the oil need 3 things...
Solid defender
physical top 6 player
goalie
then they might make the playoffs.

Is it just me or is MacIntyre faster than Smyth?
I thought Renney would have learned from Quinns mistake by putting JF on a line with Hemmer, why would he even try Petrell with NUGE and Eberle?

IMO management should look at the Ranger/Bruins and build a similar team, a strong defence/goalies and physical forwards that can score.
- Killbot460

Sorry to say it, but you guys need a Burrows type player to play with Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins.

The way I see it, they play similar to the Sedins. They are incredibly talented, but don't play with an edge. In comes a Burrows and they have a lot more ice to play with, which is scary when you think about it.

the oil need 3 things...
Solid defender
physical top 6 player
goalie
then they might make the playoffs.

Is it just me or is MacIntyre faster than Smyth?
I thought Renney would have learned from Quinns mistake by putting JF on a line with Hemmer, why would he even try Petrell with NUGE and Eberle?

IMO management should look at the Ranger/Bruins and build a similar team, a strong defence/goalies and physical forwards that can score.
- Killbot460

I agree with the 3 needs. Why not try Petrell, Smyth didn't work, Eager should get more of a chance, or maybe even Jones. Other than those guys there is no one else. That is why we need the tough top 6 winger, to fill that position and not put 4th liners out of their league.

I agree with the 3 needs. Why not try Petrell, Smyth didn't work, Eager should get more of a chance, or maybe even Jones. Other than those guys there is no one else. That is why we need the tough top 6 winger, to fill that position and not put 4th liners out of their league.
- abware

I could see Jones working out on the top 6. He's physical, he can agitate at times, and most importantly he can chip in offensively.

I could see Jones working out on the top 6. He's physical, he can agitate at times, and most importantly he can chip in offensively.
- BurrowsBuries

It can't hurt to try him out.

Sorry to say it, but you guys need a Burrows type player to play with Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins.

The way I see it, they play similar to the Sedins. They are incredibly talented, but don't play with an edge. In comes a Burrows and they have a lot more ice to play with, which is scary when you think about it.
- BurrowsBuries

I think they need a bigger more physical guy on that line. Someone more like Kassian, doesn't need elite skill, but able to play top 6 and intimidate and send a message when needed.

So you're 20 congrats on your pubic hair and balls dropping!! SUCCESS!!!
- undisputed_8821

Yeah you never insult anyone...

I love it how ppl who lose arguments on here instantly call you young or lacking knowledge the try and come on here and tell the guy who is right to calm down and make it sound like it is his fault for the error!! ALEDDO it is OK to admit when you're WRONG I mean I am 1000000000% certain I am older, more mature and have FAR more knowledge than you! SO take your lumps and move on!!
- undisputed_8821

yet to fukking stupid to track a conversation and know who said what to you....

So you're 20 congrats on your pubic hair and balls dropping!! SUCCESS!!!
- undisputed_8821

Just to prove a point:


Saturday @ 11:03 AM ET

AGAIN Myers is NOT worth a 1st overall pick!!! Sorry if he was he would have been drafted 1st overall in his own draft year!!! God you guys are thick!!
- undisputed_8821

you are the first to toss insults at people...this post is midway in the second page and not a single insult had been used to that point.

I think they need a bigger more physical guy on that line. Someone more like Kassian, doesn't need elite skill, but able to play top 6 and intimidate and send a message when needed.
- abware

Eager. He is fast enough, big enough and skilled enough to complete a play. Is also not afraid to drop the gloves and can check like a demon. I think he could be a 15 goal scorer.

I would use Jones on the third line and Hordi and Petrell on the 4th.

Hall.Nuge.Hemmer
Eager.Gag.Ebs
Jones.Horc.Smytty
Petrell.Bel.Hordi

Sorry to say it, but you guys need a Burrows type player to play with Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins.

The way I see it, they play similar to the Sedins. They are incredibly talented, but don't play with an edge. In comes a Burrows and they have a lot more ice to play with, which is scary when you think about it.
- BurrowsBuries

I think that Nuge plays with more of an edge than the Sedins...I've seen him cut back to lay the body in the offensive zone. The kids got some guts. once he gets some meat he is gonna be a real beauti...

Sorry to say it, but you guys need a Burrows type player to play with Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins.

The way I see it, they play similar to the Sedins. They are incredibly talented, but don't play with an edge. In comes a Burrows and they have a lot more ice to play with, which is scary when you think about it.
- BurrowsBuries

I agree with a player that has a edge to his game... but the nucks would never trade Burrows to Edmonton.

