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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:07 AM ET
Fair enough. But I wouldn't have moved Johnson for Carter, let alone throwing a 1st in.
- micah555

That's bad deal there.
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Feb 24 @ 12:08 AM ET
Can we ban Beatle John for his bad jokes.

ONly Joking BJ

- VANTEL



ROTF!!!!!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:08 AM ET
if there is an auto-delete setting.... you may want to set that up for any posts I make after 11pm
- kneughter

ATTA BOY
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 24 @ 12:08 AM ET
Considering the cap is going up 5 mil next year Gillis could match it
- VANTEL


Why? Then he cant even trade his 4 mil back up til the following season. It would never happen...he takes the picks.
kneughter
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: “yup call came in, but as pe
Joined: 07.14.2009

Feb 24 @ 12:09 AM ET
What a great game tonight.... a lot of energy.... detroit fans keep pointing to the missed offside, and no datsyuk
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:10 AM ET
Why? Then he cant even trade his 4 mil back up til the following season. It would never happen...he takes the picks.
- boonerbuck

Where in the CBA does it say that .I looked high and low but never found that statement about can not trade a player after re-signing.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:11 AM ET
Time will tell. I honestly don't think Johnson is that good defensively (I think I heard he's a -93 life time on a Kings team that regularly been around the top of GAA) so it's not like they sold the farm. Plus Johnson is on 4.3 so it's only a slight increase in the Kings' cap.
- AlexF


Sure, but Johnson is a 25 year old Dman with big offensive upside. He's also 6'1 231lbs. He's a big strong dude who's likely to get better. Carter? We'll see if he gets back to his potential.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:12 AM ET
if there is an auto-delete setting.... you may want to set that up for any posts I make after 11pm
- kneughter


There's actually a 4 hour ban. It's like a drunk tank for posters!
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 24 @ 12:12 AM ET
Where in the CBA does it say that .I looked high and low but never found that statement about can not trade a player after re-signing.
- VANTEL


If you match an offer, you cannot trade them for that season. Same thing we went through with Kesler. It's in the CBA and was pre current CBA.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:12 AM ET
What a great game tonight.... a lot of energy.... detroit fans keep pointing to the missed offside, and no datsyuk
- kneughter

Did you point out the missed call on Kronwalls attempt to injure?
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Feb 24 @ 12:12 AM ET
Why? Then he cant even trade his 4 mil back up til the following season. It would never happen...he takes the picks.
- boonerbuck



Say what? The Cap is going up? What? Is that opinion or expectation?

I think teh new CBA will include a "Franchise Player" and allow someone's contract to not count in the cap. It would reward teams that actually have a solid fan base and money to spend and also allow a GM a mulligan if they overpay someone to the point they are untradeable.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 24 @ 12:12 AM ET
There's actually a 4 hour ban. It's like a drunk tank for posters!
- micah555


There's been times I would have used that on myself...sober even.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:13 AM ET
If you match an offer, you cannot trade them for that season. Same thing we went through with Kesler. It's in the CBA and was pre current CBA.
- boonerbuck

I looked for that rule in the CBA but could not find it.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:13 AM ET
There's been times I would have used that on myself...sober even.
- boonerbuck

been there done that
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Feb 24 @ 12:13 AM ET


I thought you would get it... considering you are one of the few level headed canucks fans who don't get banned on a regular basis.

Nice for us to have one, ill keep things clean in here from now on.

- kneughter


It came down to me and Micah... he went the extra distance to get the job, if you know what I mean.
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:13 AM ET
Where in the CBA does it say that .I looked high and low but never found that statement about can not trade a player after re-signing.
- VANTEL


You can't trade a player after matching an offer sheet.

However, I think the Canucks can do arbitration. If they use it, offers can't be made.
Scooby_Doo
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Somewhere close to Vancouver., BC
Joined: 06.10.2009

Feb 24 @ 12:14 AM ET
There's actually a 4 hour ban. It's like a drunk tank for posters!
- micah555


Have you banned anyone yet?
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Feb 24 @ 12:15 AM ET
There's been times I would have used that on myself...sober even.
- boonerbuck



HOLY SMOKES BOOMER ---- you got me in trouble the other night when that Leafs fan went loopy on the testical count of his team. He went loopier after you left. I wanted to write a "You Mad Bro"... but I think it would have killed him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:16 AM ET
Say what? The Cap is going up? What? Is that opinion or expectation?

I think teh new CBA will include a "Franchise Player" and allow someone's contract to not count in the cap. It would reward teams that actually have a solid fan base and money to spend and also allow a GM a mulligan if they overpay someone to the point they are untradeable.

- Beatle_john



Can you imagine the family fights at the Sedins household when Daniel finds out Hank is the Franchise Player.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 24 @ 12:16 AM ET
You can't trade a player after matching an offer sheet.

However, I think the Canucks can do arbitration. If they use it, offers can't be made.

- micah555


Can you take someone to arbitration July 1st?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:17 AM ET
You can't trade a player after matching an offer sheet.
However, I think the Canucks can do arbitration. If they use it, offers can't be made.

- micah555

I use to belive that .I told some blog that ,a while back and they said prove it show where in the CBA it says that .I never found it .
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Feb 24 @ 12:18 AM ET
Can you imagine the family fights at the Sedins household when Daniel finds out Hank is the Franchise Player.
- VANTEL



yes... one might actually raise his voice.... or maybe an eyebrow... maybe....

But a rule like that would allow teams that spend to the cap to add a player like Nash.... then again... then maybe you would have two franchise players..... crap, I just defeated my own arguement. "Me Mad Bro"
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:18 AM ET
It came down to me and Micah... he went the extra distance to get the job, if you know what I mean.
- Scooby_Doo

boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Feb 24 @ 12:18 AM ET
I use to belive that .I told some blog that ,a while back and they said prove it show where in the CBA it says that .I never found it .
- VANTEL


Thats why teams hire lawyers to read that book....
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:19 AM ET
Can you take someone to arbitration July 1st?
- boonerbuck

I thik you apply for arb and the arbitrator sets the dates
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