Lando plays PP and PK. You also shouldn't measure how good someone is by how many points they get on the PK. Dumbass
- Meeqsb

That was to directly point out that not ONLY Landeskog plays PK...a statement you were basically making by goiing on about how Lando plays PK and so his chances are lessened...well Lando plays PP also, and Henriq plays PK...Henrique has SH points, and they look to be the difference.

So stop with the insults, you are just proving that as soon as you are proven wrong you get petulant like a 4 year old...much like the one Laugh's posted.

Pretty much, but you have to take into account how injury prone a player is as well. RNH may still win the calder, its 50-50 between him and gabe.
- Meeqsb

Suckiest of all is, it wasn't even a big hit that put him out initially. It was a weird stumble that sent him shoulder first into the boards. and Hall got injured earlier on by taking a skate to the head during the (frank)ing warm up skate lol. Oilers players hhave gotten injured in weird ways this year.

I digress anyways. Far too early to call RNH injury prone.

Suckiest of all is, it wasn't even a big hit that put him out initially. It was a weird stumble that sent him shoulder first into the boards. and Hall got injured earlier on by taking a skate to the head during the (frank)ing warm up skate lol. Oilers players hhave gotten injured in weird ways this year.

I digress anyways. Far too early to call RNH injury prone.
- GuyLaDouche

Definitely, even Duchene's injury was just him tweaking his knee on the boards. I agree though.

That was to directly point out that not ONLY Landeskog plays PK...a statement you were basically making by goiing on about how Lando plays PK and so his chances are lessened...well Lando plays PP also, and Henriq plays PK...Henrique has SH points, and they look to be the difference.

So stop with the insults, you are just proving that as soon as you are proven wrong you get petulant like a 4 year old...much like the one Laugh's posted.
- OilHorse

I guess, I still think it goes to RNH or Lando. Henrique is a great player but RNH and lando are in a whole nother league.

For sure For sure. I just dont see what he has that the other 2 dont do better. If he played with lesser players then I think that would help as well.
- Meeqsb

Maybe. But then it should go Nuge's way even more since he has been receiving Top D pairings for much of the season. As has Henriq, but Lando hasn't.

So much to go into it, but the most important piece that the judges will see is that tangible asset...points. The scoring leader has the inside edge.

If all three were like a point apart then other aspects will decide it (maybe Lando's crazy good +/-), or maybe Nuge's ppg%...

I guess, I still think it goes to RNH or Lando. Henrique is a great player but RNH and lando are in a whole nother league.
- Meeqsb

I don/t wanna argue that point cause Nuge is on my team and I love how Lando plays...

Lando is so mature...I loved watching his draft interviews....very articulate and intelligent young man, never would have thought he as born and raised in Swe, there was no accent. He worked hard to learn English to that level. That is devotion.

Henrique has been great... Of course he's in the running for the Calder... He has a 33.3333333333333% chance of winning right now...

Henrique has been great... Of course he's in the running for the Calder... He has a 33.3333333333333% chance of winning right now...
- laughs2907

No foo'

henriq: 25.6%
Lando: 27.4%
Nuge: 36.7%
Everyone else: 10.3%

No foo'

henriq: 25.6%
Lando: 27.4%
Nuge: 36.7%
Everyone else: 10.3%
- OilHorse

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I guess, I still think it goes to RNH or Lando. Henrique is a great player but RNH and lando are in a whole nother league.
- Meeqsb

ok enough arguing you two, i will settle this. We clearly need to take DNA from both players and create some sort of RNH-Landeskog hybrid super player. Then they both win the calder

ok enough arguing you two, i will settle this. We clearly need to take DNA from both players and create some sort of RNH-Landeskog hybrid super player. Then they both win the calder
- ruttager17

as long as there is no name calling we are all good, pure discussion going on.

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- laughs2907

nopes....tru storee

Henrique had 41 points in 54 games. He leads NJ in +/- with +9. He is great defensively and plays on the top pk unit. Not sure how Lando could be having a better rookie year. RNH would probably win if he wasn't injured but he missed a lot of time. Henrique has been arguably the best all around rookie.
- zach parise9

Just to be clear... There is no 'probably'.
Rnh wasnt just leading rookies, hes was among the league leaders.

This conversation wouldnt even be taking place had nuge not gone down.

Fo reals tho, be nice to have a trophy for the oil, but regardless, nuge is the best rookie by a large margin.

ok enough arguing you two, i will settle this. We clearly need to take DNA from both players and create some sort of RNH-Landeskog hybrid super player. Then they both win the calder
- ruttager17

We shall name him Nugeskog, and all will bow to his greatness.

In fairness to the whole who is the better rookie, remember that Henrique is also 21 and had much more experience than either Nuge or Landeskog.

