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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 23 @ 11:56 PM ET
If we do nothing at center but draft Galchenyuk...
Our centers two years from now could be him, Ennis & Adam
Assuming Ennis & Adam work out, which I believe they will...
That's pretty decent... And inexpensive for the production you'll get

Do the stafford + trade for Brown
Offseason- Roy, pysyk, Sekera, pick for Shea Weber
Convince Parise to come, dump leino for nothing

Our lineup in 2 years...
Vanek-Ennis-Pominville
Parise-Adam-Brown
Armia-Galchenyuk-Kassian
Gerbe-Goose-kaleta / Tropp / Foligno
Ehrhoff-S.weber
McNabb-Myers
Brennan-m.weber / schiestel
Miller
Enroth

And I did the #s... It works as long as the cap goes up a little each year
RayHatesDomi
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tank You Very Much
Joined: 06.30.2009

Feb 23 @ 11:59 PM ET
Ok Nostradamus...

Tell me then, what if they beat both Bos and the NYR by Monday?


Will you then change your "loser mentality" tune?

- SuperCat


so what if Darcy stands pat and the Sabres squeek in to the playoffs?

What happens if the soft Sabres get bullied around and have another 1st rd exit? Will it have been worth it?
BigStew
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.09.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:00 AM ET
No, I think people like the idea of him coming here. If we were only allowed to talk about who wants to come here or who Darcy would be able to acquire in a trade, we'd have nothing to talk about
- RayHatesDomi


I'm not disputing that but people really seem to think that there is a good chance Parise would come here, I don't think there is a chance in hell of that happening.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:01 AM ET
So, Edm and Philly went to the cup finals and what did they win? oh yeah, nothing

It's not me saying it, it's history saying it. 6, 7, 8 seed never won the cup. 5th in conference, only twice. The worst team to ever win the cup was the 8th best team in the entire league. All facts, so sorry if I don't have faith that a team that has been garbage all year is all of a sudden gonna win the cup if they somehow manage to back into the playoffs

- RayHatesDomi


There's a first time for everything. No team with a non North American captain had won the cup until Detroit did in 07-08. Not saying it's gonna happen this year, but there's no saying some team won't/couldn't do it.
Homer
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Parts Unknown
Joined: 10.05.2006

Feb 24 @ 12:01 AM ET
If we do nothing at center but draft Galchenyuk...
Our centers two years from now could be him, Ennis & Adam
Assuming Ennis & Adam work out, which I believe they will...
That's pretty decent... And inexpensive for the production you'll get

Do the stafford + trade for Brown
Offseason- Roy, pysyk, Sekera, pick for Shea Weber
Convince Parise to come, dump leino for nothing

Our lineup in 2 years...
Vanek-Ennis-Pominville
Parise-Adam-Brown
Armia-Galchenyuk-Kassian
Gerbe-Goose-kaleta / Tropp / Foligno
Ehrhoff-S.weber
McNabb-Myers
Brennan-m.weber / schiestel
Miller
Enroth

And I did the #s... It works as long as the cap goes up a little each year

- jdfitz77


Shea Weber isnt going anywhere.
RayHatesDomi
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tank You Very Much
Joined: 06.30.2009

Feb 24 @ 12:02 AM ET
If we do nothing at center but draft Galchenyuk...
Our centers two years from now could be him, Ennis & Adam
Assuming Ennis & Adam work out, which I believe they will...
That's pretty decent... And inexpensive for the production you'll get

Do the stafford + trade for Brown
Offseason- Roy, pysyk, Sekera, pick for Shea Weber
Convince Parise to come, dump leino for nothing

Our lineup in 2 years...
Vanek-Ennis-Pominville
Parise-Adam-Brown
Armia-Galchenyuk-Kassian
Gerbe-Goose-kaleta / Tropp / Foligno
Ehrhoff-S.weber
McNabb-Myers
Brennan-m.weber / schiestel
Miller
Enroth

And I did the #s... It works as long as the cap goes up a little each year

- jdfitz77


I still think we look extremely weak up the middle. I never see Ennis being a #1 and at best I see Adam as a borderline #2 probably best suited for wing. I also don't like tying up all that money on wing. If we get Parise, Vanek needs to go. I'm all for moving Vanek even if we don't get Parise

Also, that's to much money on d IMO
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Feb 24 @ 12:03 AM ET
So, Edm and Philly went to the cup finals and what did they win? oh yeah, nothing

It's not me saying it, it's history saying it. 6, 7, 8 seed never won the cup. 5th in conference, only twice. The worst team to ever win the cup was the 8th best team in the entire league. All facts, so sorry if I don't have faith that a team that has been garbage all year is all of a sudden gonna win the cup if they somehow manage to back into the playoffs

- RayHatesDomi



Nothing..?

