06 PM ET
Im sure it was talked about but did anyone see Bryz slam his stick on the ice in the 3rd after a turnover in the Flyers zone and he made a great save? Did they ask him what that was about, I wasn't sure if he was just taunting the guy he stoned or if he was just pissed at the turnover. I mean I know I was pissed at the turnover, so I can't blame him, just curious.
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Mar 7 @ 7:07 PM ET
yea, i wish my players could get away with dirty crap like that too
- flyerscup2011

Clean hits don't belong in this league !!!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 7:07 PM ET
Clean hits don't belong in this league !!!
- keatondixon

then why was rule 48 made? those hits were clean until then
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Mar 7 @ 7:10 PM ET
Im sure it was talked about but did anyone see Bryz slam his stick on the ice in the 3rd after a turnover in the Flyers zone and he made a great save? Did they ask him what that was about, I wasn't sure if he was just taunting the guy he stoned or if he was just pissed at the turnover. I mean I know I was pissed at the turnover, so I can't blame him, just curious.
- aosplayo


I think he was bumped right before the turnover and was pissed at no call being made.
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Mar 7 @ 7:11 PM ET
then why was rule 48 made? those hits were clean until then
- 2Real

Hit was clean... get over it.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Mar 7 @ 7:11 PM ET
I'm not understanding your point , has anybody actually suggested Voracek has no right no an opinion?
- BulliesPhan87


No but they are vociferously complaining that his opinion on what happen to himself is wrong.
snipesydangle
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Who's the best I often ponder,, MI
Joined: 03.02.2009

Mar 7 @ 7:13 PM ET
i bet you were crying when stewart killed kronwall
but kronwall put himself in that position!

- 2Real




You're right Kronwall did put himself in that position, but he didn't skate backwards into Stewart now did he? And no I was not mad about it, you know why? Because he was fine, and that type of poop happens. Think what you want but Stewart was not malicious in that hit, just careless.

Voracek has come out and stated the hit was clean, and that he screwed himself over by putting himself in a vulnerable position, why are you still arguing otherwise? Wouldn't the player who received the hit have the best knowledge as to whether a hit was illegal or not? Good day, sir.
aosplayo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 01.14.2008

Mar 7 @ 7:13 PM ET
I think he was bumped right before the turnover and was pissed at no call being made.
- Jsaquella




Oh I did not see that, that makes sense then. He gets feisty in net, it's great to see.
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Mar 7 @ 7:14 PM ET
No but they are vociferously complaining that his opinion on what happen to himself is wrong.
- MBFlyerfan

hockeybuzz users obviously know whats correct over the actual players in the situation
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 7:14 PM ET
You're right Kronwall did put himself in that position, but he didn't skate backwards into Stewart now did he? And no I was not mad about it, you know why? Because he was fine, and that type of poop happens. Think what you want but Stewart was not malicious in that hit, just careless.

Voracek has come out and stated the hit was clean, and that he screwed himself over by putting himself in a vulnerable position, why are you still arguing otherwise? Wouldn't the player who received the hit have the best knowledge as to whether a hit was illegal or not? Good day, sir.

- snipesydangle

because he's not going to throw the NHL under a bus while he has brain damage
snipesydangle
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Who's the best I often ponder,, MI
Joined: 03.02.2009

Mar 7 @ 7:15 PM ET
because he's not going to throw the NHL under a bus while he has brain damage
- 2Real




Is that a serious comment?
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 7:16 PM ET
Is that a serious comment?
- snipesydangle

oh i didn't think you were being serious with your comments so i figured i'd continue the joke
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Mar 7 @ 7:18 PM ET
Is that a serious comment?
- snipesydangle

Of course it is ... Nothing logical ever comes from him.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 7:20 PM ET
Of course it is ... Nothing logical ever comes from him.
- keatondixon

anyone that can read would know the hit is a direct violation of rule 48 the language is crystal clear
snipesydangle
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Who's the best I often ponder,, MI
Joined: 03.02.2009

Mar 7 @ 7:23 PM ET
anyone that can read would know the hit is a direct violation of rule 48 the language is crystal clear
- 2Real



48.1
the circumstances of the hit, including whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position



Interesting....
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 7 @ 7:24 PM ET
anyone that can read would know the hit is a direct violation of rule 48 the language is crystal clear
- 2Real


this!
poisondhearts37
Los Angeles Kings
Location: A goaltending coach, A few good bounces and the oilers are cup champions!!
Joined: 01.24.2010

Mar 7 @ 7:24 PM ET
Kronwall isnt that much bigger than Voracek. Voracek had his head DOWN. If his head was up it wouldnt have been a head shot. Get over it.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 7 @ 7:25 PM ET
48.1



Interesting....

- snipesydangle


keep writing.... immediately prior or simultaneous to. kronwall had plenty of time to make a decision (give him a concussion or play the puck)
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 7:26 PM ET
48.1



Interesting....

- snipesydangle

voracek was trying to make a hockey play by playing the puck kronwall was just trying to injure someone
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 7 @ 7:26 PM ET
Kronwall isnt that much bigger than Voracek. Voracek had his head DOWN. If his head was up it wouldnt have been a head shot. Get over it.
- poisondhearts37

is gagne back from his millionth concussion yet?
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Mar 7 @ 7:28 PM ET
Kronwall isnt that much bigger than Voracek. Voracek had his head DOWN. If his head was up it wouldnt have been a head shot. Get over it.
- poisondhearts37


size is not a factor

head down is only a factor if it's immediately before the hit, he had his head down well before contact
Pixote Andolini
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.23.2007

Mar 7 @ 7:30 PM ET
Kromwall is one of the dirtiest players in the league with that exact play. He tried it a couple of times earlier in the game and missed. Head contact aside, it's actually technically a 'clean' hit. The thing that makes it dirty though is every defenseman that plays hockey at an organized level can execute this hit regularly but they choose not to. The only skill involved in a hit like that is baiting the winger on the breakout into thinking he's backing up and then zooming in to connect just as the player gets the puck and has barely had a chance to turn forward. This isn't an example of "gee Voracek needs to keep his head up on that play" - Voracek has no chance on the play - just the way Kromwall has designed it. He does this hit time and time again. Ask yourself why is it that Kromwall is the only defenseman consistently making this play? Is he just that above and beyond the skill level of all of the other defensemen in the league to be able to execute it? Kromwall shows absolutely zero respect to the players of the game and to the game itself when he consistently makes these types of plays, see Havlat, Martin. Taking the instigator rule out would help deter these types of plays.
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