He actually plays quite well, just not worth his contract. If he were a 2 million 3rd line guy I'd love to have him around. Even with the terrible contract I don't hate him on the team, great at pk and f/o.
How's Upshall doing?
- abware

Well injures happen but you know we still arnt doing to bad without him and he was from what I heard one of the better pick ups

hm.

Well I don't think I would call the whole team that if you didn't know dale tallon took like half of the blackhawks and added people like Fleischmann, jovo etc... But I still think he would play like poop for us plus we need score and he can't score worth a poop
- Crazycaboose

Il ike how you pimped chi-town, still man jovocop, wicked nickname, hasn't been good since vancouver. versteeg came from t.o though

Il ike how you pimped chi-town, still man jovocop, wicked nickname, hasn't been good since vancouver. versteeg came from t.o though
- DrinkOil

Jovo hasn't been that bad this year and stats yes but he has been very good in the def zone and I still say versteeg is more of a blackhawk but we got him from the flyers he played for the leafs but got traded to Phil

would you be ok,if where the same day?
- DrinkOil

Of coarse, I just cant see mgmt going for a quick fix, as nice as it would be. To bring in two top end D men is going to cost a lot and it would most likely create new holes up front that would have to be filled with lesser player or rookies.

Jovo hasn't been that bad this year and stats yes but he has been very good in the def zone and I still say versteeg is more of a blackhawk but we got him from the flyers he played for the leafs but got traded to Phil
- Crazycaboose

ok, so jovo isn't that bad, still when you be telling me fleischman is your best player, that's why you don't score.

my bad versteeg did come from phi, tor, chi, and now fla.....Ya, he's somethin

Well injures happen but you know we still arnt doing to bad without him and he was from what I heard one of the better pick ups
- Crazycaboose

Do you watch hockey or form your own opinions?

Keep Gagner, draft Murray or Dumba... The end.
- laughs2907

Yep.

Wouldnt that be somethin... Go through all the growing pains, stick with him through the cold streaks, and the frustration, and as soon as he starts to come around.... Deal him

Do you watch hockey or form your own opinions?
- abware

No need to bite dude just saying you were making fun that he is out all season but hey I can point out things to not just form my own opinions for example the oilers are trying really hard to go for last place again to bad the jackets are going to take it now hows that for an opinion

smart post, we might be able to get more than that tho imo gilbert is almost equal to carlson.
- DrinkOil

Guess you are right, look what 5-6 defense men are getting right now. Still dare to dream and all, but I suspect it is not a prospect but a regular washington wants to trade. No cap space...

I suspect it's Green, as he is RFA and the only person that jumps out to me if the Oilers were to send 2.25 million back. If the Caps have a deal for Semin though, that would give them the cap needed for Gags + Gilbert.

Don't know the caps very well, so no idea who would be included to even it up a bit.

Yep.

Wouldnt that be somethin... Go through all the growing pains, stick with him through the cold streaks, and the frustration, and as soon as he starts to come around.... Deal him
- hugefemale dog77

it's sad, and no guarantees it will happen, but to make an omellete , you have to break some eggs. He's the only player of value we can trade to aquire a D-man.

Richard Cloutier: Why Gagner Could Be Dealt
- Maxbone

Ek is a bullsh!tter..../I would add more to that but there is nothing else to say...

Ek is a bullsh!tter..../I would add more to that but there is nothing else to say...
- OilHorse

Hey when you get payed to sh!t you are just going to sh!t everywhere

Hey when you get payed to sh!t you are just going to sh!t everywhere
- Crazycaboose

You may not know hockey, but you know funny

it's sad, and no guarantees it will happen, but to make an omellete , you have to break some eggs. He's the only player of value we can trade to aquire a D-man.
- DrinkOil

Your assuming eks capitals rumour has any validity to it whatsoever.... Let alone clouts thoughts on green or carlson.
How often is he right?? 1 outta every 100??

And even if washington was silly enough to deal green or carlson, Gagners recent success still doesnt make him worth either of them, nor many other young, star, top pairing dmen.

Hey when you get payed to sh!t you are just going to sh!t everywhere
- Crazycaboose

The guy is a fraud....for all his "sources" he rarely gets one right, and those are announced by others that are actually legit.

I never go into his blogs...if they can be described as such...he gets paid for hits like all the others, except he doesn't blog. He writes a "more to follow" sentence and call it a blog.

Fuk Ek....liar scammer cheat...

Wonder how many days I'll be banned for this...or how fast it'll get removed...

If Semin were open to signing a 3 year 5 million dollar contact Id trade Gagner for him.

Keep Gagner, draft Murray or Dumba... The end.
- laughs2907

+1

If Semin were open to signing a 3 year 5 million dollar contact Id trade Gagner for him.
- Pilgor09

What the hell are you smoking?

There are rumblings that Grigorenko might not be all that he is cut out to be.

There are rumblings that Grigorenko might not be all that he is cut out to be.
- Ben37

Who is saying this? I have seen him live 3 times this season and he is top 5 in the q at centre, maybe top 3 at 17. He leads the league in rookie scoring and is 7th overall. From what I have seen he could challenge Nail for #1.

Be interested to see who is saying he could be a bust.

Who is saying this? I have seen him live 3 times this season and he is top 5 in the q at centre, maybe top 3 at 17. He leads the league in rookie scoring and is 7th overall. From what I have seen he could challenge Nail for #1.

Be interested to see who is saying he could be a bust.
- boogs16

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/story/?id=388658

Mikhail Grigorenko: There had been whispers over the past month that all may not be wonderful when it comes to the scouting world's perception of Grigorenko's competitiveness, but the whispers have grown into full-blown skepticism in some circles. "He could fall right off the map," said one scout who asserted that his club won't be considering him in the first round.

"He doesn't want to compete. If he's there at 25 and we are picking, we go by him."

His concerns were echoed by another eastern conference scout who insisted his team will not select the talented Russian no matter where they end up in the standings. "He's a dog. Take a look at what games Grigorenko gets his points. He gets a handful the other night against PEI. none at Moncton, and one assist (in the nationally televised game) in Saint John. A couple of weeks ago in Rimouski he's minus 6. He scares the (crap) out of me." While there's no denying his skill level, and his 73 points in 39 games as a QMJHL rookie are a testament to his offensive abilities, there will be a lot of teams watching him closely in the playoffs to see whether he has the competitive streak scouts like to see in their top five prospects. As of right now a number of teams have several players ranked ahead of him, and that trend will continue if he does not learn to compete at a higher level.

Pump the brakes....the caps aren't trading alzner or Carlson for gagne. 2nd pick at the most for him. Mike Green isn't going any where either unless u annie up more too. Just wishful thinking.

Pump the brakes....the caps aren't trading alzner or Carlson for gagne. 2nd pick at the most for him. Mike Green isn't going any where either unless u annie up more too. Just wishful thinking.
- wood3348

Pump the brakes....the caps aren't trading alzner or Carlson for gagne. 2nd pick at the most for him. Mike Green isn't going any where either unless u annie up more too. Just wishful thinking.
- wood3348

Are you (frank)ed?