Dude, you preemptively attacked people in this thread for complaining before they complained, then you complain when they respond to what you said. C'mon, man, we're all on the same team...

To your point here though...if PA was only "moved for crap" when Paul Gaustad got a first rounder, then I don't really know what to say. I will say...the Isles get a pass in FA because "FAs don't come here," and now they get a pass on trades because "no one offers anything." I really wish I had all these bulletproof built-in excuses for my job
- UIF

the insecurity of this fanbase is mind blowing....seriously...i respect the passion of everyone in hear but sometimes that leads to blowing things out of proportion. we need three legit nhl dman.. and 2 top 6 forwards..none of them were coming in yesterday..so how can i be dissapointed about something that i new wasn't going to happen. we have to be realistic!! until their is a decesion with the arena..we aint spending jack..so the only thing we can do is develop our own..thats all we got right now..

what two first rounders are you referring to? Because neither PAP or Nabby were bringing back a first rounder. There is absolutely no rumor that a first was even offered for either guy. PAP was maybe bringing back a second, Nabby possibly a third. There is no reason to believe that either guy was bringing back a first.
- Jethro09

if youre discrediting the guy you replied to for assuming pap/nabby would have brought back a 1st because there was no rumor, than ill be the one to discredit you for saying pap would get a 2nd and nabby a 3rd simply because there was never a rumor/offer of that either

with all the defensman from 4-10 in this draft why would you trade your first round pick??
- NYI78

because defensive prospects take 3-4 years to groom into full time NHL players. if you trade for defense, the isles can skip those 3-4 years....

because defensive prospects take 3-4 years to groom into full time NHL players. if you trade for defense, the isles can skip those 3-4 years....
- LetsGoIsles

ok fine..if you can get that deal done go ahead..teams don't trade 20 year old dmen..i can tell you that donovan has been lights out good in bport and dehaan has been great since returning from injury...

Ok I will join the pity party since that is what I do. Garth Snow did a great job getting rid of two wastes, but if PA and or Nabby walk then Snow should hit the road. I was not diappointed in yesterday as Snow has done nothing for this team in a long time. Only person who is smiling is my buddy Wang cause he just saved some money.

Onto Montoya and or DP. Lets face it as much as I hate the guy we all know and the organization knows that DP is dead to this team. He used to be in that 40 years of Islander history video and then the last game I went to no mention of him. He is donesville. As for Montoya he just is not the same player he used to be. I am thinking if the Islanders resign Nabby (which I think will happen) they will release Montoya dn bring up Poulin for the rest of the year. Next year it will be there two and we will be rid of the DP curse.

The guy I will be pissed at if he leaves is PA. I beleive he is playing mind games with the Islanders adn if he walks after next year then we got to question Snow. Not for nothing though PA on any other team I think might be bust just ask Jason Blake
- kasperrko

mind games?? can no one see through his deceiving ways??

and for the exact reason why we should "ask jason blake" how pa might do on another team is the EXACT reason he should have been traded....oh well.

Lets go METS!!!!....oh (frank)

We can agree to disagree.......cause yes saving 1.5 million is something to Wang. Did it really take 60 games to realize these guys were not adding more to this team than say ulstrom or (insert bport dman).
- kindlyrick

lock it up....totally agree....where the hell were you yesterday when that XX douche was around??

the insecurity of this fanbase is mind blowing....seriously...i respect the passion of everyone in hear but sometimes that leads to blowing things out of proportion. we need three legit nhl dman.. and 2 top 6 forwards..none of them were coming in yesterday..so how can i be dissapointed about something that i new wasn't going to happen. we have to be realistic!! until their is a decesion with the arena..we aint spending jack..so the only thing we can do is develop our own..thats all we got right now..
- NYI78

No one was asking for all of the Isles' problems to be solved yesterday, so I don't know what insecure fans you're talking about that expected top-six forwards and top-four d-men coming back. Speaking for myself, I thought the Isles should have been sellers, not buyers, so I certainly didn't expect that return. A couple of high picks that could be flipped in the offseason as part of a package to get a player, or move up in the draft? Yeah, I guess I kind of expected that.

