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funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:45 PM ET
yup he's not gunna play here again
- 2Real


He actually told the media that the team told him that if there was a call up situation this year that he would not be the one called up
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:45 PM ET
He actually told the media that the team told him that if there was a call up situation this year that he would not be the one called up
- funmaster18

that just cracks me up i guess things change
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:47 PM ET
Here we go, EK with the flyers and toronto working phones for a goalie.
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 22 @ 1:47 PM ET
With the recently revised top 6, in what order would you rank our depth D-men now? I've given my ranking thoughts below.

Top 6
Kimmo Timonen
Matt Carle
Braydon Coburn
Pavel Kubina
Andrej Meszaros
Nicklas Grossman

Depth
Andreas Lilja
Marc-Andre Bourdon
Matt Walker
Erik Gustafsson
Oskars Bartulis
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 22 @ 1:50 PM ET
With the recently revised top 6, in what order would you rank our depth D-men now? I've given my ranking thoughts below.

Top 6
Kimmo Timonen
Matt Carle
Braydon Coburn
Pavel Kubina
Andrej Meszaros
Nicklas Grossman

Depth
Marc-Andre Bourdon
Erik Gustafsson
Andreas Lilja
Oskars Bartulis
Matt Walker

- rockychocbill


my order
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:51 PM ET
With the recently revised top 6, in what order would you rank our depth D-men now? I've given my ranking thoughts below.

Top 6
Kimmo Timonen
Matt Carle
Braydon Coburn
Pavel Kubina
Andrej Meszaros
Nicklas Grossman

Depth
Marc-Andre Bourdon
Andreas Lilja
Erik Gustafsson
Matt Walker
Oskars Bartulis

- rockychocbill


fixed - though if we needed a guy for 1 game, I'd see Lilja play since he's on the roster. longer term, MAB.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 22 @ 1:51 PM ET
I'm not saying to go to a trap system.. I am saying Lavi needs to tweak the system to make the forwards more responsible.

Lets take last night for example. The first 3 goals were quality goals. The Flyers really need to limit chances like those, because after those goals Bryz's confidence has to be shot... He has to be thinking am I getting pulled. What is the media going to say? etc... It make the routine stops even harder.

Do we need Bryz to make some saves on some quality chances.. Yes. But if we can limit the quality chances, then Bryz's confidence should rise, making the routine saves easier...

- RooNosHockey


There wasn't much wrong with the flyers 5 on 5 play. I think they are making strides with the forwards playing responsibly. The Pk is killing this team. The rookies read and coots have been eaten alive. They are not winning the battles on the wall nor getting sticks in lanes
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:52 PM ET
With the recently revised top 6, in what order would you rank our depth D-men now? I've given my ranking thoughts below.

Top 6
Kimmo Timonen
Matt Carle
Braydon Coburn
Pavel Kubina
Andrej Meszaros
Nicklas Grossman

Depth
Andreas Lilja
Marc-Andre Bourdon
Erik Gustafsson
Me
Matt Walker
Oskars Bartulis

- rockychocbill


my order
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:52 PM ET
my order
- OrangeBlack27


Agree
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
my order
- Deasr1


"me"
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:55 PM ET
"me"
- funmaster18

Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 1:57 PM ET
I'm really getting irritated with this Philly looking for goalie rumors. We need a big, faceoff winning, penalty killing machine.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 22 @ 1:58 PM ET
I'm really getting irritated with this Philly looking for goalie rumors. We need a big, faceoff winning, penalty killing machine.
- Deasr1

i hear a real goalie can do all that
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 2:00 PM ET
i hear a real goalie can do all that
- 2Real

nice. No Bryz bashing though! Here's our guy. Lets just watch him get himself right, and wreck havoc on shooters.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 22 @ 2:00 PM ET
nice. No Bryz bashing though! Here's our guy. Lets just watch him get himself right, and wreck havoc on shooters.
- Deasr1

i'm hoping bryz wakes up real fast
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:00 PM ET
I'm not saying to go to a trap system.. I am saying Lavi needs to tweak the system to make the forwards more responsible.

Lets take last night for example. The first 3 goals were quality goals. The Flyers really need to limit chances like those, because after those goals Bryz's confidence has to be shot... He has to be thinking am I getting pulled. What is the media going to say? etc... It make the routine stops even harder.

Do we need Bryz to make some saves on some quality chances.. Yes. But if we can limit the quality chances, then Bryz's confidence should rise, making the routine saves easier...

- RooNosHockey


There's not too many ways to tweak an attack style system. One guy in hard. Second guy is reading that play and reacting accordingly. Third guy is high and is reading both of the above while watching the high forward on the opposing team. Third guy (high slot) does NOT go on the offensive until puck possession is 100% secured. D men don't pinch on anything less than 75% chances.

I'm in disagreement about Bryz. I think the more quality chances a goalie stops the higher his confidence becomes. Now I'm not advocating the Flyers stand around and do nothing like they did against the Rangers on the 11th, giving up easy goals, but quality chances are going to happen. I'm far more concerned about the back breaking, mostly routine, soft goals we've seen go in the past while.
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Feb 22 @ 2:02 PM ET
nice. No Bryz bashing though! Here's our guy. Lets just watch him get himself right, and wreck havoc on shooters.
- Deasr1


Bryz Bandwagon
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 2:02 PM ET
Bryz Bandwagon
- Phifly10

I'm on it and steering the way.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Feb 22 @ 2:04 PM ET
On a side note, I'm a little sad the Nash rumors have stopped. This forum was jumping with trade ideas and cap moves. The energy was invigorating.
Flyers2821
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 01.16.2010

Feb 22 @ 2:04 PM ET
Is there another team in the league with a young group of players on their roster like Schenn, JvR, Couturier, Read?
Phifly10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wallingford, PA
Joined: 11.26.2010

Feb 22 @ 2:05 PM ET
Is there another team in the league with a young group of players on their roster like Schenn, JvR, Couturier, Read?
- Flyers2821


No
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:06 PM ET
fixed - though if we needed a guy for 1 game, I'd see Lilja play since he's on the roster. longer term, MAB.
- wilsonecho91


Agreed. And that's why I ranked them the way I did.

Interesting that most guys had MAB and Gustafsson ranked as high as they did.

Is the general consensus around here that both these guys are close? If Kubina and Grossman don't re-sign here are we okay having MAB and Gusty in the 5-6 slots to start next season?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:06 PM ET
I'm on it and steering the way.
- Deasr1


Watch for potholes! Traveling on Pendot roads
rockychocbill
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Off Season
Joined: 07.04.2008

Feb 22 @ 2:09 PM ET
Is there another team in the league with a young group of players on their roster like Schenn, JvR, Couturier, Read?
- Flyers2821


Edmonton. When they're not taking turns being injured.
wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Feb 22 @ 2:09 PM ET
Bryz Bandwagon
- Phifly10

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