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duckyjets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Mar 6 @ 1:15 AM ET
Don Cherry is a hockey visionary, legend, icon, who in one ten-minute rant confirmed everything I've (also) originally thought about him: He's a narrow-minded, xenophobic idiot who turned a personal vendetta into a CBC circus.

Doesn't excuse Burke's actions in the slightest, but Cherry's the one who let this beef run off the tracks.

- Travis Yost

I don't blame cherry at all for attacking burke this guy went behind his back and tried y have his job.

If that doesn't require some kick back nothing does.

I can't stand burke with his sleeves rolled up and tie off trying to give the perception that he's hard at work getting dirty if you will.

He's a big mouth who likes to hear himself talk.

He gave Wilson a 1 year extension in December then fires the guy? The ownership group should be livid that was nothing more then a golden handshake and a waste of the organizations money.



Adam Kirshenblatt
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 6 @ 1:15 AM ET
I started getting fed up with him with, when he was always pro canadian and disliked anything USA,Euro, and for Subbans case, even black.


Cherry is a racist, and he's closed minded.

As a Leaf fan, The most annoying things he's said is things like this, and how he loves Zigomanis and said he was the reason why our PK was terrible, because he wasnt on the team.

- jbold


I have never heard Don Cherry to be a racist or anti-immigrant or anything like that. He may not like how some people from Europe play hockey, but he never said they can't play or be here at all.

I went through this whole thing a couple of weeks ago in this blog: http://www.hockeybuzz.com...st_id=39588&blogger_id=84
Travis Yost
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 01.26.2010

Mar 6 @ 1:19 AM ET
I don't blame cherry at all for attacking burke this guy went behind his back and tried y have his job.

If that doesn't require some kick back nothing does.

I can't stand burke with his sleeves rolled up and tie off trying to give the perception that he's hard at work getting dirty if you will.

He's a big mouth who likes to hear himself talk.

He gave Wilson a 1 year extension in December then fires the guy? The ownership group should be livid that was nothing more then a golden handshake and a waste of the organizations money.

- duckyjets


I don't blame him either. And Coach's Corner perfect time to air it out.

But Cherry's take quickly - and laughably - turned into a xenophobic rant about American hockey and looked more like some witch hunt that an actual response.

jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 1:22 AM ET
I have never heard Don Cherry to be a racist or anti-immigrant or anything like that. He may not like how some people from Europe play hockey, but he never said they can't play or be here at all.

I went through this whole thing a couple of weeks ago in this blog: http://www.hockeybuzz.com...st_id=39588&blogger_id=84

- MasWE

He hated the way Subban plays and hates everything about him, but love other players who are similar type guys..


He hates the way Ovechkin celebrates after goals, but if a Canadian celebrates the same way, he's fine with it.


And what about this?

" “If you want Americans, you got the team. It's the only organization in Canada that cheers when Canada loses and it's an absolute shame."


Oh really? Maybe old man Cherry should do some research. We have more Canadians then Americans. Is Cherry forgetting we have Canadians on the team?


You know, those good old "Western Boys" that he ALWAYS goes on about. Always showing highlights of them working hard, blocking shots, and putting their body on the line?

But then when it comes to Burke, Cherry needed ammunition, so he brought up the Ontario thing. Totally forgetting those "Western Boys" that Cherry always talks about.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Mar 6 @ 1:23 AM ET
So many people who simply dont get the schtick...
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Mar 6 @ 1:23 AM ET
I don't blame him either. And Coach's Corner perfect time to air it out.

But Cherry's take quickly - and laughably - turned into a xenophobic rant about American hockey and looked more like some witch hunt that an actual response.

- Travis Yost

I like Cherry, from the strict standpoint of entertainment. His opinions are often outregous and outright ridiculous. But He on there for that reason and that reason only.

Burke on the Other hand doesnt own his own show. Yet he himself thinks he does. He beaks, beaks , beaks because he loves the attention.

I will say this tho. The only reason Cherry frequently charges Burke is because he knows that he is the one individual who create these interesting confrentations. As annoying as they are.......
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Mar 6 @ 1:24 AM ET
He hated the way Subban plays and hates everything about him, but love other players who are similar type guys..


He hates the way Ovechkin celebrates after goals, but if a Canadian celebrates the same way, he's fine with it.


And what about this?

" “If you want Americans, you got the team. It's the only organization in Canada that cheers when Canada loses and it's an absolute shame."


Oh really? Maybe old man Cherry should do some research. We have more Canadians then Americans. Is Cherry forgetting we have Canadians on the team?


You know, those good old "Western Boys" that he ALWAYS goes on about. Always showing highlights of them working hard, blocking shots, and putting their body on the line?

But then when it comes to Burke, Cherry needed ammunition, so he brought up the Ontario thing. Totally forgetting those "Western Boys" that Cherry always talks about.

- jbold


?......youve bitten hook, line ans sinker....
duckyjets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Mar 6 @ 1:25 AM ET
I don't blame him either. And Coach's Corner perfect time to air it out.

But Cherry's take quickly - and laughably - turned into a xenophobic rant about American hockey and looked more like some witch hunt that an actual response.

- Travis Yost

Your wrong he was talking about not having local talent on the team and said if you want Americans and college players that the leads were the team to watch. He didn't sat anything anti American your making things up. He was simply stating the obvious
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 1:27 AM ET
I like Cherry, from the strict standpoint of entertainment. His opinions are often outregous and outright ridiculous. But He on there for that reason and that reason only.

Burke on the Other hand doesnt own his own show. Yet he himself thinks he does. He beaks, beaks , beaks because he loves the attention.

I will say this tho. The only reason Cherry frequently charges Burke is because he knows that he is the one individual who create these interesting confrentations. As annoying as they are.......