I thought Garth was dealing from a position of strength yesterday for the first time in the rebuild at a trade deadline. He had the best goalie on the market with multiple teams interested, but took him off the market before the bidding even began, and had a forward with many more points than most on the market for "secondary scoring." At the end of the day, he got nothing for either, and didn't re-sign either. If that's a raving success to you, then I guess we can agree to disagree without exiling ourselves from the blog

No one was asking for all of the Isles' problems to be solved yesterday, so I don't know what insecure fans you're talking about that expected top-six forwards and top-four d-men coming back. Speaking for myself, I thought the Isles should have been sellers, not buyers, so I certainly didn't expect that return. A couple of high picks that could be flipped in the offseason as part of a package to get a player, or move up in the draft? Yeah, I guess I kind of expected that.

I thought Garth was dealing from a position of strength yesterday for the first time in the rebuild at a trade deadline. He had the best goalie on the market with multiple teams interested, but took him off the market before the bidding even began, and had a forward with many more points than most on the market for "secondary scoring." At the end of the day, he got nothing for either, and didn't re-sign either. If that's a raving success to you, then I guess we can agree to disagree without exiling ourselves from the blog
- UIF

if they walk then no it wasn't success but we have to wait to see if they resign before you can kill him

if they walk then no it wasn't success but we have to wait to see if they resign before you can kill him
- NYI78

well theres the difference....those that wanted pa and nabby traded were more proactive, you are reactive.

well theres the difference....those that wanted pa and nabby traded were more proactive, you are reactive.
- LetsGoIsles

i would have traded them yesterday for tangable pieces...second and third round picks do not help at this point..i would have set my price...thats all

mind games?? can no one see through his deceiving ways??

and for the exact reason why we should "ask jason blake" how pa might do on another team is the EXACT reason he should have been traded....oh well.

Lets go METS!!!!....oh (frank)
- LetsGoIsles

Dude it is going to be a very long summer. As for PA I joined the trade him band wagon. I honestly do not see him here next year. He is going to make this succesful year go to his head. Someone is going to over pay for him and he will produce about 40 points a year. See on the Island 40 points a year is a super star to us but other teams that is either 3rd line or fourth line time

Dude it is going to be a very long summer. As for PA I joined the trade him band wagon. I honestly do not see him here next year. He is going to make this succesful year go to his head. Someone is going to over pay for him and he will produce about 40 points a year. See on the Island 40 points a year is a super star to us but other teams that is either 3rd line or fourth line time
- kasperrko

what fourth line player gets 40 points? garth defintely took a chance yesterday..we have to see how it plays out..i agree pa is flawed but he is producing

here comes the day after islander trade deadline crying pity party we hate snow and wang fest
- NYI78

You say this as if its not warranted...

what two first rounders are you referring to? Because neither PAP or Nabby were bringing back a first rounder. There is absolutely no rumor that a first was even offered for either guy. PAP was maybe bringing back a second, Nabby possibly a third. There is no reason to believe that either guy was bringing back a first.
- Jethro09

There is also no rumors that say they were going to bring back "maybe a second" or a "third" either? Who knows what they were offered but after what Nashville offered for Gaustad who knows?

what fourth line player gets 40 points? garth defintely took a chance yesterday..we have to see how it plays out..i agree pa is flawed but he is producing
- NYI78

Dude you are the guy who has kept me on my leash for a while but my point basically was on any other team PA would be a third liner more then likely and not put up the numbers he is getting. I like PA I think he is awesome and would love to keep him but if he walks cause of greed or because success is getting to his head then I hope nothing but failure for him. I compared him to Jason Blake cause we praised him he was scoring goals left and right had a career year took the money to play some where else and he fell flat on his face. See the thing is there is no pressure here to win at all. No pressure from the owners no pressure from the coaches or anything. It is easy to play here as long as you keep your mouth shut and know how to skate. That is why guys can have career years as soon as they go to another club they demand results the pressure mounts and certain players fold. I see PA being that type of player

Because nothing's guaranteed......and the isles don't need to wait 3 years for any player to develope......they have enough d prospects now that they can afford to trade this pick


