We are on the same page, but I was suggesting stockpiling picks for trades this draft. Garth should trade this years first rounder, I think we all agree on that. However, I don't see Garth trading the same prospects he's drafted. So to me, trading picks for established NHL vets is the way to go. That said, why not add as many picks possible to do so. Later round picks could still bring back good talent.......I.E Hamonic, Martin etc.

I don't buy into the whole PA wants to be a part of this turn around. I'm not 16 anymore.........it's a business. PA is looking to see who's gonna offer him the most money......and he should. So let's say he walks july 1st to a team that offers him more than what snow deems fair market value........then what? To me that's a real risk, and the isles will be left with nothin out of this. Better to be ahead of the curve, and get the 2nd round pick for an "overachieving" parenteau.
- kindlyrick

with all the defensman from 4-10 in this draft why would you trade your first round pick??

I can't say for sure what was offered... only the GM's can. But I would be surprised if both didn't have a first round pick attached to them.

Gaustad got a first...lol.

Kostitsyn got a second.
- jimmc7722

Gaustad was a gross overpayment and went to NSH along with a fourth rounder. NSH was obviously overpaying at this deadline because they're going for it now, not knowing if they'll be able to keep their team together past this season. I didn't see anyone else moved by other teams to any other teams besides NSH for anything close to a first rounder. I really think that if a bubble team offered a first for either PAP or Nabby, Snow would have pulled the trigger and I couldn't blame him if he did.

what is your definition of finesse?? because he is one of the strongest on the puck players in the league.
- NYI78

Finesse.......offensive player who doesn't check or fight.......basically all of the isles forwards not named Matt Martin

with all the defensman from 4-10 in this draft why would you trade your first round pick??
- NYI78

Because nothing's guaranteed......and the isles don't need to wait 3 years for any player to develope......they have enough d prospects now that they can afford to trade this pick


Look at victor hedman......have u heard his name once in 3 years?

In response to your response about the isles paying 75 percent already. The isles saving 1.5 shmill is a big deal to this organization. The same organization who cancelled the radio broadcast to save money.
- kindlyrick

Do you really believe that the only reason the Isles traded Rolston and Mottau was to "save money" on contracts that the team already paid out 75% of? money was the only reason the team moved Rolston, a 39 year old bum who had 9 points in 50 games playing at a minus 1000 and was waived on Saturday, and Mottau, a d-man who was 7th or 8th on the depth chart, playing at a minus 1000 and was a turnover machine making only $800K this year? It had nothing to do with wanting to open two roster spots up for kids, who could perform as well if not better than Rolston and Mottau?

Ok I will join the pity party since that is what I do. Garth Snow did a great job getting rid of two wastes, but if PA and or Nabby walk then Snow should hit the road. I was not diappointed in yesterday as Snow has done nothing for this team in a long time. Only person who is smiling is my buddy Wang cause he just saved some money.

Onto Montoya and or DP. Lets face it as much as I hate the guy we all know and the organization knows that DP is dead to this team. He used to be in that 40 years of Islander history video and then the last game I went to no mention of him. He is donesville. As for Montoya he just is not the same player he used to be. I am thinking if the Islanders resign Nabby (which I think will happen) they will release Montoya dn bring up Poulin for the rest of the year. Next year it will be there two and we will be rid of the DP curse.

The guy I will be pissed at if he leaves is PA. I beleive he is playing mind games with the Islanders adn if he walks after next year then we got to question Snow. Not for nothing though PA on any other team I think might be bust just ask Jason Blake

No he is a little older than 10 but he has showcased himself and think about it, he had hopes of Detroit last year...Isles took that away. A stanley cup is a big deal at his age (again not 10, ) .... and we all know what its like in winning and losing in hockey and how it makes you feel...maybe he still holds that against them and it would kinda put it to them. Hey its a thought, my thought..you don't have to agree. its why i brought it up to see what guys think. no need to go act like a 10 year old though
- Nolanders

So you brought it up to see what we thought, but when I pointed out that I thought it was totally illogical, that means I'm acting like a 10 year old? Got it.

Do you really believe that the only reason the Isles traded Rolston and Mottau was to "save money" on contracts that the team already paid out 75% of? money was the only reason the team moved Rolston, a 39 year old bum who had 9 points in 50 games playing at a minus 1000 and was waived on Saturday, and Mottau, a d-man who was 7th or 8th on the depth chart, playing at a minus 1000 and was a turnover machine making only $800K this year? It had nothing to do with wanting to open two roster spots up for kids, who could perform as well if not better than Rolston and Mottau?
- Jethro09

We can agree to disagree.......cause yes saving 1.5 million is something to Wang. Did it really take 60 games to realize these guys were not adding more to this team than say ulstrom or (insert bport dman).

Finesse.......offensive player who doesn't check or fight.
- kindlyrick

your a riot...michael grabner is a finesse player...

Because nothing's guaranteed......and the isles don't need to wait 3 years for any player to develope......they have enough d prospects now that they can afford to trade this pick


Look at victor hedman......have u heard his name once in 3 years?
- kindlyrick

fine i'll bite..who are you trading your pick for then??

