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brooaar
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: QC
Joined: 07.28.2009

Feb 24 @ 12:54 AM ET
Not sure how a mid 1st round pick is gonna make a difference if you finish 8th or 9th in the East? So you pick 14th instead of 15th?

1st pick at that spot probably will not be jumping into the lineup next year and be an impact player

Flyers were 7th Seed and the Habs were the 8th seed 2 playoffs ago - they were the Eastern finalists - just get in - anything can happen

- MTL1


agree with all this, that hab run was someting else.
T.Fleury
Calgary Flames
Location: Oxbow, SK
Joined: 11.26.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:54 AM ET
yes because so many gms make offer sheets and it works out so often.
- basementfloor

What the (frank) you talkin about Willis?! Look at Lowe and Penner... Pancake-boy went on to have 4 35-plus goal seasons amd 2 Cups!
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Feb 24 @ 12:55 AM ET
Not sure how a mid 1st round pick is gonna make a difference if you finish 8th or 9th in the East? So you pick 14th instead of 15th?

1st pick at that spot probably will not be jumping into the lineup next year and be an impact player

Flyers were 7th Seed and the Habs were the 8th seed 2 playoffs ago - they were the Eastern finalists - just get in - anything can happen

- MTL1



That's a fair argument. But on the other hand, what's Montreal done since? I don't want a team that might pull a miracle run. I'd rather see a team that does it in the regular season along with the playoffs...a lot easier said than done, I know.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:58 AM ET
Its not that great - and the better ones will be signed long before they get to UFA day on July 1
- MTL1


http://www.capgeek.com/fr...sition_id=-1&fa_type_id=2

Are you insane?

I agree that most will be locked up before 2013 UFA season (depending on what the new CBA looks like), but to say it's not looking that great right now is ridiculous.

You could build an all-star team out of that group.
T.Fleury
Calgary Flames
Location: Oxbow, SK
Joined: 11.26.2010

Feb 24 @ 12:59 AM ET
That's a fair argument. But on the other hand, what's Montreal done since? I don't want a team that might pull a miracle run. I'd rather see a team that does it in the regular season along with the playoffs...a lot easier said than done, I know.
- weirdoh

Translation... Gomez.. Gardiner, Holzer, Aulie, Franson for Redden.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:00 AM ET
they all share a dream... the dream of one day donning the blue and white.....
- basementfloor

weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:00 AM ET
Translation... Gomez.. Gardiner, Holzer, Aulie, Franson for Redden.
- T.Fleury




MLB 12 is on it's way. You grabbing it?
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:00 AM ET
That's a fair argument. But on the other hand, what's Montreal done since? I don't want a team that might pull a miracle run. I'd rather see a team that does it in the regular season along with the playoffs...a lot easier said than done, I know.
- weirdoh


Well they followed that up by a 7 game series against eventual cup champs the Bruins last year - this year has just been a mess for the obvious and not so obvious reasons - they will be back next year - you have to remember its a business now - these owners need the playoff gate revenues - cap teams cant afford to just spend to the cap every year and not make it in
basementfloor
Montreal Canadiens
Location: My Big Mac only had one meat and too much special sauce :(
Joined: 08.05.2009

Feb 24 @ 1:00 AM ET
http://www.capgeek.com/fr...sition_id=-1&fa_type_id=2

Are you insane?

I agree that most will be locked up before 2013 UFA season (depending on what the new CBA looks like), but to say it's not looking that great right now is ridiculous.

You could build an all-star team out of that group.

- Leeman4Gilmour

you're right, even Tim Connolly's on there.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:01 AM ET


agree with all this, that hab run was someting else.

- brooaar

the leafs poopting 7 out of 8 games is something else too

basementfloor
Montreal Canadiens
Location: My Big Mac only had one meat and too much special sauce :(
Joined: 08.05.2009

Feb 24 @ 1:01 AM ET
the leafs poopting 7 out of 8 games is something else too
- twiztedmike

brooaar
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: QC
Joined: 07.28.2009

Feb 24 @ 1:01 AM ET
That's a fair argument. But on the other hand, what's Montreal done since? I don't want a team that might pull a miracle run. I'd rather see a team that does it in the regular season along with the playoffs...a lot easier said than done, I know.
- weirdoh



Lost to Boston in overtime of game 7 last year. Montreal misses the playoffs once every 10 years anyway.
T.Fleury
Calgary Flames
Location: Oxbow, SK
Joined: 11.26.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:02 AM ET
MLB 12 is on it's way. You grabbing it?
- weirdoh

Still busy slaying robot chickens on a beach with my 8-foot sword.
T.Fleury
Calgary Flames
Location: Oxbow, SK
Joined: 11.26.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:03 AM ET
you're right, even Tim Connolly's on there.
- basementfloor

13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:03 AM ET
sounds good, as long as we don't lose the chemistry
- brooaar


