Maybe trade Ryan Jones+ for RW and draft a highly touted forward and cross fingers Hemsky stays healthy. Maybe have to tie the fingers together for Hemsky's health.
- deks1

That Ringo guy apparently is a winger/center so that very well could be the answer. I hate to depend on that, but it's something to think about. That and Gagner can play wing and you have RNH,Horcoff, Belanger and Lander as centers in your lineup and none of them are going anywhere anytime soon. You then have Hall, Smyth, PRV on the left side and could always move PRV to RW as he has done in the past.

I don't think it's as big of an issue as people make it. The bigger issue is fixing that backend.

I am a Hemsky fan but no way would I give him 5 million a year even if it was for only 1 year. Even though early on in his contract it looked like a good deal for us the last couple of years with his injuries I would say he should get no more then 4 million on a 1 year contract.

If I was Tambo I would offer this:
1 Year at $4 million
2 Year at $3 million

and if he really wants to stay in Edmonton for a long time I would offer this:
5 year $2.5 million base
$1 million bonus for playing 70+ games
$1 million bonus for getting 65+ points
$1.5 million bonus for getting 85+ points (If he can live up to Jagr's talk)
limited NMC( can pick x amount of teams he would be traded to)
I am not sure how failed bonuses count towards the cap but if he didn't make them and they still counted towards the cap then scrap the last idea.
- EastCoastOiler

That is some of the lowest numbers I've seen so far. Oilers should pitch that sales offer and credit you if it worked.

You aren't ignoring it if you are giving him a two year deal.
- Lahey

Regardless of the term, 5 million per is extremely generous... This overpaying stuff ended with Horcoff/Lowe. If we give Hemsky 5 million, Hall, Ebs and the Nuge will each want 7-8 million per.

Regardless of the term, 5 million per is extremely generous... This overpaying stuff ended with Horcoff/Lowe. If we give Hemsky 5 million, Hall, Ebs and the Nuge will each want 7-8 million per.
- laughs2907

Sutton too much. Belanger too much according to most on here. Potter too much if he continues to play like a AHLer. Your sisters innocence, too much.

Just how much is Hemsky worth and does it kill us if it's an overpayment anyway?

Regardless of the term, 5 million per is extremely generous... This overpaying stuff ended with Horcoff/Lowe. If we give Hemsky 5 million, Hall, Ebs and the Nuge will each want 7-8 million per.
- laughs2907

Hemsky isn't worth Ruutu's 4.75M per nor Neal's 5M per deals at the moment or past couple seasons.

its hard to stomach 5 mil for his current production, but for 2 years i suppose i could live with that.
as oiler fans we know what hes capable of doing.


if they resign him and dont deal gagner, we're drafting ryan murray instead of grigorenko.

In my opinion, the Oilers are on a freeroll with Hemsky right now.

If they can find a deal before the deadline that meets their demands, then they trade him and get some decent assets.

If they can't get a deal done that they want, then re-sign him for a fair price/length and keep a skilled forward for next year.

If he struggles or doesn't fit into the plans early into the year, his value should be higher on the trade market because he is no longer a rental and they can increase the return on him (barring them signing him to a ridiculous contract).

I figure the only way they lose, obviously, is not get what they want from him before this week ends and then can't sign him to a contract. Asset management is huge and if the Oilers allow him to leave without getting anything in return it should cost Tambs his job.

if they resign him and dont deal gagner, we're drafting ryan murray instead of grigorenko.
- joe77

Thanks for the heads up. I can go ahead and make plans for Draft Day because you have it figured out and I won't need to watch. Appreciate it.

Regardless of the term, 5 million per is extremely generous... This overpaying stuff ended with Horcoff/Lowe. If we give Hemsky 5 million, Hall, Ebs and the Nuge will each want 7-8 million per.
- laughs2907

well said.
didnt even think of the potential cash the kids will ask for if hemmer gets 5.
but
as far as the dude who came up with the 3 per and the 2.5 long term..no chance.
you dont just slap the guy who carried your team on his back and been very loyal for 5 years in the face.

i almost feel like dealing him for an underpayment if we have to, might be best for everyone.

Thanks for the heads up. I can go ahead and make plans for Draft Day because you have it figured out and I won't need to watch. Appreciate it.
- Bucky4Life

glad i could help.
it was aimed at posters like you. With that much sarcasm, im sure you're not the most clever guy around.
So i thought id do you a favour and spell it out in very simple terms.

In my opinion, the Oilers are on a freeroll with Hemsky right now.

If they can find a deal before the deadline that meets their demands, then they trade him and get some decent assets.

If they can't get a deal done that they want, then re-sign him for a fair price/length and keep a skilled forward for next year.

If he struggles or doesn't fit into the plans early into the year, his value should be higher on the trade market because he is no longer a rental and they can increase the return on him (barring them signing him to a ridiculous contract).

I figure the only way they lose, obviously, is not get what they want from him before this week ends and then can't sign him to a contract. Asset management is huge and if the Oilers allow him to leave without getting anything in return it should cost Tambs his job.
- Bucky4Life

u mean trade him for an asset?
or dont and resign him?

tambs should attempt to maximize his value from his assets?

well that should put any furthur hemsky discussions to bed.

thanks for the closure!

glad i could help.
it was aimed at posters like you. With that much sarcasm, im sure you're not the most clever guy around.
So i thought id do you a favour and spell it out in very simple terms.
- joe77

I like it when somebody makes a silly statement, gets called out for it and then claims it was sarcasm.

