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GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Feb 26 @ 3:42 PM ET
its just a lil thing called experiance... they are maturing and could show a 2nd year and a rookie the ropes
- Killbot460

So we have a sophomore and a rookie as 1st and 2nd line center...and are counting on 2 3rd year players to cover for them?
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:42 PM ET
Too young to know him... but Bob Staufer said Semenko was the best "enforcer" but Brown was prolly the best fighter
- Killbot460

Brown was the best fighter we had before laraque.. The guy was feared.
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:44 PM ET
So we have a sophomore and a rookie as 1st and 2nd line center...and are counting on 2 3rd year players to cover for them?
- GuyLaDouche


not cover for them.... help em out, since they were in their shoes a year or 2 before. Besides isn't next year year 3 of a 5 year rebuild? playoffs will come in year 5 my friend. Be Patient
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:45 PM ET
Brown was the best fighter we had before laraque.. The guy was feared.
- doon


laraque was a poopty enforcer.... only fought when he was asked, rarley did he ask someone to go. But he was a good fighter
doon
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Spruce Grove, AB
Joined: 08.27.2008

Feb 26 @ 3:47 PM ET
laraque was a poopty enforcer.... only fought when he was asked, rarley did he ask someone to go. But he was a good fighter
- Killbot460

I agree, just saying he was the best fighter. Brown was a better enforcer for sure.
GuyLaDouche
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hockeybuzz is against breast e
Joined: 04.30.2011

Feb 26 @ 3:50 PM ET
not cover for them.... help em out, since they were in their shoes a year or 2 before. Besides isn't next year year 3 of a 5 year rebuild? playoffs will come in year 5 my friend. Be Patient
- Killbot460

I repeat, there is no one else that can step into the 2nd line center role. Horcoff is not a top 6 center, never has been. Belanger, ditto, and that was before his offence went into hibernation this year. Lander hasn't even earned a regular spot with the club yet. No. and I reiterate that there are starting to be major questions surrounding Grigorenko. At this stage in the rebuild they have no business trading a guy hoping that his spot can be filled by maybes. Its the reason Hemsky was re-signed, and it's the reason why Gagner shouldn't be traded unless they are in a position to outright rob another team.
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:51 PM ET
not cover for them.... help em out, since they were in their shoes a year or 2 before. Besides isn't next year year 3 of a 5 year rebuild? playoffs will come in year 5 my friend. Be Patient
- Killbot460

Playoffs were supposed to be this year, we are supposed to compete in year 5. If we keep trading players we draft and replace them with rookies we will never get to the playoffs. There is NO guarantee Grigs will be better or even 1/2 the player Gagner is.
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 26 @ 3:59 PM ET
I repeat, there is no one else that can step into the 2nd line center role. Horcoff is not a top 6 center, never has been. Belanger, ditto, and that was before his offence went into hibernation this year. Lander hasn't even earned a regular spot with the club yet. No. and I reiterate that there are starting to be major questions surrounding Grigorenko. At this stage in the rebuild they have no business trading a guy hoping that his spot can be filled by maybes. Its the reason Hemsky was re-signed, and it's the reason why Gagner shouldn't be traded unless they are in a position to outright rob another team.
- GuyLaDouche


and look at RNH, gotta give it to pilgor..... he called it, tons of questions about his size and strength look at him now.

Oh i wanna keep gagner but the oilers need 2 things: Size in the top 6 and a top pairing dman.... he is neither and sometimes you have to give up something good to get something goood.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 26 @ 4:01 PM ET
and look at RNH, gotta give it to pilgor..... he called it, tons of questions about his size and strength look at him now.

Oh i wanna keep gagner but the oilers need 2 things: Size in the top 6 and a top pairing dman.... he is neither and sometimes you have to give up something good to get something goood.

- Killbot460



RNH was the consensus #1 overall pick... by a wide margin.

Pilgor gets no credit.

Wash your mouth.


Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:01 PM ET
Playoffs were supposed to be this year, we are supposed to compete in year 5. If we keep trading players we draft and replace them with rookies we will never get to the playoffs. There is NO guarantee Grigs will be better or even 1/2 the player Gagner is.
- abware


(frank) off with playoffs this year.... When has a team finished dead last and then make the playoffs, no gm is going to come out and say we won`t make the playoffs... read between the lines you fool. Next year i bet ya the oil won`t even make the playoffs, they will be in the race but won`t make it till the year after.
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:03 PM ET
RNH was the consensus #1 overall pick... by a wide margin.

