Let's put away all the hate and agree (at least East teams) that we all really don't want Boston to get Dustin Brown. That would be....pretty (frank)ing bad for the rest of us.
- clarkysduster

Vancouver Police brace themselves......

If I knew it all, I'd have billions and I'd be sipping mai tai's on my own beach in Bora Bora.

Stats don't tell the whole story. You're right. As far as Jack Johnson goes, he is not our second best defenseman. He could have had the potential to be at some point, but what he has shown since being a King is not 2nd best. I'm sorry. Not that this disproves you on it's own, but you will be hardpressed to find a Kings fan who would agree with you. I was one of the only guys who ever backed Johnson if you want to know the truth.

I called you out on the Mike Green / Matt Greene thing only because you said you follow the Kings and you'd think you'd know the name. Not a big deal, just found it humorous.
- StayTunedMTC

So you think CBJ would have taken Scuderi or Mitchell + a 1st for Carter? Johnson was the Kings second best D-Man. Kings fans may have disagreed but, Leafs fans will say Phaneuf isn't our best defensmen or Kessel isn't our best forward even though they clearly are.

You're looking at like 7 mill for Price I think....
and Subban may have all the tools to be an all star, but given his poopty attitude and terrible play this year, it's yet to be seen if he'll become anything special.
- clarkysduster

I'd be real surprised to see Price get 7 mil a year at this point (could happen, but I'd still be really surprised) and PK's only in his second year. Already he's our leader in TOI every night and, with the exception of a bad stretch of games in the middle of the year, brings it like a top tier D. Right now, he's not a bonafide number 1 D, but our #1 has been on the IR for like a thousand years so he's forced to try to be already (hence his "poopty" play)

i'm waiting for 1967 to chime in
- bobbyisno1

At least you can say "At least we won..."

I stand in the back trying to hide behind people hoping they don't notice.

"At least we went to the Finals once!" doesn't sound that good.

So who could Burke actually pick up if Brown and Nash and unavailable? Are there any more big scoring forwards that might be available??

I think they sold low on Johnson considering he is 24 years old and still a few years away from his prime....
- Lipchitz

You could be right. But seeing how Voynov looks ready, Jack became expendable since the serve a similar role. It just comes down to prospect depth at D vs absolutely no depth at the wings.

At least you can say "At least we won..."

I stand in the back trying to hide behind people hoping they don't notice.

"At least we went to the Finals once!" doesn't sound that good.
- StayTunedMTC

the devils have only been to the finals 4 times won three though

Wanna know what I hate most about LA? They have THREE 1st line centers...Greedy bastards
- clarkysduster

And they might not make it to the party...what does that say about the Leafs?.....let me spell it out....GOALTENDING

So who could Burke actually pick up if Brown and Nash and unavailable? Are there any more big scoring forwards that might be available??
- steven3266

i dunno about scoring forwards but our 3rd line needs complete retooling... i read somehwere that moen is not being traded but ive heard gaustad and ott might be available... id love to see those guys on the leafs... they would definitely help the "team defence"

- BingoLady

HOW DID YOU GET IN THE TSN STUDIO!!!!?????

You could be right. But seeing how Voynov looks ready, Jack became expendable since the serve a similar role. It just comes down to prospect depth at D vs absolutely no depth at the wings.
- cryptical77

How many young D-man look ready before the playoffs? He might be great but you should never rely on a rookie to step up in the playoffs. It's a completely different beast. Whether you guys want Schenn or not you is irrelevant, should be looking for help on the blueline.

So you think CBJ would have taken Scuderi or Mitchell + a 1st for Carter? Johnson was the Kings second best D-Man. Kings fans may have disagreed but, Leafs fans will say Phaneuf isn't our best defensmen or Kessel isn't our best forward even though they clearly are.
- Lipchitz

I don't know if they would or not.

But the way our D pairing works is one offensive Dman paired with one stay at home D. With Voynov being a puck moving D and showing he deserved to have minutes, I think that is why they made the deal with Johnson.

I don't think the deal get's made with the other guys because from what I heard (which could all be bs I know) they wanted a young impact D from our team and neither Scuderi or Mitchell fit that bill.

