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LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Feb 23 @ 8:43 PM ET
If they don't have to give up a package that would include some kind of Stepan/Del Zotto/Kreider package, Nash will make them better.
- PLindbergh31


Stepan and Del Zotto aren't going to be moved. I'd probably do it for Dubinsky and Kreider if I were Sather.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Feb 23 @ 8:45 PM ET
How does this guy still have a job? I like Jack Johnson but you dont get Bernier in the Carter deal? Columbus has zero goalie at this point.
- stveshdy


They'll sign Leighton in the offseason. Problem solved
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Feb 23 @ 8:45 PM ET
the Columbus Blue Jackets traded Jake Voracek, Sean Couturier, Nick Cousins, and Jeff Carter for Jack Johnson and a first.

wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Feb 23 @ 8:46 PM ET
the Blue Jackets traded Jake Voracek, Sean Couturier, Nick Cousins, and Jeff Carter for Jack Johnson and a first.

PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 23 @ 8:46 PM ET
How does this guy still have a job? I like Jack Johnson but you dont get Bernier in the Carter deal? Columbus has zero goalie at this point.
- stveshdy


Johnson needs a compass to find his own end. Carter forced Howson's hand. Teams knew he had to unload him. Takes all his leverage away.

Flyers should have traded Carle and their #1 for Carter.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 23 @ 8:46 PM ET
They'll sign Leighton in the offseason. Problem solved
- eayost


Columbus will be lucky to average a goal per game from here out. However, im positive they will be giving up alot more than they score.
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 23 @ 8:47 PM ET
Nash to LA for Carter and a 1st
- feelingkettle


LordStanley88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.30.2012

Feb 23 @ 8:47 PM ET
the Blue Jackets traded Jake Voracek, Sean Couturier, Nick Cousins, and Jeff Carter for Jack Johnson and a first.
- wilsonecho91


Dear god.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Feb 23 @ 8:48 PM ET
Richards getting traded to Florida Panthers e(5)
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Feb 23 @ 8:48 PM ET
Columbus will be lucky to average a goal per game from here out. However, im positive they will be giving up alot more than they score.
- stveshdy


Actually, once LA trades Bernier, they'll probably sign Leighton being Flyers West. Heck, why not grab up Carle in the offseason too
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Feb 23 @ 8:48 PM ET
the Columbus Blue Jackets traded Jake Voracek, Sean Couturier, Nick Cousins, and Jeff Carter for Jack Johnson and a first.
- wilsonecho91


who is nick cousins?
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Feb 23 @ 8:49 PM ET
the Blue Jackets traded Jake Voracek, Sean Couturier, Nick Cousins, and Jeff Carter for Jack Johnson and a first.
- wilsonecho91



No they didnt... they traded Jake Voracek, Sean Couturier, Nick Cousins for Jack Johnson and a first...
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Feb 23 @ 8:49 PM ET
the Columbus Blue Jackets traded Jake Voracek, Sean Couturier, Nick Cousins, and Jeff Carter for Jack Johnson and a first.
- wilsonecho91

He's trying to give Mike Milbury a run for his money.
eayost
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Into the Void, PA
Joined: 04.14.2010

Feb 23 @ 8:49 PM ET
No they didnt... they traded Jake Voracek, Sean Couturier, Nick Cousins for Jack Johnson and a first...
- Flyers2821


Yea, I thought the original equation was a little fishy as stated
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 23 @ 8:51 PM ET
Johnson needs a compass to find his own end. Carter forced Howson's hand. Teams knew he had to unload him. Takes all his leverage away.

Flyers should have traded Carle and their #1 for Carter.

- PLindbergh31


Columbus could of waited until the summer to trade Carter. Its a panic move by the GM and he has dismantled that franchise in less than a year. Im all about making moves and taking chances but hes misfired too often. I cant wait to see what Nash gets dealt for.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 23 @ 8:52 PM ET
Is Carter and Richards > Jack Johnson, Wayne Simmonds, Braydon Schenn and a 1st? Beginning of the year, no doubt, now not so sure.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 23 @ 8:52 PM ET
who is nick cousins?
- mydoglicks

Believe he was the 3rd round pick from the carter deal?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Feb 23 @ 8:52 PM ET
Johnson needs a compass to find his own end. Carter forced Howson's hand. Teams knew he had to unload him. Takes all his leverage away.

Flyers should have traded Carle and their #1 for Carter.

- PLindbergh31

I like CLB side of the deal better. if deano believed in his centers, he would have ponied up for Nash. now he has a situation where one of his centers will have to play out of position. JJ can still improve while I think carter is has plateaued and has very little incentive to change.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 23 @ 8:53 PM ET
Columbus could of waited until the summer to trade Carter. Its a panic move by the GM and he has dismantled that franchise in less than a year. Im all about making moves and taking chances but hes misfired too often. I cant wait to see what Nash gets dealt for.
- stveshdy


I just hope Nash goes to SJ and not the Rags.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Feb 23 @ 8:53 PM ET
Columbus could of waited until the summer to trade Carter. Its a panic move by the GM and he has dismantled that franchise in less than a year. Im all about making moves and taking chances but hes misfired too often. I cant wait to see what Nash gets dealt for.
- stveshdy


I'm not sure I agree with this... I actually think at the time the two trades were made, this trade got a better return than ours. I say that meaning... before Couturier slipped to #7 in that draft... Jack Johnson/1st > Voracek/1st (and yes I am taking into consideration the pick being #7 and LA's being 2nd half of the first round)

Not to mention the reputation Carter has developed this year around the league.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 23 @ 8:54 PM ET
I like CLB side of the deal better. if deano believed in his centers, he would have ponied up for Nash. now he has a situation where one of his centers will have to play out of position. JJ can still improve while I think carter is has plateaued and has very little incentive to change.
- isaiah520


I think your about to see the Carter that was here in Philly. He was depressed playing in Columbus and now he will be excited to be in LA and reunited with Richards.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Feb 23 @ 8:54 PM ET
I like CLB side of the deal better. if deano believed in his centers, he would have ponied up for Nash. now he has a situation where one of his centers will have to play out of position. JJ can still improve while I think carter is has plateaued and has very little incentive to change.
- isaiah520

LA Kings - modeling themselves after the Flyers in the John Stevens era.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Feb 23 @ 8:54 PM ET
I think your about to see the Carter that was here in Philly. He was depressed playing in Columbus and now he will be excited to be in LA and reunited with Richards.
- stveshdy

Would be surprised if either of them are sober enough to play any games the next few days.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Feb 23 @ 8:55 PM ET
Is Carter and Richards > Jack Johnson, Wayne Simmonds, Braydon Schenn and a 1st? Beginning of the year, no doubt, now not so sure.
- ravishingone


How on earth did you come up with this? lol
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Feb 23 @ 8:55 PM ET
After Carter gets a sex change in the wild binge him and Richards go on tonight, he will be a bust and Columbus will look like geniuses.
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