Pilgor gets no credit.

Wash your mouth.

- robin_steele264


haha all you tools didn`t want him cause he was too small, before the world jr`s pilgor wanted RNH and you guys wanted SC cause he was big, me included
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:03 PM ET
(frank) off with playoffs this year.... When has a team finished dead last and then make the playoffs, no gm is going to come out and say we won`t make the playoffs... read between the lines you fool. Next year i bet ya the oil won`t even make the playoffs, they will be in the race but won`t make it till the year after.
- Killbot460

When the 5 year plan was layed out year 3 was supposed to be playoffs
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:04 PM ET
haha all you tools didn`t want him cause he was too small, before the world jr`s pilgor wanted RNH and you guys wanted SC cause he was big, me included
- Killbot460

You just call yourself a tool?
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:12 PM ET
When the 5 year plan was layed out year 3 was supposed to be playoffs
- abware


i don`t recall tambo showing the world his plan...
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:12 PM ET
You just call yourself a tool?
- abware


maybe
abware
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Just Fuching with you guys! Oilers > than Flames! K-man25
Joined: 01.26.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:14 PM ET
maybe
- Killbot460

AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 26 @ 4:18 PM ET
I repeat, there is no one else that can step into the 2nd line center role. Horcoff is not a top 6 center, never has been. Belanger, ditto, and that was before his offence went into hibernation this year. Lander hasn't even earned a regular spot with the club yet. No. and I reiterate that there are starting to be major questions surrounding Grigorenko. At this stage in the rebuild they have no business trading a guy hoping that his spot can be filled by maybes. Its the reason Hemsky was re-signed, and it's the reason why Gagner shouldn't be traded unless they are in a position to outright rob another team.
- GuyLaDouche


Agree 1000%
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 26 @ 4:21 PM ET
RNH was the consensus #1 overall pick... by a wide margin.

Pilgor gets no credit.

Wash your mouth.

- robin_steele264


Yup
Sean Maloughney
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 09.26.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:27 PM ET
Agree 1000%
- AlEx_OiL

Agree 1001%. If we decide to draft either Grigs or Forsberg, flip them to the wing and add size. Even if we decide to draft Murray having Hall on one line and Paajarvi on the other for size works fine by me. Look at teams like Chicago you don't need to be huge to be competitive. Gagner is a perfect example, may be smaller player but won't shy away from a hit or a fight.
Pilgor09
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Planet Zontar
Joined: 06.03.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:29 PM ET
RNH was the consensus #1 overall pick... by a wide margin.

Pilgor gets no credit.

Wash your mouth.

- robin_steele264

I said it when he was ranked #3 you (frank)ing fruit.

Wash your balls.
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 26 @ 4:30 PM ET
Agree 1001%. If we decide to draft either Grigs or Forsberg, flip them to the wing and add size. Even if we decide to draft Murray having Hall on one line and Paajarvi on the other for size works fine by me. Look at teams like Chicago you don't need to be huge to be competitive. Gagner is a perfect example, may be smaller player but won't shy away from a hit or a fight.
- freelancer

OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:31 PM ET
When the 5 year plan was layed out year 3 was supposed to be playoffs
- abware


Ok...and we are in year two...next year the play offs are supposed to be happening.
AlEx_OiL
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Machu Picchu, AB
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 26 @ 4:32 PM ET
Ok...and we are in year two...next year the play offs are supposed to be happening.
- OilHorse


OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:33 PM ET
I said it when he was ranked #3 you (frank)ing fruit.

Wash your balls.

- Pilgor09


In your mouth?

Your boy Turdis is up for a Shanniban I see.

I don't see you tooting his horn as much lately.

So you want credit on Nuge, provide the link to where you said it, and admit you got it wrong about Turdis.
OilHorse
Edmonton Oilers
Location: EKolb..ChiRef..Dnozzlesupreme, BC
Joined: 10.12.2010

Feb 26 @ 4:35 PM ET

- AlEx_OiL



Kills me...it aint hard...Tambi is supposed to say the P-offs are the goal...the fans knew in the beginning there was not much hope for it, but then that fast start came and everyone started forgetting what reality was.

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