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Lido_Shuffle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.10.2012

Feb 22 @ 8:48 PM ET
My guess is Derek Roy. He's having an ok season and there are rumors he's on the block. He's 28 and is owed 4m next season. I'm not sure if he's the answer if we get him but it seems he ticks all the boxes.
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Feb 22 @ 8:49 PM ET
Jesse Rogers says Hammer will be back tomorrow night. Good news.
andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Feb 22 @ 8:52 PM ET
I pray to god it's not Mike Ribeiro. I'm convinced no team will ever win with him. The guy was a lazy douchebag in high school (we attended the same one) a locker room cancer in Montreal, is still a showboat spoiled brat (as evidenced by the ridiculousness he pulled in Montreal last night, and there is no way I want a guy like him in the Hawks' locker room.
SAVOIRFAIRE
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 11.14.2011

Feb 22 @ 8:54 PM ET
What we know.

1. It's a rumor. Should be stressed in fact.

2. The player is a number 2 center that could play number 1 on certain unfortunate teams around the league.

3. The player has a cap hit going into next year.

4. By way of inductive method, the player must be from a non contending team, as no contender in their right mind does a move like this now, they wait until the offseason.

5. JJ seems to like the rumor, which points to the idea that he likes the player. Ie, it's not Sam Gagner.

6. Again by way of induction, the team proposing the trade must have decent to strong center depth, because few to no teams can trade away something as strong as JJ is mentioning, without it being replaced - likely by something young.

The only player that makes sense to me is Paul Stastny. That said, Colorado is only 4 points back of 8th so they aren't going to give him away; not for picks and prospects alone. A deal HAS to include Stalberg (sadly for me, since he is one of my favorite Hawks), likely has to include Frolik for finacial reasons. Picks and prospects to be included to even out the status of Stastny vs. Stalberg. Colorado needs top six winger help badly so they'll start their offer with Saad.

In my dream universe, there is a way we get TJ Galiardi back too....

Not even sure I want this trade to happen.

- nathanjf


I am totally with you. I would HATE to lose Stalberg. I love his game - speed, good size,and this year he has learned how to finish.
jhawk159
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheaton, IL
Joined: 10.13.2009

Feb 22 @ 8:55 PM ET
What we know.

1. It's a rumor. Should be stressed in fact.

2. The player is a number 2 center that could play number 1 on certain unfortunate teams around the league.

3. The player has a cap hit going into next year.

4. By way of inductive method, the player must be from a non contending team, as no contender in their right mind does a move like this now, they wait until the offseason.

5. JJ seems to like the rumor, which points to the idea that he likes the player. Ie, it's not Sam Gagner.

6. Again by way of induction, the team proposing the trade must have decent to strong center depth, because few to no teams can trade away something as strong as JJ is mentioning, without it being replaced - likely by something young.

The only player that makes sense to me is Paul Stastny. That said, Colorado is only 4 points back of 8th so they aren't going to give him away; not for picks and prospects alone. A deal HAS to include Stalberg (sadly for me, since he is one of my favorite Hawks), likely has to include Frolik for finacial reasons. Picks and prospects to be included to even out the status of Stastny vs. Stalberg. Colorado needs top six winger help badly so they'll start their offer with Saad.

In my dream universe, there is a way we get TJ Galiardi back too....

Not even sure I want this trade to happen.

- nathanjf


I think you are on to something.

Anaarkey
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 01.25.2010

Feb 22 @ 8:55 PM ET
Could Stephen Weiss be the center in question?

Seems to fit the criteria


http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=42450
pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

Feb 22 @ 8:57 PM ET
I pray to god it's not Mike Ribeiro. I'm convinced no team will ever win with him. The guy was a lazy douchebag in high school (we attended the same one) a locker room cancer in Montreal, is still a showboat spoiled brat (as evidenced by the ridiculousness he pulled in Montreal last night, and there is no way I want a guy like him in the Hawks' locker room.
- andru2797


I saw that... Hilarious but yah.. very douchey
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

Feb 22 @ 8:58 PM ET
Brillaint break down. It seems like Gravo from Toronto could be had for less than Stasny. I also think Toronto and Buffalo (Roy) are more likely trade partners than a Western conference team
- mrpaulish


Derek Roy has like 35 points. No thanks. Grabovski, Brassard, very skilled players both would help the PP and would fit well with Hossa.
pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

Feb 22 @ 8:59 PM ET
Derek Roy has like 35 points. No thanks. Grabovski, Brassard, very skilled players both would help the PP and would fit well with Hossa.
- nickmo2699


I like Grabovski too but it doesn't make sense for Toronto.. They are thin at center, can't see them trading their best one.

I'm not convinced it's Roy..
pri$ey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Proud "Hawktard", NB
Joined: 05.17.2008

Feb 22 @ 9:01 PM ET
Whats going to be funny to watch, especially on this board is if Bowman doesn't pull a big trade off now and just adds some smaller pieces (which isn't a terrible thing) people are going to lambaste him..

