Are you kdding Im pretty sure these guys are Bowman foot soldiers. Rocky does not know hockey If they blow this thing up who makes the decisions in the transition. Those guys would run for cover. Plus the new guy would want to bring his guys in.
- mvp0207

rocky will have a pretty good idea i think who he would target for gm and president prior to making the move.
rocky is more of a hockey guy than mc d or stan

Me neither
......
- southernhawk

I am guessing the Devils were just clearing out players.

-Foster is a bottom pairing guy
-Veilleux is in the minors right now pushing 30
-Palmieri is a big, get to the net type player who is still young. He's a player I'd be interested in.

Then a #2 and a #3.

Completely bizarre what NJ did there.

And this stands as the main question?

You guys dont think totaling demolishing the front offices getting a new president a new GM and a new coach doesnt take this team FARTHER away from a cup in the foreseeable future and Im not talking this year year Im talking thats at least another 3-5 year rebuild. Or do we think it will be a seemless transition and the players will ultimately decide the outcome of the games under a new regime.

tell me how many other teams market themselves using the gm as the face of the franchise?
- molly2522

The GM is the face of the Blackhawks?

rocky will have a pretty good idea i think who he would target for gm and president prior to making the move.
rocky is more of a hockey guy than mc d or stan
- molly2522

Im not buying it. Thats a lot of moving pieces and if its the players who ultimately decide the outcomes of games well then who cares.

I just think a complete re tool moves them FARTHER from a cup for a while.

So does anyone know what dudley is doing?
- mvp0207

I think he's working with Burke in T.O.

The GM is the face of the Blackhawks?
- pri$ey

No he meant Mc D which I dont agree with either.

The GM is the face of the Blackhawks?
- pri$ey

was referring to mc d
i stand correctedi

So does anyone know what dudley is doing?
- mvp0207

He's working for Burkie in TO.

I think he's working with Burke in T.O.
- pri$ey

What do you think Prisey are you on the blow it all up train. And start firing from McD on down?

The GM is the face of the Blackhawks?
- pri$ey

Were in trouble ....

was referring to mc d
i stand correctedi
- molly2522

Mc D doesn't do much though he has blunk and other guys out there doing most of the PR stuff? I dont see McD as the face of the Hawks.

Were in trouble ....
- southernhawk

That was a question not a statement.

Im not buying it. Thats a lot of moving pieces and if its the players who ultimately decide the outcomes of games well then who cares.

I just think a complete re tool moves them FARTHER from a cup for a while.
- mvp0207

If the presumed situation of decisions by committee is the way of things on Madison currently, then I seriously doubt the validity of the current model.

If scouting takes a short term hit, so be it. The Hawks are well stocked with prospects at this time. As has been noted, there aren't enough spots for even half of them if they pan out.

Get a GM who can put together a cohesive team without the glaring weaknesses we've seen the last two years. Also, bring in a coach (or promote Haviland if he's the guy) who will work to the players' strengths and not try to force them into "his" system. I think they could easily be cup contenders next year.

does anyone think bowman would be a hot commodity if he was fired on the gm front
does anyone think he would get an offer as a gm?

Were in trouble ....
- southernhawk

Hows the weather down in Tuscaloosa, It snowed up here today, sucks.

Maybe Vancouver will get Ott ....And we'll call up pirri and call it a day

does anyone think bowman would be a hot commodity if he was fired on the gm front
does anyone think he would get an offer as a gm?
- molly2522

He was named after Lord Stanely's Cup. So hes got that going for him.

Maybe Vancouver will get Ott ....And we'll call up pirri and call it a day
- southernhawk

Ott in Vancouver is really kinda frightening.

does anyone think bowman would be a hot commodity if he was fired on the gm front
does anyone think he would get an offer as a gm?
- molly2522

In all seriousness, the Bowman name is still a sacred cow in the hockey world dont know if he'll get a GM job immeidalty but I assure you he wont have trouble finding work.

If the presumed situation of decisions by committee is the way of things on Madison currently, then I seriously doubt the validity of the current model.

If scouting takes a short term hit, so be it. The Hawks are well stocked with prospects at this time. As has been noted, there aren't enough spots for even half of them if they pan out.

Get a GM who can put together a cohesive team without the glaring weaknesses we've seen the last two years. Also, bring in a coach (or promote Haviland if he's the guy) who will work to the players' strengths and not try to force them into "his" system. I think they could easily be cup contenders next year.
- NewToHockey

nice post

speaking for myself only the reason i am so frustrated is i think the hawks could have been one of the favorites with a few moves

and to make it worse vancouver has a very good shot of winning the cup

He was named after Lord Stanely's Cup. So he got that going for him.
- mvp0207

Gunga galunga.

What do you think Prisey are you on the blow it all up train. And start firing from McD on down?
- mvp0207

I fail to see what problems McD is causing..

I'm beginning my climb down to one side of the fence on Bowman though.. and it isn't good.

Still time to to do something but I'm beginning to fear he is going to be left behind come Monday afternoon.

Hows the weather down in Tuscaloosa, It snowed up here today, sucks.
- mvp0207

Its nice in the winter
highs in low 50,s...lows 30,s...

Its the long hot as hell summer that sux...97 -103 with like 90% humidity

If the presumed situation of decisions by committee is the way of things on Madison currently, then I seriously doubt the validity of the current model.

If scouting takes a short term hit, so be it. The Hawks are well stocked with prospects at this time. As has been noted, there aren't enough spots for even half of them if they pan out.

Get a GM who can put together a cohesive team without the glaring weaknesses we've seen the last two years. Also, bring in a coach (or promote Haviland if he's the guy) who will work to the players' strengths and not try to force them into "his" system. I think they could easily be cup contenders next year.
- NewToHockey

I respect that I disagree and Im pretty sure this regime as at least a couple years left before any major reshuffles take place. But Im just trying to get to the nuts and bolts and besides saying Stan sucks getting to the real ideas of where we think the organization should go. With real questions and real answers. That was a logical reply.

With the His system comment you are referring to Q.