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bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:29 AM ET
Of course im paying...Im paying the rising ticket costs to games and so on.
- Philly1980

When the team pays to the cap no matter what, no individual player's salary affects your costs.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 2 @ 11:30 AM ET
Ahh. I have stopped listening to WIP (don't tell Glen!) and don't read the comments elsewhere. So I didn't realize that had moved into some people's view of reality. Like I said, dolts!

For a light-hearted addition to today's interactions. We were tweeting stupid things people yell during the game...

Hit somebody! (when they are on the PK)
Stand em up at the blueline (they apparently do not understand the interference rule)
HAND PASS!!! (when the guy is in his defensive zone.)

feel free to add your own.

- bodiva88


there was a play in the Sharks game where Kubina had the puck inside the zone with a guy maybe 5 feet in front of him and instead of taking the shot he held the puck and eventually put it down low. Tim tweeted something to the effect that Kubina should have blasted the puck. I responded with yeah so he could have hit the sharks shin pad and had the puck go back for an odd man break.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:30 AM ET
I'm not talking about the people here who were being tongue in cheek about it -- I'm talking about ones that actually believed it.
- bmeltzer


Wow people actually believed that? We were all joking about JVR avoiding the trade deadline. Tough season for the guy. Hindsight is 20/20 with that contract. I have no doubt he could and probably will live up to it but if the negotiations had occurred later it would have been for less time and less money.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:31 AM ET
Dude if im going to pay 50$ a ticket to sit in the last god damn row...i want to see jvr (frank)ing playing like simmonds...i want the kid to do well dont get me wrong. I seriously think he lacks that fire.
- Philly1980

Which was obvious on the play on which he got hurt. Throws himself in front of shot. Gets foot broken. Realizes he can't get up. Struggles and succeeds to clear zone. What a gutless puke.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 11:31 AM ET
The flyers remind me of the utah jazz. Always in the playoffs.
- Just5


The Stockton & Malone Utah Jazz, with Jerry Sloan. Not this current group of Jazz.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
Which was obvious on the play on which he got hurt. Throws himself in front of shot. Gets foot broken. Realizes he can't get up. Struggles and succeeds to clear zone. What a gutless puke.
- bodiva88


soft
countreeman28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.10.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
jvr's a humongous big bust!
players with heart are whom i lust!
he's soft as ice cream - complete with sprinkles!
(excessive crying can cause early wrinkles)
i pay 50 bucks for crappy seats!
and another 60 for varied fried treats!
i deserve a dude who gives his all!
like the all-time great scottie upshall!
not an o'errated bum who's so entitled
(my love of complaining is plainly unbridled)
he plays the perimeter and looks so weak!
it makes me miss brindy's legendary beak!
you hear the masses, what do they say?
jvr is awful! trade him today!

thank god they're relegated to the comment section,
is this the same case when they vote in elections?
(because there's virtue in patience,
-opposed to instant elations)
with james, it's true, i'll take my chances
while the volume of shrills surely enhances
but you know? it's whatever. keep it up and berate
because all i can figure is that haters gonna hate.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 2 @ 11:33 AM ET
Ill be man enough to admit it...we put a lot of pressure on JVR because he was supposed to be Kane...no matter what some resentment for JVR comes from that...please flame below...thanks
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:34 AM ET
whoa whoa whoa thats not true...i said i see a guy like simmonds who doesnt have a 10th off the skill that jvr have impact on games...sometimes i feel that jvr dissappears...god damn it fine you got me to say it hes no patrick kane we got swindled screw the nhl.....
- Philly1980



I've seen JVR have an impact on games. Most recently the rush where he set up Simmonds for the OT game winner. I've seen JVR have an impact and be the best player on the ice in the playoffs. Last night JVR slides and gives up his body to block a shot, and then from his knees, while in what was probably immense pain, clear the puck from the zone. Not sure how that tranfers to questioning his heart.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:36 AM ET
Ill be man enough to admit it...we put a lot of pressure on JVR because he was supposed to be Kane...no matter what some resentment for JVR comes from that...please flame below...thanks
- Philly1980



In my opinion JVR isn't supposed to be Kane. He's supposed to be JVR. And I'm willing to give him the time to become what JVR can become.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:36 AM ET
The whole "SHOOT IT!" when the player clearly has no shooting lane really gets on my nerves. It's a good thing they don't allow handguns in arenas.

(edit: this is assuming I ever go to a live game)

- bradleyc4

Someone is nearly ready for her first NHL game, isn't she? She was SO cute at the Carnival.

And yes, the Shoot it people make me want to scream bad words.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 2 @ 11:37 AM ET
In my opinion JVR isn't supposed to be Kane. He's supposed to be JVR. And I'm willing to give him the time to become what JVR can become.
- MJL


Time is the problem other guys in his class are developing faster...Logan couture and so on.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:38 AM ET
there was a play in the Sharks game where Kubina had the puck inside the zone with a guy maybe 5 feet in front of him and instead of taking the shot he held the puck and eventually put it down low. Tim tweeted something to the effect that Kubina should have blasted the puck. I responded with yeah so he could have hit the sharks shin pad and had the puck go back for an odd man break.
- nastyflyergirl

Yeah. That seems to be a specialty of some defensemen.

