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RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Feb 23 @ 1:24 PM ET
I think offering him a raise at $3M should be able to keep him. Unfortunately, the cap comes into play and the Flyers are in no position to overpay for him. Flyers would likely trade him before just losing him.
- stveshdy


He is RFA... They might take the draft picks, or file for Arbitration...
Duane B
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: off to see the wizzard. the w, PA
Joined: 12.02.2008

Feb 23 @ 1:24 PM ET
oh hey sup
- Crimsoninja

clouds,lights,sun
roenick97
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Canada, MI
Joined: 12.23.2006

Feb 23 @ 1:25 PM ET
I will agree with you there...
- RooNosHockey

To respond to your original comments, I'll let you know right now that I'm well aware of what the Flyers need and they have it right now. They need talented youth for the future but they also have to remain competitive right now. Guys like Briere and Timonen help us remain competitive. Guys that we've filled huge holes with in Kubina and Grossman help us stay competitive. Our Future is brought whether we move Briere now or at the end of his contract. If we move him now, we become less competitive right now. Homer is doing all the right things and making all the right moves. Even with such setbacks like Pronger being done for the rest of his career.
bigmookalookie
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mookie you are a wing nut, In , LS
Joined: 02.27.2011

Feb 23 @ 1:25 PM ET

- Duane B

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there you go alot of smilies faces for your viewing pleasure
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 23 @ 1:25 PM ET
He is RFA... They might take the draft picks, or file for Arbitration...
- RooNosHockey


True. They have options.
Duane B
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: off to see the wizzard. the w, PA
Joined: 12.02.2008

Feb 23 @ 1:26 PM ET
=^D
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B^D
:'D
:^p
there you go alot of smilies faces for your viewing pleasure

- bigmookalookie

thanks
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:26 PM ET
clouds,lights,sun
- Duane B

nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 23 @ 1:30 PM ET
you are amazing
- Crimsoninja



is it asking too much to have competent hockey writers and reporters who aren't all about drama. ok, we acknowledge Bryz MUST be better.....more consistent. that 4th goal was horrible. He was asked the question about it and gave an honest answer.....basically I miss judged it. of course Barkan kills him by saying no kidding. WTF do you want. he said he (frank)ed up on the play. Said he has to be better. so if he says no comment they would kill him. he answers, they kill him. he can play a stretch of 7-8 games with a 1.78 (or whatever it was) and have a terrible game and the comments come out that he has yet to win a game or play well. she is terrible and he is a drama queen.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 23 @ 1:32 PM ET
is it asking too much to have competent hockey writers and reporters who aren't all about drama. ok, we acknowledge Bryz MUST be better.....more consistent. that 4th goal was horrible. He was asked the question about it and gave an honest answer.....basically I miss judged it. of course Barkan kills him by saying no kidding. WTF do you want. he said he (frank)ed up on the play. Said he has to be better. so if he says no comment they would kill him. he answers, they kill him. he can play a stretch of 7-8 games with a 1.78 (or whatever it was) and have a terrible game and the comments come out that he has yet to win a game or play well. she is terrible and he is a drama queen.
- nastyflyergirl


If Barkann were killed for his errors as much as Bryz has been the last week plus, Barkann would have had 5 funerals, a zombie resurrection, and a final-putdown by Ash all in 1 day.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
is it asking too much to have competent hockey writers and reporters who aren't all about drama. ok, we acknowledge Bryz MUST be better.....more consistent. that 4th goal was horrible. He was asked the question about it and gave an honest answer.....basically I miss judged it. of course Barkan kills him by saying no kidding. WTF do you want. he said he (frank)ed up on the play. Said he has to be better. so if he says no comment they would kill him. he answers, they kill him. he can play a stretch of 7-8 games with a 1.78 (or whatever it was) and have a terrible game and the comments come out that he has yet to win a game or play well. she is terrible and he is a drama queen.
- nastyflyergirl

hey i chose not to listen... dont put this evil on me nfg
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:37 PM ET
thanks
- Duane B

DUANE SUP D00D
Buzzo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dauphin, MB
Joined: 02.07.2011

Feb 23 @ 1:39 PM ET
So if some feel like its going to be hard to resign Voracek this offseason for what he will probably demand or deserve, would it make sense to trade him before the deadline and get something for him?
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 23 @ 1:42 PM ET
So if some feel like its going to be hard to resign Voracek this offseason for what he will probably demand or deserve, would it make sense to trade him before the deadline and get something for him?
- Buzzo


Nope. I like the odds that he will be back in a Flyers uniform. I think he and the Flyers will meet at a number that works for both.
JFlyers00
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NYC (kill me) , NJ
Joined: 11.24.2011

Feb 23 @ 1:42 PM ET
Going off the current CBA we would most likely see the cap increase to about 68-69 million. However, the most recent proposed CBA that I read about would actually restructure everything so that the the cap next year would be around 58-59 million. I don't think anyone can really expect the cap to increase next year.

