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JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Mar 7 @ 2:40 PM ET
most of that money goes towards Myers raise and the two scrubs brought up next year to fill the empty roster spots
- homiedclown


True.

Ennis, Kaleta, and maybe Brennan are the only RFAs that would affect the Sabres.

I read somewhere that they will have 5-7M in space even with Myers raise.
SabreHess
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Twitter @SabreHess
Joined: 06.21.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:40 PM ET
most of that money goes towards Myers raise and the two scrubs brought up next year to fill the empty roster spots
- homiedclown


And the raises to Ennis and Kaleta. Though PK's raise should be minimal
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 7 @ 2:42 PM ET
And the raises to Ennis and Kaleta. Though PK's raise should be minimal
- SabreHess

they will have enough money to get one impact player this off season and a lot of questions to answer for the following season

JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Mar 7 @ 2:43 PM ET
they will have enough money to get one impact player this off season and a lot of questions to answer for the following season
- homiedclown


yea but they can make trades and get rid of salary.

I personally only think the chance of Roy being with the sabres on opening day next year as 35% tops.

Leopold and Roy are probably the most likely to be traded this summer IMO.

I too think that stafford and sekera will stay.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:46 PM ET
most of that money goes towards Myers raise and the two scrubs brought up next year to fill the empty roster spots
- homiedclown


We have 6.6M to fill 5 spots, not including Ennis raise.
SabresFaninIndiana
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Bananaville, IN
Joined: 12.16.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:47 PM ET
yea but they can make trades and get rid of salary.

I personally only think the chance of Roy being with the sabres on opening day next year as 35% tops.

Leopold and Roy are probably the most likely to be traded this summer IMO.

I too think that stafford and sekera will stay.

- JVince117

i say hold leo until the deadline next year..

Roy should be gone but darcy is going to want to win the trade so i would put him at still being here at 65%.
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Mar 7 @ 2:47 PM ET
And the raises to Ennis and Kaleta. Though PK's raise should be minimal
- SabreHess


Gotta increase his salary so he can get a bigger room for his legos
SabreHess
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Twitter @SabreHess
Joined: 06.21.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:49 PM ET
Kaleta is only eligible for a minimum of 105% of his current contract per the CBA, which would mean the lowest amount the Sabres could sign Kaleta for is $1.02 million.

Me personally, If PK's agent indicates that he wants significantly more than that, closer to 1.5 or more, I'd either lowball him and have him reject the qualifying offer, or just refuse to qualify him entirely.

He's a nice piece, but the Sabres can win without him.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Mar 7 @ 2:49 PM ET
We have 6.6M to fill 5 spots, not including Ennis raise.
- theblueandgold


CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Thomas Vanek ($7.142m) / Derek Roy ($4.000m) / Jason Pominville ($5.300m)
Ville Leino ($4.500m) / Cody Hodgson ($1.666m) / Drew Stafford ($4.000m)
Nathan Gerbe ($1.433m) / Tyler Ennis ($1.550m) / Patrick Kaleta ($1.050m)
Cody McCormick ($1.200m) / Matt Ellis ($0.525m) / Corey Tropp ($0.700m)

DEFENSEMEN
Tyler Myers ($5.500m) / Robyn Regehr ($4.020m)
Christian Ehrhoff ($4.000m) / Jordan Leopold ($3.000m)
Andrej Sekera ($2.750m) / Mike Weber ($0.950m)

GOALTENDERS
Ryan Miller ($6.250m) / Jhonas Enroth ($0.675m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,212,856; BONUSES: $925,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $4,087,144

I gave Ennis a raise to 1.55M and Kaleta a raise to 1.05M

That leaves us with 4M...
Full Throttle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.21.2008

Mar 7 @ 2:52 PM ET
Whats wrong with the evidence I used. You're trying to make it sound like Stastny isnt worth 6.6M yet we have a player on our team making 7.14M thats contributing less.

Stastny is a quality center and he can be a true #1. I have no doubts that if Stastny played on a line with Vanek and Pommer he would excel. Stastny is available. The Avalanche have a lot of depth at the C position coming through their pipelines, especially with that trade they just pulled with SJ getting Sgarbossa who leads the OHL this year. When the Stewart for Johnson trade was made last year out of the blue Stastny's dad even talked about how it set the team back and they were unhappy.

- theblueandgold



Any #1 center would excel on that line.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 7 @ 2:52 PM ET
Any #1 center would excel on that line.
- Full Throttle

richard park is a free agent
Full Throttle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.21.2008

Mar 7 @ 2:53 PM ET
Kaleta is only eligible for a minimum of 105% of his current contract per the CBA, which would mean the lowest amount the Sabres could sign Kaleta for is $1.02 million.