I just remember that Dan McGillis for a while back then used to always be in motion with the puck so his point shots got through and didn't go bouncing back for the inevitable shortie against. I'm more likely to be shouting Move move (which sadly sounds like shoot, I suppose) when they are static on the PP.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:40 AM ET
jvr's a humongous big bust!
players with heart are whom i lust!
he's soft as ice cream - complete with sprinkles!
(excessive crying can cause early wrinkles)
i pay 50 bucks for crappy seats!
and another 60 for varied fried treats!
i deserve a dude who gives his all!
like the all-time great scottie upshall!
not an o'errated bum who's so entitled
(my love of complaining is plainly unbridled)
he plays the perimeter and looks so weak!
it makes me miss brindy's legendary beak!
you hear the masses, what do they say?
jvr is awful! trade him today!

thank god they're relegated to the comment section,
is this the same case when they vote in elections?
(because there's virtue in patience,
-opposed to instant elations)
with james, it's true, i'll take my chances
while the volume of shrills surely enhances
but you know? it's whatever. keep it up and berate
because all i can figure is that haters gonna hate.

- countreeman28

The bard of buzz!
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Mar 2 @ 11:40 AM ET
How many times is Lava going to need to take a time out within the first ten minutes of a game before people start looking at the fact that the coach has habitually failed to get the team ready for the start of a game?
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:40 AM ET
Someone is nearly ready for her first NHL game, isn't she? She was SO cute at the Carnival.

And yes, the Shoot it people make me want to scream bad words.

- bodiva88


Took her to her 2nd AHL game last weekend in Hershey. She kept saying "Go Flyers!"

She's need a little more seasoning in the minors.
jd342
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.08.2012

Mar 2 @ 11:42 AM ET
Time is the problem other guys in his class are developing faster...Logan couture and so on.
- Philly1980


How is time the problem if he's only 22, and in his 3rd full year? Players take time to develop. Some faster than others. He's not a bust if a player drafted ahead or after him develops faster. That doesn't make any sense.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 2 @ 11:42 AM ET
jvr's a humongous big bust!
players with heart are whom i lust!
he's soft as ice cream - complete with sprinkles!
(excessive crying can cause early wrinkles)
i pay 50 bucks for crappy seats!
and another 60 for varied fried treats!
i deserve a dude who gives his all!
like the all-time great scottie upshall!
not an o'errated bum who's so entitled
(my love of complaining is plainly unbridled)
he plays the perimeter and looks so weak!
it makes me miss brindy's legendary beak!
you hear the masses, what do they say?
jvr is awful! trade him today!

thank god they're relegated to the comment section,
is this the same case when they vote in elections?
(because there's virtue in patience,
-opposed to instant elations)
with james, it's true, i'll take my chances
while the volume of shrills surely enhances
but you know? it's whatever. keep it up and berate
because all i can figure is that haters gonna hate.

- countreeman28

Beautiful
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Mar 2 @ 11:42 AM ET
How many times is Lava going to need to take a time out within the first ten minutes of a game before people start looking at the fact that the coach has habitually failed to get the team ready for the start of a game?
- the deaninator


Whats he supposed to do Electro Shock their asses to wake them up?
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:43 AM ET
In my opinion JVR isn't supposed to be Kane. He's supposed to be JVR. And I'm willing to give him the time to become what JVR can become.
- MJL

As in any organization, a team needs diversity in the styles of players on the ice and the personalities of players off the ice. If you had all Hartnells and Simmondses, you'd be dying for skill guys. All Dannys and Gs, dying for physical forces. It's silly to assume that they should all be like each other. Only in desire. You want them all to want it. But how they show it will and should differ from player to player.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:43 AM ET
Took her to her 2nd AHL game last weekend in Hershey. She kept saying "Go Flyers!"

She's need a little more seasoning in the minors.

- bradleyc4

You're wise not to rush her.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:44 AM ET
jvr's a humongous big bust!
players with heart are whom i lust!
he's soft as ice cream - complete with sprinkles!
(excessive crying can cause early wrinkles)
i pay 50 bucks for crappy seats!
and another 60 for varied fried treats!
i deserve a dude who gives his all!
like the all-time great scottie upshall!
not an o'errated bum who's so entitled
(my love of complaining is plainly unbridled)
he plays the perimeter and looks so weak!
it makes me miss brindy's legendary beak!
you hear the masses, what do they say?
jvr is awful! trade him today!

thank god they're relegated to the comment section,
is this the same case when they vote in elections?
(because there's virtue in patience,
-opposed to instant elations)
with james, it's true, i'll take my chances
while the volume of shrills surely enhances
but you know? it's whatever. keep it up and berate
because all i can figure is that haters gonna hate.

- countreeman28


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Mar 2 @ 11:46 AM ET
jvr's a humongous big bust!
players with heart are whom i lust!
he's soft as ice cream - complete with sprinkles!
(excessive crying can cause early wrinkles)
i pay 50 bucks for crappy seats!
and another 60 for varied fried treats!
i deserve a dude who gives his all!
like the all-time great scottie upshall!
not an o'errated bum who's so entitled
(my love of complaining is plainly unbridled)
he plays the perimeter and looks so weak!
it makes me miss brindy's legendary beak!
you hear the masses, what do they say?
jvr is awful! trade him today!

thank god they're relegated to the comment section,
is this the same case when they vote in elections?
(because there's virtue in patience,
-opposed to instant elations)
with james, it's true, i'll take my chances
while the volume of shrills surely enhances
but you know? it's whatever. keep it up and berate
because all i can figure is that haters gonna hate.

- countreeman28


That is pretty impressive. Did you just do that on the cuff?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Mar 2 @ 11:47 AM ET
Took her to her 2nd AHL game last weekend in Hershey. She kept saying "Go Flyers!"

She's need a little more seasoning in the minors.

- bradleyc4


bust
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Mar 2 @ 11:47 AM ET
I like JVR. JVR hurt a lot this year. Glad no trade JVR. Looking forward to next year JVR
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