Sarcasm requires context. Your comment was out of the blue and totally random. It is almost impossible to determine sarcasm without tone to begin with.

I like it when somebody makes a silly statement, gets called out for it and then claims it was sarcasm.

Sarcasm requires context. Your comment was out of the blue and totally random. It is almost impossible to determine sarcasm without tone to begin with.
- Bucky4Life

Well after reading that TSN article I might be changing my stance on taking BPA if it's Ringo.

u mean trade him for an asset?
or dont and resign him?

tambs should attempt to maximize his value from his assets?

well that should put any furthur hemsky discussions to bed.

thanks for the closure!


- joe77

Thanks for highlighting my keypoints into a Cliff's notes version so Cloutier et al can figure out what I was trying to say.

I like it when somebody makes a silly statement, gets called out for it and then claims it was sarcasm.

Sarcasm requires context. Your comment was out of the blue and totally random. It is almost impossible to determine sarcasm without tone to begin with.
- Bucky4Life

i didnt claim it was sarcasm. i was being serious. get a clue handicap.

i said YOUR post was sarcastic. you know the sarcasm is a low form of wit cliche?
as in calling you out?
so tiresome when you have to spell it out for people.

please reread carefully before you respond and embarress yourself...again.

Sutton too much. Belanger too much according to most on here. Potter too much if he continues to play like a AHLer. Your sisters innocence, too much.

Just how much is Hemsky worth and does it kill us if it's an overpayment anyway?
- Lahey

Sutton used to be a cap hit of 3 mil per season... When he came to Edmonton, he became a cap hit of 2.125... He just resigned for 1.75... Bad signing? Not even close.

Before coming to the Oilers, Belanger had a cap hit of 1.75... Here, his cap hit is 1.75. For a guy who consistently puts up nearly 40 points per season, is great at face-offs, and is sound defensively, that's a good signing.

Potter has earned his 525k cap hit this year... Extending him to what? A 2 year 1.5 (750k cap hit) isn't bad at all.

My sister is a whore.

Hemsky is worth 4 max... I'd consider a 3.5 per long-term deal, but that's only because he has been a loyal Oiler... Call it seniority. 1 or 2 years at 5-6 mil per? (frank) that noise.

i didnt claim it was sarcasm. i was being serious. get a clue handicap.

i said YOUR post was sarcastic.

please reread carefully before you respond and embarress yourself...again.
- joe77

My bad. Can you tell me who the Oilers will take in the second and third round though? If I can keep the whole weekend open, that would be awesome.

Well after reading that TSN article I might be changing my stance on taking BPA if it's Ringo.
- Lahey

link

ive been a grigs advocate for awhile now.

a big center that probably wont take as long to develop as a dman.
but
they all say ryan murray is the real deal. he looked amazing in the wjc, and the few times ive seen him otherwise. (dont even bother with the russia game comments)

its not like all dmen cant step in right away..LA, St.louis, jersey, toronto have all taken a dman in the top 5 recently and its worked out beautifully for them.

Sutton used to be a cap hit of 3 mil per season... When he came to Edmonton, he became a cap hit of 2.125... He just resigned for 1.75... Bad signing? Not even close.

Before coming to the Oilers, Belanger had a cap hit of 1.75... Here, his cap hit is 1.75. For a guy who consistently puts up nearly 40 points per season, is great at face-offs, and is sound defensively, that's a good signing.

Potter has earned his 525k cap hit this year... Extending him to what? A 2 year 1.5 (750k cap hit) isn't bad at all.

My sister is a whore.

Hemsky is worth 4 max... I'd consider a 3.5 per long-term deal, but that's only because he has been a loyal Oiler... Call it seniority. 1 or 2 years at 5-6 mil per? (frank) that noise.
- laughs2907

Sutton is still overpaid though compared to other. Maybe it's not a mil, but 500k over payment for a 1.75mil guy is a higher percentage of an overpayment than 1mil for Hemsky.

I don't mind Sutton's cap hit either as it really doesn't effect the big picture. Just pointing things out.

link
- joe77

tsn.ca

tsn.ca
- Lahey

ahh ek's source

My bad. Can you tell me who the Oilers will take in the second and third round though? If I can keep the whole weekend open, that would be awesome.
- Bucky4Life

Ville Pokka and Samulesson

http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/story/?id=388658

Stolen from Cuddly bears thread.

I'd say Omark is a plan H for NSH. The guy on Gregor's show said they need a two-way player that scores goals. Omark is the complete opposite of that.
- Lahey

I see two problems with that.

1) The demand for that type of player far exceeds the supply. Even the sellers are locking up those type of players rather than move them (see Ruutu).

2) Nashville isn't willing to pay the price.

I see two problems with that.

1) The demand for that type of player far exceeds the supply. Even the sellers are locking up those type of players rather than move them (see Ruutu).

2) Nashville isn't willing to pay the price.
- Reveen

Well I know that, but it's not like NSH is going to go out and make a move that doesn't make sense for them. No neck would have Omark crying by the end of the first period. Although maybe Omark would (frank)ing listen and could round his game playing in NSH.