- vancity787

Totally opposite, actually. Burke doesn't love the media anymore, not in Toronto, at least.

You wouldnt know because it's more of a Toronto Media thing, but Burke declines interviews all the time, and he's declined CBC interviews all the time.

The only time he's active with interviews, is when he has to say something. Trade deadline, coaching change, trades.

Other then that, you see GM's get interviewed after injuries and things like that, but not Burke, because he truly hates the Toronto media.
duckyjets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Mar 6 @ 1:28 AM ET
Burke is a bully an arrogant man.

I can't stand him and I love cherry he's the best.
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Mar 6 @ 1:28 AM ET
There is only one way to settle this....Steel cage match between the two with the special guest referee being Ron Wilson.
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 1:29 AM ET
Burke is a bully an arrogant man.

I can't stand him and I love cherry he's the best.

- duckyjets

Well, that's ironic.
Travis Yost
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 01.26.2010

Mar 6 @ 1:29 AM ET
Your wrong he was talking about not having local talent on the team and said if you want Americans and college players that the leads were the team to watch. He didn't sat anything anti American your making things up. He was simply stating the obvious
- duckyjets

He corrolated having American players to Brian Burke's recent four year run of utility, then used the success of teams with Ontario players (e.g. St. Louis) to imply that Ontario talent was inherently superior.

Of course, he ignored two other statistics: One, that teams like the Columbus Blue Jackets(six) have plenty of players, too. Two, that the Toronto Maple Leafs have the most Ontario-born players in system.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 6 @ 1:30 AM ET
Burke is a bully an arrogant man.

I can't stand him and I love cherry he's the best.

- duckyjets

someone's got a man-crush
duckyjets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Mar 6 @ 1:31 AM ET
Well, that's ironic.
- jbold

Not really I think cherry is a honest person he's not a rat like burke
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 1:31 AM ET
Not really I think cherry is a honest person he's not a rat like burke
- duckyjets

Even more ironic.
Feeling Glucky?
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tanktown, ON
Joined: 10.08.2008

Mar 6 @ 1:32 AM ET
Not really I think cherry is a honest person he's not a rat like burke
- duckyjets

Adam Kirshenblatt
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 6 @ 1:32 AM ET
He corrolated having American players to Brian Burke's recent four year run of utility, then used the success of teams with Ontario players (e.g. St. Louis) to imply that Ontario talent was inherently superior.

Of course, he ignored two other statistics: One, that teams like the Columbus Blue Jackets(six) have plenty of players, too. Two, that the Toronto Maple Leafs have the most Ontario-born players in system.

- Travis Yost


Lets face it, none of them actually matter if they aren't with the big team. That's the way Leaf Nation works
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 1:33 AM ET
Lets face it, none of them actually matter if they aren't with the big team. That's the way Leaf Nation works
- MasWE

It does matter, because Cherry is basically implying that Burke dislikes Ontario born players and avoids them. Which isn't true, because his drafting proves that wrong.
duckyjets
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.11.2007

Mar 6 @ 1:34 AM ET
He corrolated having American players to Brian Burke's recent four year run of utility, then used the success of teams with Ontario players (e.g. St. Louis) to imply that Ontario talent was inherently superior.

Of course, he ignored two other statistics: One, that teams like the Columbus Blue Jackets(six) have plenty of players, too. Two, that the Toronto Maple Leafs have the most Ontario-born players in system.

- Travis Yost

Yeah so......its the truth.

Burke signs Americans because that's where he has pull and its not working.

Cherry simply stated the obvious burke hasn't said sheeeyat back because he knows he can't win this fight

chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Mar 6 @ 1:35 AM ET
Even more ironic.
- jbold


Thats not irony my friend...
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 1:35 AM ET
Yeah so......its the truth.

Burke signs Americans because that's where he has pull and its not working.

Cherry simply stated the obvious burke hasn't said sheeeyat back because he knows he can't win this fight

- duckyjets



Hows your man crush?

The awkward moment when you realize Burke has more Canadians then Americans on this team.
keatondixon
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: My comments express my views and Eklund's views ...everything I say Eklund agrees with 100%
Joined: 12.11.2008

Mar 6 @ 1:36 AM ET
It does matter, because Cherry is basically implying that Burke dislikes Ontario born players and avoids them. Which isn't true, because his drafting proves that wrong.
- jbold

Burke only gets stiff for American players...always has, always will
jbold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Raymond adds sandpaper to the Leafs- FakePartofMe, ON
Joined: 07.18.2010

Mar 6 @ 1:36 AM ET
Burke only gets stiff for American players...always has, always will
- keatondixon

Show me proof.

He tried to get Tavares, and tries to get Nash, he's most likely tried to get Getzlaf.

He fired an American coach, hired a Canadian one, and a Canadian assistant.

Most of management is also Canadian.

(From another Hockey Forum)

Since he took over in November 2008, here are the FACTS:

59 Players Have Been Brought IN (some may not have played at all, i.e. Kolzig, but are included to see what kind of players he's bringing in)

Of those 59 players:

35 are Canadian
15 are American
9 are from other countries.

Of those 35 Canadians 9 are Ontario born (only 6 shy of the TOTAL US born players brought in)
Adam Kirshenblatt
Location: Thornhill, ON
Joined: 09.15.2005

Mar 6 @ 1:43 AM ET
It does matter, because Cherry is basically implying that Burke dislikes Ontario born players and avoids them. Which isn't true, because his drafting proves that wrong.
- jbold


What i mean is, to you and me it will likely matter. But to the general public, who only see the big team play, will they care that they have the most Ontario born players in their system?

Whether you agree with it or not, the likelihood is they won't

and again, I'm not saying he or Cherry is right. I'm just pointing out the optics of everything
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