The thing that is interesting about this whole thing is that I believe that the CBA doesnt expire until September 15th. So lets say the cap does go up under the current CBA to 69 million, then they bring in the new CBA. That could potentially be a good chunk of slary the shed. I'm guessing thats where the talks of a contract mulligan stem from.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 23 @ 1:43 PM ET
Per the beats, Bryzgalov starting tonight.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:46 PM ET
Per the beats, Bryzgalov starting tonight.
- bmeltzer

woop woop great call

first win in what? 11 years in edmonton coming!
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:46 PM ET
Per Panotch

We are all riding the storm (it's all about Bryz).

I didn't know it was raining in Edmonton.

One thing is for sure, fans are rallying around all the negative poop about Bryz and hoping he does well.

Glass if half full...
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:46 PM ET
Per the beats, Bryzgalov starting tonight.
- bmeltzer

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:47 PM ET
Going off the current CBA we would most likely see the cap increase to about 68-69 million. However, the most recent proposed CBA that I read about would actually restructure everything so that the the cap next year would be around 58-59 million. I don't think anyone can really expect the cap to increase next year.

The thing that is interesting about this whole thing is that I believe that the CBA doesnt expire until September 15th. So lets say the cap does go up under the current CBA to 69 million, then they bring in the new CBA. That could potentially be a good chunk of slary the shed. I'm guessing thats where the talks of a contract mulligan stem from.

- JFlyers00

franchise briere?
phi1671
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 08.06.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:48 PM ET
If Barkann were killed for his errors as much as Bryz has been the last week plus, Barkann would have had 5 funerals, a zombie resurrection, and a final-putdown by Ash all in 1 day.
- Flyskippy


it's amazing how the Philly news market has gone TMZ

Barkann and the way he talks
Have you ever watched him, he talks out the side of his mouth.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Feb 23 @ 1:49 PM ET
it's amazing how the Philly news market has gone TMZ

Barkann and the way he talks
Have you ever watched him, he talks out the side of his mouth.

- phi1671

I stopped watching Barkann on TV as of about 3 years ago during pre-game, post-game, and intermission bits.
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Feb 23 @ 1:49 PM ET
Interesting Bryz stats. it think its very unfair for people to say he has yet to play well or win a game, etc etc. not accurate. what is accurate is that he has been way too uneven and he must find consistency for the Flyers to have a chance to win in the playoffs. people forget about the good games because for every few good games, his losses are putrid. he doesn't lose a good game. he loses in a horrendus way

GAA save %
Oct - 3.16 .880
Nov - 2.52 .918
Dec 3.20 .878
Jan 2.67 .912
Feb 2.25 .911


last 11 games before he got the flu

2.13 .925
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hart-Land, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:49 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Flyers Gameday: 2/23/12 @ Oilers
- bmeltzer


Anyone read Engels blog about the Habs acquiring Carter? He is saying that rumours have the Flyers trying to re acquire Carter. These rumours are ridiculous..
jak521
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Buckle Up.
Joined: 02.19.2008

Feb 23 @ 1:51 PM ET
Interesting Bryz stats. it think its very unfair for people to say he has yet to play well or win a game, etc etc. not accurate. what is accurate is that he has been way too uneven and he must find consistency for the Flyers to have a chance to win in the playoffs. people forget about the good games because for every few good games, his losses are putrid. he doesn't lose a good game. he loses in a horrendus way

GAA save %
Oct - 3.16 .880
Nov - 2.52 .918
Dec 3.20 .878
Jan 2.67 .912
Feb 2.25 .911


last 11 games before he got the flu

2.13 .925

- nastyflyergirl

Thats not nearly good enough.. should be more like 2.02 and .954
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 23 @ 1:52 PM ET
Anyone read Engels blog about the Habs acquiring Carter? He is saying that rumours have the Flyers trying to re acquire Carter. These rumours are ridiculous..
- Hextall271


yea carter back in Philly good one
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