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OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 1 @ 3:52 PM ET
Just going by what Lavi has said on radio. He said they make adjustments.
- stveshdy


sure, but it doesn't mean the entire system is going to change.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 1 @ 3:54 PM ET
List of PHX defensemen who have played at least 15 games and have logged more PK time than Yandle:

Rusty Klesla
Derek Morris
David Schlemko
Adrian Aucoin
Mike Rozsival
Chris Summers (?!?)
Oliver Ekman-Larsson

then Yandle.

- bradleyc4


So bc he doesnt play PK minutes he is a liability? Maybe bc he logs a ton of minutes (1st by all defenseman) and plays the QB on the PP also.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 1 @ 3:56 PM ET
So bc he doesnt play PK minutes he is a liability? Maybe bc he logs a ton of minutes (1st by all defenseman) and plays the QB on the PP also.
- stveshdy

I wouldn't say it means he's a liability so much as he's not leaned on as heavily as other defensemen for defensive roles.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 1 @ 3:57 PM ET
I wouldn't say it means he's a liability so much as he's not leaned on as heavily as other defensemen for defensive roles.
- BulliesPhan87


To say Yandle doesnt play defense is crazy to me.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 1 @ 3:58 PM ET
To say Yandle doesnt play defense is crazy to me.
- stveshdy


well, that is the position he plays, but you're missing the point. also, do you watch a ton of 'yotes games or something? or is this just perception?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:00 PM ET
well, that is the position he plays, but you're missing the point. also, do you watch a ton of 'yotes games or something? or is this just perception?
- OrangeBlack27

I actually watch games. There is no point thats missing. To say he doesnt play defense or play against other teams top players is not the case. Yandle is a very good defenseman.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:01 PM ET
Seems to be a common thread throughout today's stories.
- rockychocbill

Datsun 510 4-door, manual, pale yellow, black interior. It had been dad's commute to the train station car.

I drove it until I moved into the city. Sold it back to dad (I didn't buy it from him) for first/last/deposit. I think $650. He gave it to little bro who drove it until he couldn't keep it running. He sold it to a mechanic friend for $50. That guy kept him going another 2 years. Then the rust just wasn't escapable any more. Car's name was Demon. But he was a generally dependable little dude.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 1 @ 4:01 PM ET
To say Yandle doesnt play defense is crazy to me.
- stveshdy

Well, I didn't say that, but then again I also don't watch much of the 'yotes. The stats do paint a picture of a very offensive d-man, though.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:02 PM ET
Well, I didn't say that, but then again I also don't watch much of the 'yotes. The stats do paint a picture of a very offensive d-man, though.
- BulliesPhan87


Bc he has good offensive numbers he cant be good defensively?

Back to the Flyers...
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 1 @ 4:02 PM ET
3-1 isles
- flyfan1212


I'll wait for watson to weigh in before I believe this.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Mar 1 @ 4:06 PM ET
Datsun 510 4-door, manual, pale yellow, black interior. It had been dad's commute to the train station car.

I drove it until I moved into the city. Sold it back to dad (I didn't buy it from him) for first/last/deposit. I think $650. He gave it to little bro who drove it until he couldn't keep it running. He sold it to a mechanic friend for $50. That guy kept him going another 2 years. Then the rust just wasn't escapable any more. Car's name was Demon. But he was a generally dependable little dude.

- bodiva88


Yes, I remember you mentioning demon a few weeks ago when we last had this discussion. The 510 was my 3rd and 4th cars. 4 door and then a 2 door I completely modded. Loved that little orange putter.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:06 PM ET
I actually watch games. There is no point thats missing. To say he doesnt play defense or play against other teams top players is not the case. Yandle is a very good defenseman.
- stveshdy


My original point was that Yandle is not counted on to play the tough defensive minutes that Carle is.

You see it differently though, so the people who chart shifts must be doing a poor job because what I see is that he's not counted on to play against the opposition's top forwards.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 1 @ 4:07 PM ET
I'll wait for watson to weigh in before I believe this.
- rockychocbill

yo RCB,
what is your take on the Hodgson trade?

Canucks got rid of the best player in the deal, imo.
Kassian is a goon, maybe goon with some ability, but Hodgson could be a star.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 1 @ 4:09 PM ET
My original point was that Yandle is not counted on to play the tough defensive minutes that Carle is.

You see it differently though, so the people who chart shifts must be doing a poor job because what I see is that he's not counted on to play against the opposition's top forwards.

- OrangeBlack27

stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:10 PM ET
My original point was that Yandle is not counted on to play the tough defensive minutes that Carle is.

You see it differently though, so the people who chart shifts must be doing a poor job because what I see is that he's not counted on to play against the opposition's top forwards.

- OrangeBlack27


Yup. Carle is better bc he plays on the PK and he is a Flyer. No surprise. Yandle is terrible.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:11 PM ET
yo RCB,
what is your take on the Hodgson trade?

Canucks got rid of the best player in the deal, imo.
Kassian is a goon, maybe goon with some ability, but Hodgson could be a star.

- Marc D


kassian's no goon. he's probably somewhere between ben eager and lucic/ott/hartnell. obviously the nucks are hoping closer to the latter.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:11 PM ET
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Mar 1 @ 4:12 PM ET
kassian's no goon. he's probably somewhere between ben eager and lucic/ott/hartnell. obviously the nucks are hoping closer to the latter.
- OrangeBlack27


I heard a Ryane Clowe comparison the other day.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:13 PM ET
Yup. Carle is better bc he plays on the PK and he is a Flyer. No surprise. Yandle is terrible.
- stveshdy


Terrific discussion, big guy!
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 1 @ 4:13 PM ET
Bc he has good offensive numbers he cant be good defensively?

Back to the Flyers...

- stveshdy

I didn't say that, either.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Mar 1 @ 4:13 PM ET
I heard a Ryane Clowe comparison the other day.
- bradleyc4


that's a good one, though i think kassian is probably a bit more reckless than clowe. clowe seems to mix the power and skill with a good deal of control (at least from afar--my perception could be 100% wrong). also, kassian doesn't have any superfluous letters in his name. ryane. get out of here.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Mar 1 @ 4:13 PM ET
Terrific discussion, big guy!
- OrangeBlack27


Okay. Thanks.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 1 @ 4:15 PM ET
I didn't say that, either.
- BulliesPhan87

Will you just pin down what it is you ARE saying?!?

Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Mar 1 @ 4:15 PM ET
Datsun 510 4-door, manual, pale yellow, black interior. It had been dad's commute to the train station car.

I drove it until I moved into the city. Sold it back to dad (I didn't buy it from him) for first/last/deposit. I think $650. He gave it to little bro who drove it until he couldn't keep it running. He sold it to a mechanic friend for $50. That guy kept him going another 2 years. Then the rust just wasn't escapable any more. Car's name was Demon. But he was a generally dependable little dude.

- bodiva88

My parents had a corvair, one of those rear engine deals where the exhaust came into the car.

It poisoned my little brother and me as we rode in the back seat.

That car was a real demon.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Mar 1 @ 4:16 PM ET
Okay. Thanks.
- stveshdy

I think, in the grand scheme of things, Yandle coming here would result in the following, by about December of his first season:

YANDLE SUCKS!

Gentlemen, please continue.
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