Well, chemistry was the wrong word, but I think the team is on a certain track and I wouldnt want to blow it up right now. They play for each other and overall I'm fairly happy with where the team is going. This is not a Columbus situation, if they do aquire players, I'd want them to fit into the plan and not move backwards just to try to squeak into the playoffs. They're in a funk right now, but to judge the entire team and season based on a bad stretch would be ridiculous. Just as ridiculous as people judging them for having a stretch of good games at the end of last year.
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:05 AM ET
That's a fair argument. But on the other hand, what's Montreal done since? I don't want a team that might pull a miracle run. I'd rather see a team that does it in the regular season along with the playoffs...a lot easier said than done, I know.
- weirdoh

(frank) playoffs

its another year of bullpoop. false hope, except at least this year it wasn't given to us all the way up into the last game. at least now we know.

!@#$!@#$!@$!@$!@#$@#$

Someone should do a study. Are Leaf fans more likely to become alcoholics than a Wings or Bruins fan. Everytime its HNIC Saturday night, and they crap the bed (which is all the time) I ended up getting pooptered cause I get mad and pound whiskey

When the D or Goaltending is ON, the offense is (frank)ing sucking balls. When the offense rolls, well guess what? a miracle 20 giveaways and a poopty G performance.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:05 AM ET
http://www.capgeek.com/fr...sition_id=-1&fa_type_id=2

Are you insane?

I agree that most will be locked up before 2013 UFA season (depending on what the new CBA looks like), but to say it's not looking that great right now is ridiculous.

You could build an all-star team out of that group.

- Leeman4Gilmour


Most of those guys are already early to mid 30s and when the time comes for July 2013 they will be even older - cant sign them to 5/6 year contracts

Jordan Staal and Edler are the 2 young guys off of that list that you can sign for 5/6 years and expect their output to last the length of the contract - but they will be signed way before they get to July 1 2013
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:06 AM ET
Lost to Boston in overtime of game 7 last year. Montreal misses the playoffs once every 10 years anyway.
- brooaar




Fair enough, they almost beat the cup champs last year. If that's what the goal of a team is then all the power to them. We shall agree to disagree.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:06 AM ET
you're right, even Tim Connolly's on there.
- basementfloor


Yeah, Scott Gomez and Brian Gionta, too.

Oh, wait... that's the 2014 UFA list. Just two more years. Keep the faith!
weirdoh
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.09.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:07 AM ET
Yeah, Scott Gomez and Brian Gionta, too.

Oh, wait... that's the 2014 UFA list. Just two more years. Keep the faith!

- Leeman4Gilmour



I actually like that one.
As_I_See_It
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.28.2011

Feb 24 @ 1:07 AM ET
CROSBY
IGINLA
PERRY
FISHER
HARTNELL

I bet you they all re-sign. They all always do...

- twiztedmike


Ahhhh? And you forgot:
J Staal
Getzlaf
Edler
Horton
Zajac
Quick
Lupul
Roy
Lehtonen
Weiss
Clowe
Burrows
Howard
Enstrom

ALL of which are under 30!

2014's UFA list looks pretty solid too.

Between these two years a few teams around the NHL will undergo QUICK rebuilds.
MTL1
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Brampton, ON
Joined: 06.30.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:07 AM ET
(frank) playoffs

its another year of bullpoop. false hope, except at least this year it wasn't given to us all the way up into the last game. at least now we know.

!@#$!@#$!@$!@$!@#$@#$

Someone should do a study. Are Leaf fans more likely to become alcoholics than a Wings or Bruins fan. Everytime its HNIC Saturday night, and they crap the bed (which is all the time) I ended up getting pooptered cause I get mad and pound whiskey

When the D or Goaltending is ON, the offense is (frank)ing sucking balls. When the offense rolls, well guess what? a miracle 20 giveaways and a poopty G performance.

- twiztedmike


Well you guys have Glenn Healey to throw some sunshine your way when the Leafs lose
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 24 @ 1:07 AM ET
Most of those guys are already early to mid 30s and when the time comes for July 2013 they will be even older - cant sign them to 5/6 year contracts

Jordan Staal and Edler are the 2 young guys off of that list that you can sign for 5/6 years and expect their output to last the length of the contract - but they will be signed way before they get to July 1 2013

- MTL1

Worst part is? 2012 FA crop is utter poop.

Theres just no hope in sight
T.Fleury
Calgary Flames
Location: Oxbow, SK
Joined: 11.26.2010

Feb 24 @ 1:08 AM ET
Yeah, Scott Gomez and Brian Gionta, too.

Oh, wait... that's the 2014 UFA list. Just two more years. Keep the faith!

- Leeman4Gilmour

13sundin13
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 24 @ 1:08 AM ET


agree with all this, that hab run was someting else.

- brooaar


I'd take a cup win over a great playoff run...

The proof is in the stats, cinderella teams have very rarely actually won the cup, they may get close, but in the end, the better team will win 99% of the time when it counts.
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