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GoFlyersGoSlovakia
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 9:11 AM ET
Is Timonen injured? He looks slow as molasses out there. Either that or he is completely out of gas. Not sure which is worse
tangent_man
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey
Joined: 11.28.2007

Feb 24 @ 9:11 AM ET
Ilya Bryzgalov did his part last night, coming up with numerous tough stops among the 28 saves he made. While Jordan Eberle's deep-slot goal off a Braydon Coburn turnover (the puck went off Matt Read's directly to Eberle) was potentially stoppable, it was a good shot by a talented player.


Not to pick nits, but it was Briere (along the boards) to whom Coburn attempted that pass, and the skate was his.

And yes, Bryzgalov was fine last night.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 24 @ 9:11 AM ET
See my post to brad.. i think a big reason he ends up fighting pucks is that he cant get a good look at the puck. I thought he was aggressive last night and did what he needed to do to get a win. The team didnt follow suit.
- jak521

jak, he can't track the puck at times. the pucks pop up in the air and he doesn't know where they are going. that's on him, not his teammates. I thought he took a step forward, but I am not going to artificially lower my expectations for any NHL goalie.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 9:12 AM ET
anyone hear that the flyers may try to get d brown from la??
- griouxmvp2012

If it costs JvR I would say no
MrBuzzcut
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 04.04.2007

Feb 24 @ 9:15 AM ET
Dreger Twitter on Dustin Brown:

A quality young d-man and solid secondary scorer part of what might land Brown. He's worth it. #TradeCentre

Too rich for my blood

- hereticpride


The lack of a quality young d-man makes it too rich for the Flyers' blood!
Daceroni
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: AB
Joined: 11.20.2006

Feb 24 @ 9:15 AM ET
I was at the game last night and I have to disagree with Bill on Bryzgalov's performance, he did not look especially good and I was gasping at some of the routine saves he did not make routine. He should have stopped Taylor Hall's goal for sure, he did not follow the puck off the boards very well and should have been on that side of the net not allowing any room for Hall to shoot.
I just noticed Briere's inability to win a face off in the replies as well and was going to comment on that as every draw he took he lost cleanly which is somewhat disheartening.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:16 AM ET
If it costs JvR I would say no
- Jsaquella

If they're asking for a solid young D man and a secondary scorer(as Dreager is reporting) I don't think it's a move the Flyers can make. TBH I think Nashville should be all over that tho.
GoFlyersGoSlovakia
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 9:17 AM ET
I was at the game last night and I have to disagree with Bill on Bryzgalov's performance, he did not look especially good and I was gasping at some of the routine saves he did not make routine. He should have stopped Taylor Hall's goal for sure, he did not follow the puck off the boards very well and should have been on that side of the net not allowing any room for Hall to shoot.
I just noticed Briere's inability to win a face off in the replies as well and was going to comment on that as every draw he took he lost cleanly which is somewhat disheartening.

- Daceroni


were you with one of those blondes they showed on CSN last night?

griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:18 AM ET
If they're asking for a solid young D man and a secondary scorer(as Dreager is reporting) I don't think it's a move the Flyers can make. TBH I think Nashville should be all over that tho.
- hereticpride

gus/mab+jake v??
jesustouchedme
Location: me0w
Joined: 02.09.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:18 AM ET
The lack of a quality young d-man makes it too rich for the Flyers' blood!
- MrBuzzcut

Trading your captain, while you bring in a nutcase, is sending the wrong message to your team.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:20 AM ET
Trading your captain, while you bring in a nutcase, is sending the wrong message to your team.
- jesustouchedme

i dont know i heard they were taking offers for him and the flyers would be interested
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Feb 24 @ 9:21 AM ET
jak, he can't track the puck at times. the pucks pop up in the air and he doesn't know where they are going. that's on him, not his teammates. I thought he took a step forward, but I am not going to artificially lower my expectations for any NHL goalie.
- isaiah520



I saw a few of those as well last night. Do you think he may be having trouble judging the black puck against the new black glove? Any goalies on this board ever use a black glove before?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:21 AM ET
gus/mab+jake v??
- griouxmvp2012

I don't think so. When they say solid I think they mean someone playing top 4 defense. For us I think that would mean a deal along the lines of Carle/Voracek.
aantny88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Suck it Phaneuf, PA
Joined: 03.14.2008

Feb 24 @ 9:23 AM ET
it's just you.

Evidently not!

Coburn/Timonen pairing has been awful of late. Coburn has been making bonehead plays and Kimmo just looks like he's out of gas.

- phi1671
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Feb 24 @ 9:24 AM ET
bill, thoughts on cartsy to LA?
- OrangeBlack27


Party at Richies place!
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:24 AM ET
I don't think so. When they say solid I think they mean someone playing top 4 defense. For us I think that would mean a deal along the lines of Carle/Voracek.
- hereticpride

yea but the reason they are shopping him is for salary cap reasons so in that deal they would be taking back more salary
GoFlyersGoSlovakia
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.28.2008

Feb 24 @ 9:26 AM ET
Party at Richies place!
- Dkos


LA is full of pornstars too
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 24 @ 9:27 AM ET
yea but the reason they are shopping him is for salary cap reasons so in that deal they would be taking back more salary
- griouxmvp2012


They still have $2.7mm in cap room to add pieces in the near future(i.e. deadline).

The key may well be to be able to resign Quick and recoup some draft picks.
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 24 @ 9:28 AM ET
jak, he can't track the puck at times. the pucks pop up in the air and he doesn't know where they are going. that's on him, not his teammates. I thought he took a step forward, but I am not going to artificially lower my expectations for any NHL goalie.
- isaiah520

Im not "artificially lowering" my expectations of Bryz. I think that over the better part of a month he has been very strong.. He has let in a few weak ones still, but he hasnt been terrible. A lot of times tracking the puck is a matter of getting in a position to see the puck.. and I feel as though he did that. Typically when a goalie struggles to control rebounds it is because he is late to react.. which is normally what happens when they struggle to track the puck. My point was that the defense did a lot of standing around in front of the net last night. Either get there and block a shot, or GTFO of the goalies way. Clear the net.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Feb 24 @ 9:28 AM ET
yea but the reason they are shopping him is for salary cap reasons so in that deal they would be taking back more salary
- griouxmvp2012

Yeah, I just don't think we have the pieces then. They'll get offered a much better D man than Gus methinks. Voracek might be the best forward offer they get tho.
Vipers53
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 10.13.2010

Feb 24 @ 9:30 AM ET
What the Fregosi is going on with these Flyers?

phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Feb 24 @ 9:36 AM ET
[quote=aantny88]

/sarcasm
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Feb 24 @ 9:38 AM ET
debatable whether the eberle goal was weak, but even still, some big saves and just one soft goal is absolutely a building-block effort at this point.

you could see the flyers were in trouble the first shift of the second period. after they completely carried the play in the first, they disappeared. it was embarrassing to watch. if they worked even a little hard as a unit, they would have been able to generate chances against that club.

- OrangeBlack27


It's perception. If someone wants to call it a building block, so be it. Whatever it takes to get him right.
CaptEO
Commissioner
Joined: 09.15.2005

Feb 24 @ 9:39 AM ET
It's perception. If someone wants to call it a building block, so be it. Whatever it takes to get him right.
- bradleyc4



working on a couple tech issues here...Thanks
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Feb 24 @ 9:41 AM ET
LA is full of pornstars too
- GoFlyersGoSlovakia



I picture a beach scene, like in Rocky III, with Peaches and Herb singing "Reunited and it Feels So Good" playing in the background
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