Me personally, If PK's agent indicates that he wants significantly more than that, closer to 1.5 or more, I'd either lowball him and have him reject the qualifying offer, or just refuse to qualify him entirely.

He's a nice piece, but the Sabres can win without him.

- SabreHess



I don't see PK asking for Gerbe Money
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Mar 7 @ 2:53 PM ET
richard park is a free agent
- homiedclown


So is Jonathan Cheechoo and Marek Svatos!
Full Throttle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.21.2008

Mar 7 @ 2:54 PM ET
richard park is a free agent
- homiedclown



not a #1 center
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Mar 7 @ 2:55 PM ET
richard park is a free agent
- homiedclown


We forgot that Hecht's money is coming off the books too.

Will Kotalik and Morrisonn not being in the AHL have any affect on our salary?
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Mar 7 @ 2:56 PM ET
not a #1 center
- Full Throttle


Ek disagrees.
Full Throttle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.21.2008

Mar 7 @ 2:56 PM ET
Ek disagrees.
- Gunner Staal



that proves my point 100%
CoHo_to_B-Lo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: East Amherst, NY
Joined: 02.29.2012

Mar 7 @ 2:57 PM ET
We forgot that Hecht's money is coming off the books too.

Will Kotalik and Morrisonn not being in the AHL have any affect on our salary?

- JVince117



Hecht is on IR he doesnt count against our cap.
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Mar 7 @ 2:57 PM ET
not a #1 center
- Full Throttle


not to be a d!ck but...


YA DON'T SAY!!??

There is no other center available besides Stastny that we could realistically pry away from his team without majorly overpaying. Not only that... .But Stastny is signed for another what 3-4 years? Getzlaf is a free agent after next year.

Spezza isn't being moved
Staal isn't being moved
Backstrom has a full NTC and now has concussion issues
Lecavalier is too expensive and declining (he would be the next highest % to move)

Colin Smith is a RFA
Robidas could be available but no one likes him
Olli Jokinen is a cheap free agent center but will be the most sought after in UFA

Am I forgetting anyone?
JVince117
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfried, Let's go Roy... Eye of the Tiger! , AK
Joined: 02.17.2012

Mar 7 @ 2:58 PM ET
Hecht is on IR he doesnt count against our cap.
- CoHo_to_B-Lo


his salary the first half of the year did count against us.

but basically we don't have to see his 3.525 and have to work around it next year.
SabreHess
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Twitter @SabreHess
Joined: 06.21.2011

Mar 7 @ 2:58 PM ET
I don't see PK asking for Gerbe Money
- Full Throttle


Nor should he, they match effort but Gerbe dwarfs Kaleta's point totals.

This is probably an unpopular stance but I think the Sabres 4th line could use a tad more offense punch to it. I'd like to see a line of :

Foligno-McCormick-Tropp

Ellis can be the 13th forward or be buried in the minors and Kaleta can be non-qualified. It's a cheaper line with more offensive upside.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 7 @ 3:00 PM ET
We forgot that Hecht's money is coming off the books too.

Will Kotalik and Morrisonn not being in the AHL have any affect on our salary?

- JVince117

no
theblueandgold
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Denzel, WA
Joined: 03.05.2009

Mar 7 @ 3:00 PM ET
I dont like Myers at 5.5M already, wish he wouldve signed a shorter term say 3 year deal worth 3.5-4M cap hit and then cashed out when I think he will be at his best.
Full Throttle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.21.2008

Mar 7 @ 3:01 PM ET
not to be a d!ck but...


YA DON'T SAY!!??

There is no other center available besides Stastny that we could realistically pry away from his team without majorly overpaying. Not only that... .But Stastny is signed for another what 3-4 years? Getzlaf is a free agent after next year.

Spezza isn't being moved
Staal isn't being moved
Backstrom has a full NTC and now has concussion issues
Lecavalier is too expensive and declining (he would be the next highest % to move)

Colin Smith is a RFA
Robidas could be available but no one likes him
Olli Jokinen is a cheap free agent center but will be the most sought after in UFA

Am I forgetting anyone?

- JVince117



So what you are saying is that a team with huge cap space would be willing to ship out its #1 center, for a #2 center, a #4 center and a draft pick. Instead of trying to build around the guy, they would instead be willing to dismantle their team even further and backload with Sabre rejects and prospects.

Did I follow your logic correctly?
Full Throttle
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 03.21.2008

Mar 7 @ 3:02 PM ET
I dont like Myers at 5.5M already, wish he wouldve signed a shorter term say 3 year deal worth 3.5-4M cap hit and then cashed out when I think he will be at his best.
- theblueandgold



We could have gotten a #1 center for him before that albatross of a contract was signed.
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