Look at victor hedman......have u heard his name once in 3 years?
- kindlyrick

Quite a few times actually

Dude you are the guy who has kept me on my leash for a while but my point basically was on any other team PA would be a third liner more then likely and not put up the numbers he is getting. I like PA I think he is awesome and would love to keep him but if he walks cause of greed or because success is getting to his head then I hope nothing but failure for him. I compared him to Jason Blake cause we praised him he was scoring goals left and right had a career year took the money to play some where else and he fell flat on his face. See the thing is there is no pressure here to win at all. No pressure from the owners no pressure from the coaches or anything. It is easy to play here as long as you keep your mouth shut and know how to skate. That is why guys can have career years as soon as they go to another club they demand results the pressure mounts and certain players fold. I see PA being that type of player
- kasperrko

your right those are all valid points..blake was a very selfish player though i don't see that in pa..

http://www.nyiskinny.com/2012/02/rolston-i-didnt-play-lot.html


- eichiefs9

Just trying to make himself look better. One of THE worst seasons I've ever seen a veteran player have. For any team.
- potvin05

I agree, honestly one of my least favorite players to ever put a jersey on. Guy looked absolutely disinterested at all times, for him to think for even a second that he has anything left in the tank is absurd. Even more absurd is for any GM to want this guy on their team? Don't these guys watch games of players they're interested in?

top 4 dmen are soo easy to find..look how many were traded yesterday...um..hold on let me count ZERO!!!!!
- NYI78

It almost sounds like you guys think Snow is doing a great job and we're all crazy for questioning him? I find that even more funny than some fans "demands".

It almost sounds like you guys think Snow is doing a great job and we're all crazy for questioning him? I find that even more funny than some fans "demands".
- Cptmjl

no my point is...i don't know what snow is..ii don't think he has any control of spending money. i think his checkbook is locked in wang's vault...

if they walk then no it wasn't success but we have to wait to see if they resign before you can kill him
- NYI78

Just imo, and you're free to disagree, I think it's a very big risk to take counting on the word of an agent, which is why I believe they should have been signed or moved yesterday. If they do both re-sign, and I am asked if I still feel it was too big of a risk, I would still say yes, though obviously I'll be happy that it worked out better than it could have. The trade deadline offered the Isles some leverage in negotiating...sign or be traded. They've lost that leverage, and in fact they ceded some leverage because now it'll look like a pretty big failure if both leave as FAs. I just feel like a month ago a lot more people were saying exactly what I am saying: re-sign them by the deadline or trade them for maximum value. I'm not sure when that became an unrealistic position.

i would have traded them yesterday for tangable pieces...second and third round picks do not help at this point..i would have set my price...thats all
- NYI78

a) where do you get 2nd and 3rd round picks from? why arent prospects or first in the equation?? no offers were made (or at least leaked) that we know for a fact was a 2nd or 3rd (or prospect/1st for that matter)

b) even if it is, like you say, a 2nd or 3rd, why cant those be packaged and flipped for something bigger?

c) what happens if pap and/or leave at the end of the year? id MUCH rather have (as im sure you would) "2nd or 3rd rounders" as opposed to "nothing"

id rather have a sure thing (picks/prosects) than a meaningless promise to want to stay

Dude, you preemptively attacked people in this thread for complaining before they complained, then you complain when they respond to what you said. C'mon, man, we're all on the same team...

To your point here though...if PA was only "moved for crap" when Paul Gaustad got a first rounder, then I don't really know what to say. I will say...the Isles get a pass in FA because "FAs don't come here," and now they get a pass on trades because "no one offers anything." I really wish I had all these bulletproof built-in excuses for my job
- UIF

You are correct, to the stick your head in the sand Islander fan Snow and Wang have a free pass for anything and they will continue to be allowed to do so. There is always an excuse for these two for some fans? God forbid another fan on these boards should question what these two genius's do or more importantly don't do! Its incredible how some called the Islanders out for doing nothing in the off season or around the deadline to improve their team and some fans think Snow and the Wanger are doing just fine. It is a joke.

if youre discrediting the guy you replied to for assuming pap/nabby would have brought back a 1st because there was no rumor, than ill be the one to discredit you for saying pap would get a 2nd and nabby a 3rd simply because there was never a rumor/offer of that either
- LetsGoIsles

just posted the same thing