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hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 27 @ 9:52 AM ET
Fair enough
- bird_dog


PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 27 @ 9:52 AM ET
you've got your superbowl. anything else is dessert at the all you can eat buffet after you've stuffed your face for 3 hours.
- hammarby31


I have seen 4 Super Bowls, I'm becoming bored by that.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 27 @ 9:52 AM ET
that's the only rationale to make that move
- isaiah520


It is. They can't be out and out sellers, and the guy they get for JvR had better be a damned good player.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 27 @ 9:52 AM ET
I have seen 4 Super Bowls, I'm becoming bored by that.
- PLindbergh31



shut up.
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 27 @ 9:55 AM ET
Just saying, he's the only big name I see the Flyers going after today.
- hereticpride

Sine when did Ott turn into a big name? He's a glorified Rinaldo. Trading JVR for that guy would be straight up highway robbery.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 27 @ 9:55 AM ET
Louis jean from sportsnet says pk def NOT available...
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Feb 27 @ 9:55 AM ET

- hammarby31


What's wrong with that?!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 27 @ 9:56 AM ET
Sine when did Ott turn into a big name? He's a glorified Rinaldo. Trading JVR for that guy would be straight up highway robbery.
- Flyers1218


He's much better than Rinaldo, but trading JVR for him doesn't make much sense.
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Feb 27 @ 9:57 AM ET
After the game, for reasons known only to himself, Bryzgalov - who entered the night with just three saves on 10 shootouts shots this season - refused to talk to the media for the second straight game. (The NHL could hand out a fine.)





TMZ...
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 27 @ 10:02 AM ET
The other issue is, that'd leave the Flyers with a hole on defense. So unless there's a second deal where JvR or something goes for a top four defenseman, it's kind of a step back.

I get the whole idea of get an asset for Carle while he's under contract. But if a 2010 scenario occurs again, I don;t want to be short a defenseman

- Jsaquella

Exactly. It makes sense to wanna get something out of Carle instead of letting him walk come summer (not sure thats the case assuming Pronger is donezo). But getting a top pick and a middling prospect is not worth further depleting the defense. If you could package JvR and Carle it might be worth it...

jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 27 @ 10:02 AM ET
The other issue is, that'd leave the Flyers with a hole on defense. So unless there's a second deal where JvR or something goes for a top four defenseman, it's kind of a step back.

I get the whole idea of get an asset for Carle while he's under contract. But if a 2010 scenario occurs again, I don;t want to be short a defenseman

- Jsaquella

Exactly. It makes sense to wanna get something out of Carle instead of letting him walk come summer (not sure thats the case assuming Pronger is donezo). But getting a top pick and a middling prospect is not worth further depleting the defense. If you could package JvR and Carle it might be worth it...

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 27 @ 10:03 AM ET
TMZ...
- phi1671


Reason known to himself? The media has kicked him around all year...I know the reason. He thinks they're all assclowns
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 27 @ 10:04 AM ET
@jak

Yeah, JvR & Carle for Erik Johnson and a good grinder forward works for me.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Feb 27 @ 10:04 AM ET
Aaaaaaaaaaaand still waiting for Shelley to be put on waivers **taps fingers on desk**
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 27 @ 10:05 AM ET
Grain of Salt ALERT:
That guy Hockey News Centr on twitter apparently says now the hold up on the Nash deal is that he is mulling over going to the Flyers... Rangers and Sharks still pushing.

Also, I am Franz Ferdinand. That is all.
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Feb 27 @ 10:05 AM ET
Winnipeg Jets with $27 mill in cap space to use
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 27 @ 10:06 AM ET
He's much better than Rinaldo, but trading JVR for him doesn't make much sense.
- PLindbergh31


seriously. he literally gets triple the ice time rinaldo does, kills penalties, wins a ton of draws, is good for about 40 points a year and is obviously a super pest.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 27 @ 10:06 AM ET
Aaaaaaaaaaaand still waiting for Shelley to be put on waivers **taps fingers on desk**
- Buzzo

Considering he wouldn't clear until tomorrow, waiving Shelley wouldn't help us much at this point.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 27 @ 10:07 AM ET
@jak

Yeah, JvR & Carle for Erik Johnson and a good grinder forward works for me.

- Jsaquella

I still think it would be to a team thats making a SC push...
Flyers1218
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 06.28.2007

Feb 27 @ 10:07 AM ET
seriously. he literally gets triple the ice time rinaldo does, kills penalties, wins a ton of draws, is good for about 40 points a year and is obviously a super pest.
- OrangeBlack27

Ok, bad analogy... Geez. Still don't want him and he is still not anywhere near worth JVR.

Serious question: Why do so many people want to see JVR traded?
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 27 @ 10:09 AM ET
seriously. he literally gets triple the ice time rinaldo does, kills penalties, wins a ton of draws, is good for about 40 points a year and is obviously a super pest.
- OrangeBlack27

pssh... he would only start fights with Lava if he came here
#bully#dontcareifthisplaceisnttwitter
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 27 @ 10:09 AM ET
@jak

Yeah, JvR & Carle for Erik Johnson and a good grinder forward works for me.

- Jsaquella



JVR and Carle for Johnson and Downie
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 27 @ 10:10 AM ET
I still think it would be to a team thats making a SC push...
- jak521


I agree. If Carle moves, it'll likely be to a team like Vancouver, with Ballard out.
bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

Feb 27 @ 10:10 AM ET
If the flyers were to trade JVR for Subban I am taking my ball and going home. I want no parts of that head case. Talented? Yes, but I don't trust him.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 27 @ 10:10 AM ET
Ok, bad analogy... Geez. Still don't want him and he is still not anywhere near worth JVR.

Serious question: Why do so many people want to see JVR traded?

- Flyers1218


i don't think people do. i sure don't. just seems as though a lot of teams inquire with the flyers regarding his availability, so the pundits bring up his name.

edit: there probably are some people who want to get rid of him because they are retarded, but thankfully they don't run the hockey club.
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