I hate to break it to you, but only one team can win the Cup in a given year.

and that fact doesn't relegate the rest of the league to insigniffigance.

Representing your conference is still relevance, and still earns a banner to your rafters by season's end.

By your logic, the sabres have never done a damn thing in their entire existance... They might as well be the Florida Panthers by your assesment...

Man am I glad I don't live in Buffalo with such a cynical perspective.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:04 AM ET
Shea Weber isnt going anywhere.
- Homer


Agreed. Though I think Nashville painted themselves into a corner with the Rinne contract.
RayHatesDomi
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tank You Very Much
Joined: 06.30.2009

Feb 24 @ 12:05 AM ET
Nothing..?

I hate to break it to you, but only one team can win the Cup in a given year.

and that fact doesn't relegate the rest of the league to insigniffigance.

Representing your conference is still relevance, and still earns a banner to your rafters by season's end.

By your logic, the sabres have never done a damn thing in their entire existance... They might as well be the Florida Panthers by your assesment...

Man am I glad I don't live in Buffalo with such a cynical perspective.

- SuperCat


You're not breaking anything to me smart guy. Believe it or not, I was actually aware that only one team wins the cup. I just thought that the Sabres goal is to win the cup. Maybe I was wrong. But hey, as long as we get a banner...YAY!!!
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Feb 24 @ 12:07 AM ET
Shea Weber isnt going anywhere.
- Homer



Suter then...


He is better defensively anyways.


Cut Boyes's $4 mill and Hecht's +$3 mill... And give Suter $6.5 mill to be Myers's rock and tutor. And maybe even this team's captain.

When did anahiem win The Cup? When they had Pronger and Neidamyer in fold. Creating the "best defense in the NHL" is reputable, especially for a team struggling to score goals.
RayHatesDomi
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tank You Very Much
Joined: 06.30.2009

Feb 24 @ 12:07 AM ET
Agreed. Though I think Nashville painted themselves into a corner with the Rinne contract.
- HonkFortheGoose


7 million for a goalie... to me it's never worth it. At least not in a cap league.
EricNearBuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Frig off, Ricky!, NY
Joined: 09.04.2011

Feb 24 @ 12:07 AM ET
No, will open up with a new owner and a remodel soon.
- SABRES 89


oh wow. thought it was toast for sure.

hope to get back there again once it reopens, place was sad and outdated when the wife and i walked thru when we were there last.
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Feb 24 @ 12:08 AM ET
You're not breaking anything to me smart guy. Believe it or not, I was actually aware that only one team wins the cup. I just thought that the Sabres goal is to win the cup. Maybe I was wrong. But hey, as long as we get a banner...YAY!!!
- RayHatesDomi



So then, by your own admission...


If you don't win The Cup, you're team was nothing?

And the sabres franchise is as accomplished as the Flordia Panthers?



What a sad perspective you live...
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:10 AM ET
Suter then...


He is better defensively anyways.


Cut Boyes's $4 mill and Hecht's +$3 mill... And give Suter $6.5 mill to be Myers's rock and tutor. And maybe even this team's captain.

When did anahiem win The Cup? When they had Pronger and Neidamyer in fold. Creating the "best defense in the NHL" is reputable, especially for a team struggling to score goals.

- SuperCat


A good portion of that money is already tied up in Myers extension and also with what Ennis will probably get. That doesn't leave a lot of extra left. Certainly not 6.5 mil.
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:11 AM ET
oh wow. thought it was toast for sure.

hope to get back there again once it reopens, place was sad and outdated when the wife and i walked thru when we were there last.

- EricNearBuffalo

Yes it was, the Nascar cafe or what ever they had for Nascar is gone and won't be back. Going to change everything from what the news said.
EricNearBuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Frig off, Ricky!, NY
Joined: 09.04.2011

Feb 24 @ 12:12 AM ET
Yes it was, the Nascar cafe or what ever they had for Nascar is gone and won't be back. Going to change everything from what the news said.
- SABRES 89


huh...we specifically went there for the Cafe late one night. walking thru the hotel from the tram was really strange.
SuperCat
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo , NY
Joined: 11.20.2006

Feb 24 @ 12:13 AM ET
A good portion of that money is already tied up in Myers extension and also with what Ennis will probably get. That doesn't leave a lot of extra left. Certainly not 6.5 mil.
- HonkFortheGoose



Boyes makes $4 mill, and Hecht $3.5 mill...

