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flyers4487
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Jamison, PA
Joined: 02.15.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:36 PM ET
sure glad there are no afternoon games this weekend
- mydoglicks

I wish there wernt any more week night games, after lastnights game my buddy convinced me to go to the bar his gf works at...we got free drinks all night and ended up crashing at her place in center city, I woke up at 7 am and had to drive right to work, im still in my clothes from lastnight, flyers jersey too and I feel like death
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 2 @ 12:39 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: 3/2/12
- bmeltzer


Could Kimmo Timonen ever be considered to have his number raised as a Flyer? Could be a silly question to some but the Flyers have had very little luck by find a true number 1 goaltender and it's starting to look the same with Flyers defenseman. In the interest of Mark Howe Day coming, Only Desjardins and Howe himself seem to be the best defensemen we've had in franchise history. Chris Pronger also could have been considered one but his career here was cut short, which only leaving Timonen next in line.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:41 PM ET
Could Kimmo Timonen ever be considered to have his number raised as a Flyer? Could be a silly question to some but the Flyers have had very little luck by find a true number 1 goaltender and it's starting to look the same with Flyers defenseman. In the interest of Mark Howe Day coming, Only Desjardins and Howe himself seem to be the best defensemen we've had in franchise history. Chris Pronger also could have been considered one but his career here was cut short, which only leaving Timonen next in line.
- roenick97

id say the only chance he'd have is if he wins a Cup here
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Mar 2 @ 12:43 PM ET
Time isn't really the problem. Patience is the issue. JVR has basically lost an entire Season to injury. Players are individuals. They develop differently as individuals. It's why examples such as John LeClair have been given. JVR is what 22? There is plenty of time.
- MJL

Blake wheeler...
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:44 PM ET
Could Kimmo Timonen ever be considered to have his number raised as a Flyer? Could be a silly question to some but the Flyers have had very little luck by find a true number 1 goaltender and it's starting to look the same with Flyers defenseman. In the interest of Mark Howe Day coming, Only Desjardins and Howe himself seem to be the best defensemen we've had in franchise history. Chris Pronger also could have been considered one but his career here was cut short, which only leaving Timonen next in line.
- roenick97


You are forgetting about this HOF D-Man

roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 2 @ 12:45 PM ET
id say the only chance he'd have is if he wins a Cup here
- Crimsoninja

I have to agree. The sad part about that is age and the end of his contract is catching up with him. As crazy as this may sound, I hope the Flyers hang on to 6th place (I believe we're in 5th now) and take on a team from the south pacific. Even if that team is the Washington Capitals. In my opinion taking on one of these teams is our best chance at making it to the second round and then we could possibly get on a roll and build from that roll.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:45 PM ET
id say the only chance he'd have is if he wins a Cup here
- Crimsoninja


So no chance eh?
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 2 @ 12:47 PM ET
You are forgetting about this HOF D-Man


- PLindbergh31

Oh, you're right. One of my favourite Dmen ever and forgot him. Same situation as Pronger though, Coffey's time with the Flyers was cut short.

When the heck did he wear the "C" though??
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Mar 2 @ 12:48 PM ET
You are forgetting about this HOF D-Man


- PLindbergh31


Coffee wore the C? I must've burned those tapes in college.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Mar 2 @ 12:49 PM ET
So I just realized in going to te game this Tuesday. Red Wings, Howe ceremony, nice.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:51 PM ET
Oh, you're right. One of my favourite Dmen ever and forgot him. Same situation as Pronger though, Coffey's time with the Flyers was cut short.

When the heck did he wear the "C" though??

- roenick97


97' Sir... I believe when Lindros was injured, he wore the "C".