You are from the east so let me say that Lando is a much better all around rookie than Henrique, however they are similar players and both are going to be absolute studs.

But henrique plays with 2 of the top 5 best players in the east on a nightly basis in Kovi and Parise! He better have 41 points in 54 games. If henrique was a dominant face off man then you could give him a shot against lando but he is under 50%.

Dont get me wrong all 3 of these guys are INSANE players, but I dont see henrique winning the calder.
- Meeqsb

I really doubt that Landeskog is better defensively than Henrique. There is a reason he gets top pk time on the 2nd best pk unit. He also leads the league in sh goals and points. Also gets 2nd pp unit. Henrique has also played 10 less games and gotten 1 more point. And whatever man playing with Parise and Kovy helps but when it comes to the calder it won't make a difference. They are all in contention, you have to be stupid to dismiss the leader in points in terms of rookies. I don't know who is going to win it is a toss up at this point. I'm sure you won't see any of this since you are so clearly in love with Landeskog.

They won't win the cup though, they still have Luongo in net. Bruins or Rangers will beat them. And Detroit is better than Vancouver, don't tell me the Canucks are better since they beat Detroit last week. Detroit missed their best forward, Datsyuk.
- Allstarzz

Wtf is a leafs fan even talking about playoffs for? Get there first.

I really doubt that Landeskog is better defensively than Henrique. There is a reason he gets top pk time on the 2nd best pk unit. He also leads the league in sh goals and points. Also gets 2nd pp unit. Henrique has also played 10 less games and gotten 1 more point. And whatever man playing with Parise and Kovy helps but when it comes to the calder it won't make a difference. They are all in contention, you have to be stupid to dismiss the leader in points in terms of rookies. I don't know who is going to win it is a toss up at this point. I'm sure you won't see any of this since you are so clearly in love with Landeskog.
- zach parise9

Landeskog is presently better than Henrique and going forward.

Dubnyk is looking awful

Dubnyk is looking awful
- freelancer

Yann Dani in. Holy fack...Renney actually pulled a goaltender!

Dubnyk is looking awful
- freelancer

The second was bad, but up until the Potter goal they all looked sleepy.

Thank the Blues don't score alot of goals, otherwise this game might've ended poorly.

I think he is middle of the pack, RNH is better offensively and Lando is better defensively. Plus he plays with (frank)ing Parise and Kovi. Gomez could have 41 points playing with them.
- Meeqsb

I hate to argue the RNH for calder because if he keeps it up he will win, but your point of playing with parise and kovi is a non starter.

Kovi 25g 35a 60p 57gp
Parise 23g 29a 52p 61gp
vs
Hall 23g 26a 49p 53gp
Eberle 28g 33a 61p 59gp

so really who is playing with better players?

I really doubt that Landeskog is better defensively than Henrique. There is a reason he gets top pk time on the 2nd best pk unit. He also leads the league in sh goals and points. Also gets 2nd pp unit. Henrique has also played 10 less games and gotten 1 more point. And whatever man playing with Parise and Kovy helps but when it comes to the calder it won't make a difference. They are all in contention, you have to be stupid to dismiss the leader in points in terms of rookies. I don't know who is going to win it is a toss up at this point. I'm sure you won't see any of this since you are so clearly in love with Landeskog.
- zach parise9

Landeskog is the real deal. He is plus 22, has about 90 more hits, is leading all rookies in take aways by double digits at 49, Lando has blocked 1 more shot than Henrique. They both play both PK and PP. Lando being better on the PP and their TOI are identical at 18 min per game.

Its one thing to play with good players, its another thing to play with Parise and Kovi. 2 of the top 10 wingers in the entire league if not top 5. Also centers usually get more points than wingers.

I have center ice and have seen about 30 devils games this year and all of the avs games. both players are similar and Henrique is insanely good, but Lando is better.

Their stats are pretty even, but Lando hits more, shoots more, creates more take aways. Lando is much better defensively whichis denoted by the +/-

If you haven't seen more than 25 avs games this year you really wouldn't understand.

Also I love lando just as much as you have a stiffy for Henrique.

I hate to argue the RNH for calder because if he keeps it up he will win, but your point of playing with parise and kovi is a non starter.

Kovi 25g 35a 60p 57gp
Parise 23g 29a 52p 61gp
vs
Hall 23g 26a 49p 53gp
Eberle 28g 33a 61p 59gp

so really who is playing with better players?
- ALEDDO

Not Landeskog lmao. All 4 of those players are the ELITE ELITE of the NHL. Pure best of the best 1st liners that every team covets.

O'reilly is an amazing 2 way player but more of a 2nd line center and Winnik is a 3rd liner but not a top 6 player at all and Downie is a fringe 2nd liner.

Just not in the same league.