Cut loose Goose ($2.75) and Leopold ($3 mill)... and that's another $5+ million worth of cap space.

Better yet... Roy and Stafford are both worth $4 mill a pop. Trade either for a 1st rd pick and you could easily throw money at a top teir FA when the offseason comes!
RayHatesDomi
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tank You Very Much
Joined: 06.30.2009

Feb 24 @ 12:15 AM ET
So then, by your own admission...


If you don't win The Cup, you're team was nothing?

And the sabres franchise is as accomplished as the Flordia Panthers?



What a sad perspective you live...

- SuperCat


No, but there's a huge difference between being a contender and being a pretender.

And the Sabres aren't really considered an "accomplished" franchise. What year did the Panthers enter the league? 95? They have just as many finals appearance as we do over the past 16 years
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:15 AM ET
huh...we specifically went there for the Cafe late one night. walking thru the hotel from the tram was really strange.
- EricNearBuffalo

Yea that is gone and it won't be back, that corner is pretty dark.
HonkFortheGoose
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "___________ stinks."-Sabres89, NY
Joined: 07.26.2008

Feb 24 @ 12:15 AM ET
Boyes makes $4 mill, and Hecht $3.5 mill...

Cut loose Goose ($2.75) and Leopold ($3 mill)... and that's another $5+ million worth of cap space.

Better yet... Roy and Stafford are both worth $4 mill a pop. Trade either for a 1st rd pick and you could easily throw money at a top teir FA when the offseason comes!

- SuperCat


Goose only makes 2.3 based on his cap hit. Unless they trade Leopold, he'll be back and honestly, that's not something I can see them doing. He's actually been pretty solid this year, so I doubt you see him moved. They would have to really be wowed in order to even consider it.
RayHatesDomi
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tank You Very Much
Joined: 06.30.2009

Feb 24 @ 12:22 AM ET
Nothing..?

I hate to break it to you, but only one team can win the Cup in a given year.

and that fact doesn't relegate the rest of the league to insigniffigance.

Representing your conference is still relevance, and still earns a banner to your rafters by season's end.

By your logic, the sabres have never done a damn thing in their entire existance... They might as well be the Florida Panthers by your assesment...

Man am I glad I don't live in Buffalo with such a cynical perspective.

- SuperCat


Hey, I'm glad you don't live here too. You can call it cynicism and negative all you want but I'm very opptimistic. I'm optimistic that we can actually makes some trades to improve this team. I'm optimistic that we can finally shed some of the dead weight. I'm optimistic at how much a top 5 pick may actually be able to help this team. And yes, I'm even optimistic that if Darcy f's it all up, we can finally fire him
EricNearBuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Frig off, Ricky!, NY
Joined: 09.04.2011

Feb 24 @ 12:22 AM ET
Yea that is gone and it won't be back, that corner is pretty dark.
- SABRES 89


i'm sure they'll snag something decent with it being the eventual rebirth of a legendary casino.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 24 @ 12:23 AM ET
Shea Weber isnt going anywhere.
- Homer


For the package I put together he might...
But even if not...
Just substitute a stud defenseman who might be
RayHatesDomi
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Tank You Very Much
Joined: 06.30.2009

Feb 24 @ 12:24 AM ET
Goose only makes 2.3 based on his cap hit. Unless they trade Leopold, he'll be back and honestly, that's not something I can see them doing. He's actually been pretty solid this year, so I doubt you see him moved. They would have to really be wowed in order to even consider it.
- HonkFortheGoose


The only way Darcy makes any type of significant move is if is ordered to doso (kind of like the Drury deal) The man is honestly incaple of doing anything on his own
EricNearBuffalo
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Frig off, Ricky!, NY
Joined: 09.04.2011

Feb 24 @ 12:26 AM ET
The only way Darcy makes any type of significant move is if is ordered to doso (kind of like the Drury deal) The man is honestly incaple of doing anything on his own
- RayHatesDomi


i'm no Darcy apologist, but seriously?

the dude might be guilty of holding on to players for too long, but he's not a blithering or drooling idiot.
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