Coffey was a great offensive defenseman, he was obviously well past his prime when he was in Philadelphia.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:52 PM ET
Coffee wore the C? I must've burned those tapes in college.
- flyguy12


I think he did when Lindros was injured, either that, or that is a picture from a pre-season game. Not sure.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:52 PM ET
Could Kimmo Timonen ever be considered to have his number raised as a Flyer? Could be a silly question to some but the Flyers have had very little luck by find a true number 1 goaltender and it's starting to look the same with Flyers defenseman. In the interest of Mark Howe Day coming, Only Desjardins and Howe himself seem to be the best defensemen we've had in franchise history. Chris Pronger also could have been considered one but his career here was cut short, which only leaving Timonen next in line.
- roenick97

Flyers retire numbers of players who played their key years here that earned them induction into the Hockey Hall of Fame. If Timonen were to be inducted, it may be considered. But is he a HOF caliber defenseman?
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 2 @ 12:54 PM ET
97' Sir... I believe when Lindros was injured, he wore the "C".

Coffey was a great offensive defenseman, he was obviously well past his prime when he was in Philadelphia.

- PLindbergh31

Actually looking at his numbers, his offensive numbers are still pretty good. It must have been the games he was limited to play that may have kept the Flyers impatient with him.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 2 @ 12:56 PM ET
Could Kimmo Timonen ever be considered to have his number raised as a Flyer? Could be a silly question to some but the Flyers have had very little luck by find a true number 1 goaltender and it's starting to look the same with Flyers defenseman. In the interest of Mark Howe Day coming, Only Desjardins and Howe himself seem to be the best defensemen we've had in franchise history. Chris Pronger also could have been considered one but his career here was cut short, which only leaving Timonen next in line.
- roenick97



Jimmy says, "Hello."
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 2 @ 12:56 PM ET

Jimmy says, "Hello."

- Flyskippy

Watson?

I'm 29
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 2 @ 12:58 PM ET
Watson?

I'm 29

- roenick97

If you're going to talk about "franchise history" in a post, your age is no excuse.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:58 PM ET
Watson?

I'm 29

- roenick97


Really?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 12:59 PM ET
Actually looking at his numbers, his offensive numbers are still pretty good. It must have been the games he was limited to play that may have kept the Flyers impatient with him.
- roenick97


He had a good year in 2000 with the Canes. 40 points in 69 games for a 39 year old is a heck of a season.

Coffey had some monster years in Detroit a few years before he got to Philly, he never approached those totals after. Just a case of Father Time. Eventually it catches up to everyone.
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 2 @ 1:00 PM ET
Really?
- tangent_man

Yes, why?
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 2 @ 1:00 PM ET
If you're going to talk about "franchise history" in a post, your age is no excuse.
- Flyskippy

Why not?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 2 @ 1:02 PM ET
Why not?
- roenick97


Because if you're going to say

In the interest of Mark Howe Day coming, Only Desjardins and Howe himself seem to be the best defensemen we've had in franchise history.


then you have to look at ALL the d-men who have been Flyers. Otherwise, you should say, "...we've had in franchise history that I have bothered to research."
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Mar 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
He had a good year in 2000 with the Canes. 40 points in 69 games for a 39 year old is a heck of a season.

Coffey had some monster years in Detroit a few years before he got to Philly, he never approached those totals after. Just a case of Father Time. Eventually it catches up to everyone.

- PLindbergh31

Paul Coffey is the reason why I'm a Flyers fan today. As some know I'm from the Windsor/Detroit area and he was a pretty big deal. When he left Detroit and had a short stint Hartford, I followed to Philly. Once anyone has gotten into the habit of watching Lindros and LeClair play, who could leave?
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 2 @ 1:03 PM ET
He had a good year in 2000 with the Canes. 40 points in 69 games for a 39 year old is a heck of a season.

Coffey had some monster years in Detroit a few years before he got to Philly, he never approached those totals after. Just a case of Father Time. Eventually it catches up to everyone.

- PLindbergh31


lindros ended his career...as a teammate.

also, pretty sure that coffey pic is from a preseason game. brind'amour always wore the c when eric was out iirc.
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Mar 2 @ 1:04 PM ET
Yes, why?
- roenick97


Didn't think you had that many years in your rear view.
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