I hope the oilers could make a pitch or even RFA offer for Chris Stewart. Regardless they need someone that can score goals that brings a bit of size and grit in the top 6

Eager. He is fast enough, big enough and skilled enough to complete a play. Is also not afraid to drop the gloves and can check like a demon. I think he could be a 15 goal scorer.

I would use Jones on the third line and Hordi and Petrell on the 4th.

Hall.Nuge.Hemmer
Eager.Gag.Ebs
Jones.Horc.Smytty
Petrell.Bel.Hordi
- OilHorse

As I said earlier he needs to be given a fair chance there. Now is the perfect time to try out line combos. If he doesn't work oh well try someone else, if no one works then we know we have to go out and get someone else. I'm still hoping PRV develops into that role.

I agree with the 3 needs. Why not try Petrell, Smyth didn't work, Eager should get more of a chance, or maybe even Jones. Other than those guys there is no one else. That is why we need the tough top 6 winger, to fill that position and not put 4th liners out of their league.
- abware

guess it doesn't hurt to try, but he's no better than a 4th line checker/pk'r.

IMO the forwards are fine but they need to fill in a 2nd liner, if i was in charge id be willing to move 1st rounder, PRV, Omark, Hamilton, Musil and other prospects.

i wonder if the oil could steal John Carlson, Michal Neuvirth, and 1st for, Our first PRV, Musil.

Then maybe Try to make a move for chris stewart

Pipe dream lines

Hall/NUGE/Eberle
Stew/Gaga/Hemmer
Eager/Horc/Omark
Jones/lander/Petrell-Goon

Whits/Carlson
Smid/Schultz
Sutton/Petry-Potter

PS (frank) Smyth... he can be a coach

guess it doesn't hurt to try, but he's no better than a 4th line checker/pk'r.

IMO the forwards are fine but they need to fill in a 2nd liner, if i was in charge id be willing to move 1st rounder, PRV, Omark, Hamilton, Musil and other prospects.

i wonder if the oil could steal John Carlson, Michal Neuvirth, and 1st for, Our first PRV, Musil.

Then maybe Try to make a move for chris stewart

Pipe dream lines

Hall/NUGE/Eberle
Stew/Gaga/Hemmer
Eager/Horc/Omark
Jones/lander/Petrell-Goon

Whits/Carlson
Smid/Schultz
Sutton/Petry-Potter

PS (frank) Smyth... he can be a coach
- Killbot460

For the 3rd line I'd way rather have Smyth than Omark, 2nd line vice versa.
Smid/Schultz would be a great shut down pair, not a lot of offence though.
It would be tough to give up on PRV this early, I still think he has a high potential and if he can play physical could easily fill the top 6 hole. I know you and Pilgor have a blind hate for the guy, but he has never been given a fair chance to prove himself on a top line. If he could be moved and bring in a proven top 6 physical winger or part of a package for a top pair D-man than it would be worth it though.

guess it doesn't hurt to try, but he's no better than a 4th line checker/pk'r.

IMO the forwards are fine but they need to fill in a 2nd liner, if i was in charge id be willing to move 1st rounder, PRV, Omark, Hamilton, Musil and other prospects.

i wonder if the oil could steal John Carlson, Michal Neuvirth, and 1st for, Our first PRV, Musil.

Then maybe Try to make a move for chris stewart

Pipe dream lines

Hall/NUGE/Eberle
Stew/Gaga/Hemmer
Eager/Horc/Omark
Jones/lander/Petrell-Goon

Whits/Carlson
Smid/Schultz
Sutton/Petry-Potter

PS (frank) Smyth... he can be a coach
- Killbot460

Omark on our 3rd? Better to trade him instead of PRV.

I see more chemistry with Hall.Nuge.Hemmer

I don't see why you have such a boner for Stewart...he has fallen far this year after 2 28 goal campaigns.

That trade with Wash is not very good. Carlson is not overly offensive (decent but not superior offensive numbers), not overly defensive (not a hitter, not a strong shot blocker, a give away machine), Neuvirth is meh and we give up a superior draft pick? PRV has too much upside as far as I am concerned and Musil has not even moved into contention to show his upside.

In recap...No to Stewart. Move Eager in that spot.

No to the Wash trade.

We draft Murray...and hopefully one of these prospects steps it up in the summer...there are a few UFAs out there to fill some blanks...

As I said earlier he needs to be given a fair chance there. Now is the perfect time to try out line combos. If he doesn't work oh well try someone else, if no one works then we know we have to go out and get someone else. I'm still hoping PRV develops into that role.
- abware

i can agree with you there.

i like PRV, he is a mature young man...he has never been given the opportunity to succeed like the other wunderkids that team has used.

Get him on a line with Gags and Hemmer, I liked the chemistry between Hemmer and PRV while they were together. Gags is a good gritty players to go with them.

