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Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Feb 27 @ 4:31 PM ET
Yeah but tell that to Vancouver fans who say Hodgson> eberle... that one is always good for a chuckle... but that is what they say...
- saskoil21

That's the same as Leaf trolls saying Kadri > Hall. It really means nothing.
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 27 @ 4:31 PM ET
Interesting trade as it's just soft offensive Gilbert who is 29 to Minne for tough defensive Schultz who is 29. Does that mean Edm thinks Petry has made Gilbert tradeable? What does the addition of Schultz mean to Peckham, Barker. This is definatly a message trade to the players.
As for the fan whining that Schultz is Minne's #5 defenseman????/ Watch hockey much? Good trade for both teams and Edmontons defense just got a touch more solid.

- longbottom


Well he did play the 5th most minutes per game of Wild defenders.....
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:35 PM ET
Interesting trade as it's just soft offensive Gilbert who is 29 to Minne for tough defensive Schultz who is 29. Does that mean Edm thinks Petry has made Gilbert tradeable? What does the addition of Schultz mean to Peckham, Barker. This is definatly a message trade to the players.
As for the fan whining that Schultz is Minne's #5 defenseman????/ Watch hockey much? Good trade for both teams and Edmontons defense just got a touch more solid.

- longbottom

I think it means nothing to Barker as Barker is most likely gone regardless. The one thing it does do for him is brings him up a notch on the PMD and he'll get another shot.

As for Peckham I don't know. He needs to bust his ass down the stretch. Sutton's signing really hurt him.
Seldom Beaton
Location: Cincinatti
Joined: 08.12.2006

Feb 27 @ 4:35 PM ET
Well he did play the 5th most minutes per game of Wild defenders

Oh you fact-based fool!
Anyone can see not nearly so soft as Gilbert!
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:37 PM ET
Yeah but tell that to Vancouver fans who say Hodgson> eberle... that one is always good for a chuckle... but that is what they say...
- saskoil21

Hodgson was suppose to win the Calder every year since he was drafted. I'd almost like to see it happen now that he isn't a Nuck
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:38 PM ET
Yeah but tell that to Vancouver fans who say Hodgson> eberle... that one is always good for a chuckle... but that is what they say...
- saskoil21

Hodgson was suppose to win the Calder every year since he was drafted. I'd almost like to see it happen now that he isn't a Nuck
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:42 PM ET
Interesting trade as it's just soft offensive Gilbert who is 29 to Minne for tough defensive Schultz who is 29. Does that mean Edm thinks Petry has made Gilbert tradeable? What does the addition of Schultz mean to Peckham, Barker. This is definatly a message trade to the players.
As for the fan whining that Schultz is Minne's #5 defenseman????/ Watch hockey much? Good trade for both teams and Edmontons defense just got a touch more solid.

- longbottom


Petry is almost to Gilbert's level but comes at a $3,000,000 discount. He'll get a raise in the off season but I can't imagine it exceeding $2,000,000.
FiretheGM
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.16.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:44 PM ET
Petry is almost to Gilbert's level but comes at a $3,000,000 discount. He'll get a raise in the off season but I can't imagine it exceeding $2,000,000.
- kingbrehm

If he keeps playing well he will get 2.5 to 3 for 4. Thats my guess, most top four get around that.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Feb 27 @ 4:45 PM ET
Now the nuck fans will say Hodgson was worthless and they are better off without him....
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:45 PM ET
Yeah but tell that to Vancouver fans who say Hodgson> eberle... that one is always good for a chuckle... but that is what they say...
- saskoil21


Well now Kassian > Eberle
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:46 PM ET
Well he did play the 5th most minutes per game of Wild defenders.....
- Zombie


And since Spurgeon had the most he is clearly their #1 guy
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:47 PM ET
If he keeps playing well he will get 2.5 to 3 for 4. Thats my guess, most top four get around that.
- FiretheGM


I dunno if he will. If he had this development last year and carried it into this season, definitely. But ready only the second half of this season is where he really started to come around. Regardless, cheaper than Gilbert.
FiretheGM
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.16.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:48 PM ET
And since Spurgeon had the most he is clearly their #1 guy
- kingbrehm


He is there number one guy, All the guys who get tons of mins for the wild on D are the guys there Coach had in AHL.
Zombie
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 27 @ 4:48 PM ET
And since Spurgeon had the most he is clearly their #1 guy
- kingbrehm


Kind of hard to argue otherwise, don't you think?

I mean for the most part you would think coaches would play the guy that gives them the best chance to win.... the most.
FiretheGM
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.16.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:49 PM ET
I dunno if he will. If he had this development last year and carried it into this season, definitely. But ready only the second half of this season is where he really started to come around. Regardless, cheaper than Gilbert.
- kingbrehm


Yeah but if he plays lots of mins for the Oilers, he will want what the other guys are getting, at least his agent will.
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:53 PM ET
Kind of hard to argue otherwise, don't you think?

I mean for the most part you would think coaches would play the guy that gives them the best chance to win.... the most.

- Zombie


So when Belanger plays heavier minutes than Hall and Eberle that makes him better. Okay I get your line of reasoning.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Feb 27 @ 4:53 PM ET
Kind of hard to argue otherwise, don't you think?

I mean for the most part you would think coaches would play the guy that gives them the best chance to win.... the most.

- Zombie

It was said Schultz didn't play the PP at all so maybe that had some bearing, but not much.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:53 PM ET
Schulz is what we've needed since Gator left. I like it.
FiretheGM
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.16.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:57 PM ET
Like I said when he plays one game for us everybody will love him. hes a solid top4 who can play 20+ mins a night. and can shut down the the best in the game. Hes J smith, not as gritty.
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:58 PM ET
It was said Schultz didn't play the PP at all so maybe that had some bearing, but not much.
- Jack-artist


Correct. But some feel that ice time = depth chart.

BTW Shawn Horcoff is our best forward
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:59 PM ET
Yeah but if he plays lots of mins for the Oilers, he will want what the other guys are getting, at least his agent will.
- FiretheGM


I think Petry maxes out this year as RFA at $2m... but we'll see.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 27 @ 4:59 PM ET
Honestly Minny appears to use 3 pairing with quite equal time. Add the injuries in there and it misses things up.

The fact remains that on a lot of nights he plays north of 20 minutes.

Also if he is a #5, Potter is our #4.
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Feb 27 @ 5:00 PM ET
Like I said when he plays one game for us everybody will love him. hes a solid top4 who can play 20+ mins a night. and can shut down the the best in the game. Hes J smith, not as gritty.
- FiretheGM


He's a team leader, does everything for the team, he has some grit... exactly the type of character player we needed.
Lahey
Edmonton Oilers
Location: del's basement chilling with S, AB
Joined: 03.07.2011

Feb 27 @ 5:02 PM ET
Schulz is what we've needed since Gator left. I like it.
- GuyLaDouche

Are they even close to the same? Gator couldn't skate or handle the puck worth poop. Schultz doesn't hit, if he can't skate or handle the puck we have Semenov on our hands again.
Seldom Beaton
Location: Cincinatti
Joined: 08.12.2006

Feb 27 @ 5:02 PM ET
So when Belanger plays heavier minutes than Hall and Eberle that makes him better. Okay I get your line of reasoning.

Better?
Right now is Belanger a "better" NHLer than Hall & Eberle.
Maybe not for a long time, but now, yes.

Now, if you get H&E the right match-up, the right situation, they'll kill it,
I can't think of a situation where Belanger will kill it.
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