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hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 27 @ 9:05 AM ET
not selling but what if you could get a top prospect and a pick for carle....you def wont be getting that at the draft
- griouxmvp2012

How is trading an NHL D man for a prospect and pick that not selling?

Only way I trade Carle is for an upgrade at D. Carle and a 4th for Visnovsky or something like that. It's just not likely.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 27 @ 9:05 AM ET
over/under on the hour of the first trade of the day?
- hammarby31


My guess is 1040 or so. Usually nothing happens until 10:30-11 am.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 27 @ 9:05 AM ET
fantasy scenario...

carle is moved to a team like CHI for a #1 pick and a prospect(s), then those assets are used to defray the cost of acquiring a young dman. JVR would have to be part of the deal.

the only reason to do it today would be to take advantage of carle's value, because it will never be higher. the young dman acquired, a subban-type, would be ready to play now and the flyers would be able to avoid the over-pmt circus of July 1.

not a likely scenario, but at least a logical thought process, imo.

- isaiah520

So basically Carle and JvR for Subban and a 1st? Im I reading that correctly?
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 27 @ 9:08 AM ET
So dreger said SJ offered Niemi straight up for JVR. Flyers declined. thank god
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 27 @ 9:09 AM ET
i really dont think carle is gonna be back.....and i also think the flyers arent a contender this year ............homer would be dumb to not see what he could get for carle
- griouxmvp2012


He'd also look pretty dumb if there was a repeat of 2010 and the top seeds get nuked early and the Flyers are stuck with too few defensemen in the ECF.

I'm not closed minded to dealing Carle, but it sure as Hell ain't going to be for a prospect goalie
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Feb 27 @ 9:09 AM ET
Best people to follow on twitter for the trades that go down today are?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 27 @ 9:09 AM ET
So dreger said SJ offered Niemi straight up for JVR. Flyers declined. thank god
- nastyflyergirl


UGH....
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 27 @ 9:10 AM ET
So dreger said SJ offered Niemi straight up for JVR. Flyers declined. thank god
- nastyflyergirl

i kinda of have a feeling jvr will be wearing a different jersey after today
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Feb 27 @ 9:10 AM ET
So dreger said SJ offered Niemi straight up for JVR. Flyers declined. thank god
- nastyflyergirl


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 27 @ 9:10 AM ET
Best people to follow on twitter for the trades that go down today are?
- Flyers2821


@TSNBobMcKenzie @DarrenDreger @Real_ESPNLeBrun
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Feb 27 @ 9:11 AM ET
i kinda of have a feeling jvr will be wearing a different jersey after today
- griouxmvp2012



I have a feeling nobody on the flyers will be wearing a different jersey today.
bird_dog
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PEI
Joined: 09.30.2011

Feb 27 @ 9:11 AM ET
A 2nd and a late round pick for a guy who led the NHL in assists at the time of the trade?
- Jsaquella


If I remember correctly he was a rental free agent. Oates IMO wasn't worth including a first rounder.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 27 @ 9:11 AM ET
i kinda of have a feeling jvr will be wearing a different jersey after today
- griouxmvp2012


Only if somebody gives up a ton to get him. Dreger says the Flyers will listen, but if you're bidding on JvR, you'd better be shooting the moon in terms of an offer.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 27 @ 9:13 AM ET
I have a feeling nobody on the flyers will be wearing a different jersey today.
- Buzzo

crosses fingers and hopes Chodie Shelley is the exception
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Feb 27 @ 9:13 AM ET
I have a feeling nobody on the flyers will be wearing a different jersey today.
- Buzzo


I don't buy that for a second. This is simply the calm before the storm... league wide.

The Flyers are ALWAYS looking to make moves and they currently have a ton of trading chips to make something happen, and they will.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 27 @ 9:13 AM ET
If I remember correctly he was a rental free agent. Oates IMO wasn't worth including a first rounder.
- bird_dog


He was a rental, but he was also leading the NHL in assists at the time.

Also, what everyone seems to forget, the Flyers were in Tampa the night before and both Roenick and Primeau had knee injuries and they had no idea how badly either was hurt prior to the TDL.

Had there not been injuries the night before, there's no Oates trade. If Roenick and Primeau were out long term, the playoff centers would have been Jiri Dopita and Peter White.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 27 @ 9:14 AM ET
To Do List:

Ensure precious cap space is wasted on a sack of manure that sits in the press box.

Do not improve the bottom third of the NHL PK, and faceoff % with a solid checking line center.

I'm very confident all of the above will get done today.
Lanegan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 09.05.2006

Feb 27 @ 9:14 AM ET
http://veetle.com/index.p...hannel/view#4f4b28dbab3fa <---- tsn tradecenter, needs veetle tho
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 27 @ 9:14 AM ET
I don't buy that for a second. This is simply the calm before the storm... league wide.

The Flyers are ALWAYS looking to make moves and they currently have a ton of trading chips to make something happen, and they will.

- Flyers2821


As Bill points out, the Flyers don't always make a move on TDL day. As long as they avoid panic moves, I'm fine.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 27 @ 9:15 AM ET
To Do List:

Ensure precious cap space is wasted on a sack of manure that sits in the press box.

Do not improve the bottom third of the NHL PK, and faceoff % with a solid checking line center.

I'm very confident all of the above will get done today.

- PLindbergh31


sweet trollin', brah!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 27 @ 9:15 AM ET
My guess is 1040 or so. Usually nothing happens until 10:30-11 am.
- Jsaquella


i'm sure the tsn tradecenter show is absolutely scintillating right now.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 27 @ 9:15 AM ET
Only if somebody gives up a ton to get him. Dreger says the Flyers will listen, but if you're bidding on JvR, you'd better be shooting the moon in terms of an offer.
- Jsaquella

yea he said on tradecenter that theres teams calling about jvr
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 27 @ 9:16 AM ET
I think we'll be in on Ott. Only big name that makes sense right now. The move would likely mean Briere gets moved to wing tho.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 27 @ 9:17 AM ET
So dreger said SJ offered Niemi straight up for JVR. Flyers declined. thank god
- nastyflyergirl


i haven't paid any attention to him this year. i assume he's not doing that well if they're offering him for a forward.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 27 @ 9:17 AM ET
So basically Carle and JvR for Subban and a 1st? Im I reading that correctly?
- jak521

leave out the #1 pick because that would be flipped over to MTL, so it's carle and JVR for subban and maybe we we also have a better prospect left over. not a bad way to go for the flyers given carles likely salary demands.
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