No way. That's absurd. I saw someone else write this yesterday and its ridiculous. Think about it. If you're Nabokov and you wanted out to go to a contender, you'd announce to the world that you'll waive your no trade and not have your agent negotiate an extension on LI. Nabby is going to look out for himself and what's in his best interests. He's not going to screw himself out of a chance to get traded to a contender just to get "payback" on the Isles.

I think Nabby had a very poor perception of the Isles last year when he was claimed off waivers (shocker!) and he simply felt like he'd rather not play than come to Long Island. Then, when he didn't have a choice but to play here, he gave it his all, came in with an open mind and saw that LI wasn't the sh**hole that the rest of the NHL and hockey media make it out to be. He probably figures he can finish out on LI, get paid good money to do so, and start for the rest of his career, which isn't too bad a proposition for a 37 year old.
- Jethro09

I agree. I also think that he realizes he can probably get more money to stay here. Roloson got $5 mil over 2 years, I don't see that as unfair for Nabokov. I'd even be willing to give him $6mil over 2 years to ensure some stability in goal.

No other team is going to give him that money or playing time.

thank you!!!!
- NYI78

But we didn't trade for an allstar defenseman!

But we didn't trade for an allstar defenseman!


- eichiefs9

its predictable i feel like punting from this conversation for a day or so

what two first rounders are you referring to? Because neither PAP or Nabby were bringing back a first rounder. There is absolutely no rumor that a first was even offered for either guy. PAP was maybe bringing back a second, Nabby possibly a third. There is no reason to believe that either guy was bringing back a first.
- Jethro09

Considering Paul Gaustad was worth a 1st rounder, how can you be so sure? I'd say a guy averaging a point a game is worth a little more than a Paul Gaustad.
Nabokov, I guess, is needed for depth, so I kinda understand not trading him.

Considering Paul Gaustad was worth a 1st rounder, how can you be so sure? I'd say a guy averaging a point a game is worth a little more than a Paul Gaustad.
Nabokov, I guess, is needed for depth, so I kinda understand not trading him.
- potvin05

i have no problem with garth setting his price and not settling...their is nothing wrong with that

i have no problem with garth setting his price and not settling...their is nothing wrong with that
- NYI78

I said it at the end of the last thread.....gut feeling, Snow got offered a mid-level to a late 1st rounder and he turned it down. Overvaluing his own guys. I'm sorry, and I admittedly know nothing, but if that offer was there, he should have taken it.

http://www.nyiskinny.com/...ton-i-didnt-play-lot.html

http://www.nyiskinny.com/2012/02/rolston-i-didnt-play-lot.html


- eichiefs9

Just trying to make himself look better. One of THE worst seasons I've ever seen a veteran player have. For any team.

<<"When I got into Long Island, they had a good group of young core players. I don't think I fit into their plans as well as I thought I was going to," he said. "It's been a tough year for the Islanders for sure. As far as producing for me, I didn't really play a lot, so it was kind of hard to produce, but I do feel like I have a lot left to offer.">>

from brian rolston!! is he out of his mind??? how many minutes did he want a night 25?

its predictable i feel like punting from this conversation for a day or so
- NYI78

I'd stop going to crazy over reading the incessant demands for trades if there was actually names attached. I can only read that we have to make an "impact trade" for a "top 4 defenseman" so many times before my eyes start profusely bleeding.

<<"When I got into Long Island, they had a good group of young core players. I don't think I fit into their plans as well as I thought I was going to," he said. "It's been a tough year for the Islanders for sure. As far as producing for me, I didn't really play a lot, so it was kind of hard to produce, but I do feel like I have a lot left to offer.">>

from brian rolston!! is he out of his mind??? how many minutes did he want a night 25?
- NYI78

The best part of the article is when Hornick points out he was 6th on the team in PP time

I'd stop going to crazy over reading the incessant demands for trades if there was actually names attached. I can only read that we have to make an "impact trade" for a "top 4 defenseman" so many times before my eyes start profusely bleeding.
- eichiefs9

top 4 dmen are soo easy to find..look how many were traded yesterday...um..hold on let me count ZERO!!!!!

The best part of the article is when Hornick points out he was 6th on the team in PP time
- eichiefs9

too funny...i laughed out loud and my co workers looked at me wierd, i said you wouldn't get the joke

<<"When I got into Long Island, they had a good group of young core players. I don't think I fit into their plans as well as I thought I was going to," he said. "It's been a tough year for the Islanders for sure. As far as producing for me, I didn't really play a lot, so it was kind of hard to produce, but I do feel like I have a lot left to offer.">>

from brian rolston!! is he out of his mind??? how many minutes did he want a night 25?
- NYI78

that's laughable and insults the intelligence of every Islander fan that watched this guy try and skate around with a car tied to his ass all year.

i'm glad pa wasn't moved for crap...making trades for the sake of trades help nobody..lets hope pa gets signed..i'm more concerned about this offseason thatn yesterday
- NYI78

Dude, you preemptively attacked people in this thread for complaining before they complained, then you complain when they respond to what you said. C'mon, man, we're all on the same team...

To your point here though...if PA was only "moved for crap" when Paul Gaustad got a first rounder, then I don't really know what to say. I will say...the Isles get a pass in FA because "FAs don't come here," and now they get a pass on trades because "no one offers anything." I really wish I had all these bulletproof built-in excuses for my job