Reveen
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC Joined: 05.25.2011
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Schulz is what we've needed since Gator left. I like it. - GuyLaDouche
That's actually not a bad comparison |
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FiretheGM
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 12.16.2011
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If i'm making the lines there would be a vet with a younger player pairing.Whitney-Smid,Shultz-Petry(gives petry more freedom to jump up into the play),and Sutton- Potter.Next year Potter will be replaced by Klefbaum. - Faxanadu
The Swed will be in Sweden, maybe the AHL, hes not good enough for NHL yet. GER and MULE looked better then him in WJR, so I dont think he will play here, plus the Oilers dont want to rush there players anymore.
Edit: Mule and Ger are the nicknames for Marincin, and Gernat, for those who dont know. |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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You think he plays the guys he feels are best, the least? - Zombie
If every player had the same number of games played, and everyone's TOI/G didn't waver too much during the year, then TOI/G alone would be a fair marker of who the coach thinks is best. But obviously those things aren't even remotely close to true so TOI/G cannot alone tell you the quality of a player, depth wise. Who does the coach send out for the last shift of a game you're leading by a goal? That's probably your best guy. |
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thefullnelson
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 02.03.2012
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http://video.wild.nhl.com/videocenter/console?hcatid=845&id=160716&navid=DL|MIN|home
Seeing the reaction of his teammates to the trade solidifies my opinion that we won this. Considering they are all as well trained in talking to the media as any politician, I basically read their reactions as "OH GOD why couldn't it have been anyone else? " I think Minnie now has a gigantic hole in their locker room. |
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kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Ferguson Joined: 01.16.2011
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You think he plays the guys he feels are best, the least? - Zombie
It's not as simple as you're making it out to be.
Schultz gets more shifts at even strength than any other defenseman on the team. Even strength shifts truly show where a coach has a player on the depth chart. You're wrong on this one. |
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Zombie
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Canada, AB Joined: 06.30.2007
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It's not as simple as you're making it out to be.
Schultz gets more shifts at even strength than any other defenseman on the team. Even strength shifts truly show where a coach has a player on the depth chart. You're wrong on this one. - kingbrehm
He's played the 4th most minutes/game at evens. |
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Zombie
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Canada, AB Joined: 06.30.2007
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If every player had the same number of games played, and everyone's TOI/G didn't waver too much during the year, then TOI/G alone would be a fair marker of who the coach thinks is best. But obviously those things aren't even remotely close to true so TOI/G cannot alone tell you the quality of a player, depth wise. Who does the coach send out for the last shift of a game you're leading by a goal? That's probably your best guy. - Morris
I never said it did, however it's probably a better marker then the random spots that fans want to place players on the depth charts. |
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deks1
Edmonton Oilers |
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Joined: 02.13.2012
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Safe to say TAMBS is getting extended after today. - FiretheGM
Was hoping for more action in the Oilers war room...should he be extended? |
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Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB Joined: 01.27.2010
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Safe to say TAMBS is getting extended after today. - FiretheGM
On what grounds? |
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Morris
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS Joined: 07.18.2007
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I never said it did, however it's probably a better marker then the random spots that fans want to place players on the depth charts. - Zombie
Sorry I thought it was you who complaining that we traded Gilbert for Minny's #5 dman. It might have been pilgor |
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GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e Joined: 04.30.2011
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asides from everything else, he brings experience, leadership and steadiness on the back end that Gilbert will probably never be able to provide. you can't look at the numbers alone. |
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Sabata
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 07.05.2007
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I always wonder why people bring this up, just because players play a different style doesn't mean you can't compare them.
Stamkos plays a different style then Steven Ott, but that doens't mean you can't say Stamkos >> Ott. - Zombie
Of course you can compare them but it's ridiculous to suggest Gilbert is a far superior player. It's also ridiculous to use Stamkos and Ott as your comparison to make a point.
Both teams were trying to add a dimension they were lacking in this trade. Gilbert plays a different style of game. He has superior offensive skills but is weak defensively and physically.
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On another note I wonder if Tambs tried to shop Omark at all. |
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Was hoping for more action in the Oilers war room...should he be extended? - deks1
If he signs Smyth for over 3.5 mill or over 1 yearEinstein duration he definitely should NOT....unless being conservative and selecting 1st overalls counts as being a (frank)ing genius.... |
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Sabata
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Ottawa, ON Joined: 07.05.2007
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Well he did play the 5th most minutes per game of Wild defenders..... - Zombie
He also played the second most shifts per game.
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On another note I wonder if Tambs tried to shop Omark at all. - freelancer
Obviously not... That would have been easy to do unless they are asking for the moon... Not sure why Nashville would not have wanted him.... |
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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ Joined: 02.28.2009
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Obviously not... That would have been easy to do unless they are asking for the moon... Not sure why Nashville would not have wanted him.... - saskoil21
They'd have absolutely no use for him.
edit: Also, I don't see Omark really fitting in under a guy like Trotz. |
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GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e Joined: 04.30.2011
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He also played the second most shifts per game. - Sabata
Looking a little deeper..
Has a lot less giveaways than Gilbert, almost the same amount of takeaways.
Will be second only to Smid in blocked shots
2nd on Wild in total TOI, again only Smid will be ahead of him in this respect
Leads the Wild in Sh TOI.
Can play both sides on D.
Conclusion? Lose some offence, TOI numbers about the same, large gain on defence and toughness. The type of guy they need back there. Like I said, I like the trade.
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Anyone of you hillbillies live in Fox Creek?
I just applied for a job there.
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Looking a little deeper..
Has a lot less giveaways than Gilbert, almost the same amount of takeaways.
Will be second only to Smid in blocked shots
2nd on Wild in total TOI, again only Smid will be ahead of him in this respect
Leads the Wild in Sh TOI.
Can play both sides on D.
Conclusion? Lose some offence, TOI numbers about the same, large gain on defence and toughness. The type of guy they need back there. Like I said, I like the trade. - GuyLaDouche
We need him for the playoff push down the stretch here. |
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GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e Joined: 04.30.2011
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We need him for the playoff push down the stetch here. - robin_steele264
oh shut up. my point was valid. |
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oh shut up. my point was valid. - GuyLaDouche
Wonder if they could make it if they win out the schedule...
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FiretheGM
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 12.16.2011
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oh shut up. my point was valid. - GuyLaDouche
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longbottom
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Edmonton, AB Joined: 06.29.2010
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Well he did play the 5th most minutes per game of Wild defenders..... - Zombie
Do you actually watch hockey or just make lame comments?
It takes more than Minutes on Ice to be a hockey player.
Schultz is the NHLPA rep for the team and is the leader in and out of the locker room. As quoted by Cal Clutterbuck "he is the face of the Wild."
And when a player playes 17 games does not make him a better defenseman than a player who plays 62 games it makes him a call up.
By the way just for your Knowledge the average mins by the Wild defensemen are:
Spurgeon GP-60 ave TOI- 21:39
Scandella GP-44 Ave TOI- 20:49
Zidlicky GP-42 Ave TOI- 20:38
Lundin GP-17 Ave TOI- 20:12
Prosser GP-32 Ave TOI- 19:49
Schultz GP-62 Ave TOI- 19:36
Falk GP- 37 Ave TOI- 19:34
Zanon GP-39 Ave TOI- 18:37
So by your thinking the Wild just traded their #3 #6 and #8 defensemen in the last week or so. I see Schultz was 6th on the team for TOI. Yet never plays any P/P time.
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