Believe it or not, but Scud's and Willie are a bigger part to the success of our back end than Doughty or Johnson are in my opinion. Purely defensive reasons mind you.. not offensively.

golfingsince?
- dmarsden2988

no, silly. post 1967 so i can chime in

I'd be real surprised to see Price get 7 mil a year at this point (could happen, but I'd still be really surprised) and PK's only in his second year. Already he's our leader in TOI every night and, with the exception of a bad stretch of games in the middle of the year, brings it like a top tier D. Right now, he's not a bonafide number 1 D, but our #1 has been on the IR for like a thousand years so he's forced to try to be already (hence his "poopty" play)
- Saundies

I just think it's going to be a bit of a stalemate because Price doesn't seem like he's the guy that's going to want term...and I've heard 7 million a few times, but it's just speculation I suppose.
And you're right about Subban. He can be a stud...he's just such a Richard. His cockiness used to be attributed to confidence, but it's seeming more like a personality flaw. What you guys really need is a grizzled vet like Pronger who would put him in his place and stop him from self-destructing before he reaches his potential. And Markov was great (though not the influence i think PK really needs) but it's almost time to cut ties with him and free up that cap space.

no, silly. post 1967 so i can chime in
- bobbyisno1

Toronto sucks. Haven't won since 1967.

Happy? lol.

no, silly. post 1967 so i can chime in
- bobbyisno1

Your pro pic is hypnotic, whenever you post I completely forget about hockey for a few seconds!!

Kopitar is not a Dustin Brown type player.

So what you're pretty much saying is you'd rather have a guy who hits as opposed to a guy that puts up points.

No thanks.
- StayTunedMTC

Good job reading the post. Of course I want Points and kopitar doesnt get em. Please.... if this guy played with an ounce of passion/grit/determination, hed have 90pts a year.

And they might not make it to the party...what does that say about the Leafs?.....let me spell it out....GOALTENDING
- JIMI-JAMES

I'd take any one of them on the Leafs in a (frank)ing heartbeat.

Good job reading the post. Of course I want Points and kopitar doesnt get em. Please.... if this guy played with an ounce of passion/grit/determination, hed have 90pts a year.
- kings#7

Kopitar doesn't get points... alright. I guess someone else has led the Kings in points the last few years. My bad.

That's like bashing one of the Sedin twins because they aren't Dustin Brown type physical players.

They have different styles. Kopitar was never meant to be a physical player like that.

I don't know if they would or not.

But the way our D pairing works is one offensive Dman paired with one stay at home D. With Voynov being a puck moving D and showing he deserved to have minutes, I think that is why they made the deal with Johnson.

I don't think the deal get's made with the other guys because from what I heard (which could all be bs I know) they wanted a young impact D from our team and neither Scuderi or Mitchell fit that bill.

Believe it or not, but Scud's and Willie are a bigger part to the success of our back end than Doughty or Johnson are in my opinion. Purely defensive reasons mind you.. not offensively.
- StayTunedMTC

Doughty + Schenn would be one of the best pairings in the NHL for this exact reason. Schenn's physicality would be welcomed on LA's back end (or any team's for that matter) especially during a playoff drive.

And they might not make it to the party...what does that say about the Leafs?.....let me spell it out....GOALTENDING
- JIMI-JAMES

Apparently they're not hot on Bernier because he doesn't fall under the almighty and unquestionable Allaire style...Look for a Lindback kind of guy coming back i suppose

How many young D-man look ready before the playoffs? He might be great but you should never rely on a rookie to step up in the playoffs. It's a completely different beast. Whether you guys want Schenn or not you is irrelevant, should be looking for help on the blueline.
- Lipchitz

True, but what is more dangerous - relying on 1 rookie added to the blueline, or a forward corps that can't score a goal to save their lives? Seeing how many 1 goal games the kings have lost so far, I see no change coming for the playoffs without serious help up front. To trade away one of our top 6 to plug a possible hole on D seems to me like a far quicker route to failure. Immediately speaking anyway.

Doughty + Schenn would be one of the best pairings in the NHL for this exact reason. Schenn's physicality would be welcomed on LA's back end (or any team's for that matter) especially during a playoff drive.
- Lipchitz

I hear you, but you just got done saying a few posts ago regarding Voynov that the playoffs are a whole different ball game and that (paraphrasing here b/c I forgot exactly what you said) young guys might not be able to handle it.

Which is why we have Scuds and Mitchell. 2 guys almost any team would want to go to war with in the playoffs. I don't want an unproven in Schenn who has been a healthy scratch this year.

I guess my question is... what has Schenn proven so far that he deserves to be Doughty's partner over Scuds and Willie?

Apparently they're not hot on Bernier because he doesn't fall under the almighty and unquestionable Allaire style...Look for a Lindback kind of guy coming back i suppose
- clarkysduster

Frank Allaire...
optimus was awesome before that guy tried to remake him

its common knowledge parise is going to test the market?

id love to hear where you hear that

Lou doesnt talk contracts till the season is over, and parise has said he knows that is the way Lou works and he will work with him when the season is over if not before

not once has he said anything that resembles him wanting to test the market, that is speculation
- dmarsden2988

And I'd love to tell you where I heard that.