JJ has everyones hype meter turned to 11..

Lido_Shuffle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.10.2012

Feb 22 @ 9:02 PM ET
I missed this:

This transaction, if it happens, could wait until the deadline as it would be a fairly major move both on and off the ice (financially).


I was hoping we would hear something by tomorrow.

TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Feb 22 @ 9:03 PM ET
Could Stephen Weiss be the center in question?

Seems to fit the criteria


http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=42450

- Anaarkey



Saw that, thought the same thing.
SAVOIRFAIRE
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Montreal, QC
Joined: 11.14.2011

Feb 22 @ 9:08 PM ET
Read on another website that per TSN the Leafs were offered a 2nd rd pick + prospect for Grabovski.

Lido_Shuffle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.10.2012

Feb 22 @ 9:11 PM ET
Could Stephen Weiss be the center in question?

Seems to fit the criteria


http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=42450

- Anaarkey


Anybody want to take a guess at what Talon would want back?

Stalberg, Kruger, Bolland??

Olesz
Anaarkey
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 01.25.2010

Feb 22 @ 9:14 PM ET
Anybody want to take a guess at what Talon would want back?

Stalberg, Kruger, Bolland??

Olesz

- Lido_Shuffle



Olesz and Huet
scorerstouch
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 22 @ 9:15 PM ET
Could Stephen Weiss be the center in question?

Seems to fit the criteria


http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog.php?post_id=42450

- Anaarkey



Only problem is this is not a major financial issue. Weiss cap hit is 3.1mil. JJ says financial considerations are a part of why this may not go down till the deadline.

I'm thinking much bigger double the cap hit of Weiss, maybe more.
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Feb 22 @ 9:16 PM ET
Olesz and Huet
- Anaarkey

Is Tallon still trying to build a cup contender in Chicago?
scorerstouch
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 22 @ 9:18 PM ET
To reiterate JJ's post:

This transaction, if it happens, could wait until the deadline as it would be a fairly major move both on and off the ice (financially). And, although the other club made it known to the Hawks the player was available, the actual intent of the team is not completely clear at this point. But make no mistake, the player involved would improve the Hawks fairly dramatically, even strength and on at least one special team.


Weiss and Grabovski are no where near this statement. They are not financial hits nor would I consider them "game changers that make a dramatic impact".
andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Feb 22 @ 9:21 PM ET
Read on another website that per TSN the Leafs were offered a 2nd rd pick + prospect for Grabovski.
- SAVOIRFAIRE


Darren Dreger reported that about a month ago.
andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Feb 22 @ 9:26 PM ET
Here's a name no one has thrown out there...Tomas Plekanec...he plays the power play, is good defensively, good on draws, good on the PK, is committed, a great team guy, would ideally be a 2C but could be a 1C on some teams, has a substantial cap commitment beyond this season and for whatever reason, the Habs refuse to publicly admit that they're sellers.
Leerock
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 09.29.2010

Feb 22 @ 9:26 PM ET
Only problem is this is not a major financial issue. Weiss cap hit is 3.1mil. JJ says financial considerations are a part of why this may not go down till the deadline.

I'm thinking much bigger double the cap hit of Weiss, maybe more.

- scorerstouch



Weiss is really struggling, 2G 10A in his last 29 games. Meh.
Leerock
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Plainfield, IL
Joined: 09.29.2010

Feb 22 @ 9:27 PM ET
Here's a name no one has thrown out there...Tomas Plekanec...he plays the power play, is good defensively, good on draws, good on the PK, is committed, a great team guy, would ideally be a 2C but could be a 1C on some teams, has a substantial cap commitment beyond this season and for whatever reason, the Habs refuse to publicly admit that they're sellers.
- andru2797


Plenty have thrown it out, all day long.
andru2797
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Laval, QC
Joined: 10.11.2011

Feb 22 @ 9:31 PM ET
Plenty have thrown it out, all day long.
- Leerock


It's possible I missed it...if I did I apologize, but I mostly saw Stastny, Roy, Ribeiro and Grabovski.
AL SEC0RD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago Stadium
Joined: 09.19.2005

Feb 22 @ 9:34 PM ET
Anyone mentioning Kopitar might as well throw out Crosby or Malkin...

Unbelievable....

- TrueGrit


I concur--didn't even know where to begin with some of this.

And Stamkos too.

Sure, he is on the market!

I read your earlier post about the Buff-Downie fight; is that you along the glass in the 'Hawks sweater?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VaLuhyn5Dnc
AL SEC0RD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago Stadium
Joined: 09.19.2005

Feb 22 @ 9:37 PM ET
K'mon Getzlaf really? I highly doubt ANA gives up their captain and #1 center unless we throw a major package. Not going to happen.
I could see Ribero, Stasny, Grabo, but not Getzlaf.

- Boisy12


Yep.

These other speculations--Richards, Getzlaf, no way.
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