I still love to see a line of Jones, Eager and Horc...lotsa crash-bang and puck possession potential.

Hall.Nuge.Ebs have always had chemistry

Belanger with Hordi and Petrell another energy line set up to get possession and smash it around.

thats the problem with oil fans..... they don't wanna give up anything to get anything. lets go play nhl 12

For the 3rd line I'd way rather have Smyth than Omark, 2nd line vice versa.
Smid/Schultz would be a great shut down pair, not a lot of offence though.
It would be tough to give up on PRV this early, I still think he has a high potential and if he can play physical could easily fill the top 6 hole. I know you and Pilgor have a blind hate for the guy, but he has never been given a fair chance to prove himself on a top line. If he could be moved and bring in a proven top 6 physical winger or part of a package for a top pair D-man than it would be worth it though.
- abware

i don't hate him, i think management (frank)ed him and omark. Thing is Omark loves the corners and i just have a feeling Omark needs to play with an eager type and Horc well Horc is horc and thats what he is

Sorry to say it, but you guys need a Burrows type player to play with Eberle and Nugent-Hopkins.

The way I see it, they play similar to the Sedins. They are incredibly talented, but don't play with an edge. In comes a Burrows and they have a lot more ice to play with, which is scary when you think about it.
- BurrowsBuries

Omark on our 3rd? Better to trade him instead of PRV.

I see more chemistry with Hall.Nuge.Hemmer

I don't see why you have such a boner for Stewart...he has fallen far this year after 2 28 goal campaigns.

That trade with Wash is not very good. Carlson is not overly offensive (decent but not superior offensive numbers), not overly defensive (not a hitter, not a strong shot blocker, a give away machine), Neuvirth is meh and we give up a superior draft pick? PRV has too much upside as far as I am concerned and Musil has not even moved into contention to show his upside.

In recap...No to Stewart. Move Eager in that spot.

No to the Wash trade.

We draft Murray...and hopefully one of these prospects steps it up in the summer...there are a few UFAs out there to fill some blanks...
- OilHorse

top 5 pick for how many years in a row.... Stewart/Clowe is what this team needs, no more wussycats. He fell of his pace cause he needs a play maker, he's not an elite player, he's a great support player. Also a great character guy that stands up for his players. Thats needed besides Hordi. Eager in the top 6.... He's a 3rd liner at best, and PRV is soft and always will be its just the way he plays. Carlson is a top pair dman something the oilers haven't had since whitney hurt his ankle the first time. And he will have more giveaways since he always has the puck, similar to gilbert. Smid/Peckham will go d to d and let gilbert make the play cause they can't make an outlet pass. And those d prospects are at least 2 years from making an impact

thats the problem with oil fans..... they don't wanna give up anything to get anything. lets go play nhl 12
- Killbot460

I don't believe in trading just to trade.

i don't need to win every trade as long as I am improving the team through the trade but moving guys to do nothing of value is useless.

thats the problem with oil fans..... they don't wanna give up anything to get anything. lets go play nhl 12
- Killbot460

If the team makes a trade that fills a hole, without selling the future I'm all for it, but to move our 1st and PRV for something that may not improve the team short and long term then what is the point. I understand at some point we need to take risks but I dont think it is yet time.

If the team makes a trade that fills a hole, without selling the future I'm all for it, but to move our 1st and PRV for something that may not improve the team short and long term then what is the point. I understand at some point we need to take risks but I dont think it is yet time.
- abware

Carlson is 22, Neuvirth is 23, and Stewart is 24... IMO thats not selling the future and would improve the team needs short and long term

I don't believe in trading just to trade.

i don't need to win every trade as long as I am improving the team through the trade but moving guys to do nothing of value is useless.
- OilHorse

the trades i suggested would prolly help out both teams in the future

top 5 pick for how many years in a row.... Stewart/Clowe is what this team needs, no more wussycats. He fell of his pace cause he needs a play maker, he's not an elite player, he's a great support player. Also a great character guy that stands up for his players. Then need that besides Hordi. Eager in the top 6.... He's a 3rd liner at best, and PRV is soft and always will be its just the way he plays. Carlson is a top pair dman something the oilers haven't had since whitney hurt his ankle the first time. And he will have more giveaways since he always has the puck, similar to gilbert. Smid/Peckham will go d to d and let gilbert make the play cause they can't make an outlet pass. And those d prospects are at least 2 years from making an impact
- Killbot460

Ok Pilgor puppet. ...don;t worry just fukking around with you, but you do seem to mimic his statements

Carlson is not just a little more give than take he is twice. He also is not a shot blocker not a hitter. He is less than Petry. He does not even play as much as Petry.

You have a blind love for Stewart and a blind hate for PRV...