If PG was out a the end of the season.. it would've been done by now IMO.

Why leave the man there to retool the future if he ain't gonna be around ?

What the Habs need is someone who actually understands how hockey works. It seems like Gauthier and Gainey just had the weirdest hockey logic. Like how Gathier got Kaberle to help the powerplay, assuming that as long as the powerplay is good, everything else would just fall into place. Or getting Gomez to "reunite" him with Gionta. It's like they don't have a plan and they just make poop up as they go along. They need someone who has a short term AND long term plan for the Habs. And they shouldn't care if that person isn't french for god's sake.

A winner at all levels, eh? Did you know they use sticks and a puck to play hockey?

Roy has no clue about the business that is running a hockey franchise. He would be a hot-headed one-man-show and run that team into the ground before his first performance evaluation.
- CaseysHabs

I hold the same opinion about Roy, he is in no way apt to take on the DG's job.

If PG was out a the end of the season.. it would've been done by now IMO.

Why leave the man there to retool the future if he ain't gonna be around ?
- La Raie

I disagree. Why move a guy mid-season without anybody in a real position to pick up the slack? Carriere is the only Ass. GM and he also has responsibilities behind the bench. Giving Gauthier narrow parameters to sell during the deadline (maximize return) is a low risk option. Then, after you remove him after the season, you can actually interview guys that you couldn't during the season. Removing a GM mid-season to hire an new one is never really a feasible option and Montreal really doesn't have the personnel right now to have anyone step up with an interim tag (barring Martin).

Sorry but No. The main issue most have with management is that it uis the same old boys club of Gauthier, Carrier, Gainey for how many years now. Same group just a different puppet at the forefront.\

Habs need a clean break

I disagree. Why move a guy mid-season without anybody in a real position to pick up the slack? Carriere is the only Ass. GM and he also has responsibilities behind the bench. Giving Gauthier narrow parameters to sell during the deadline (maximize return) is a low risk option. Then, after you remove him after the season, you can actually interview guys that you couldn't during the season. Removing a GM mid-season to hire an new one is never really a feasible option and Montreal really doesn't have the personnel right now to have anyone step up with an interim tag (barring Martin).
- BleedingHabs

Mid-season ? this is the end of the season. Trade dead line is a week from now... If I were the owner... I wouldn't keep the guy I am firing soon to rebuild/reshape/retool this team.

Take a page out of Ottawa's playbook, guys that work i n Detroit (Murray and MacLean) both have learned lots from that WINNING organization... Go Nill!

This whole affirmative action thing for coaches and GM's in Montreal is silly. Its not the 50's anymore! Pick a guy that will make the team better, english, french or not.
- pugnacious.serf

Most Habs fans agree but the damn French media have way too much power. Jim Nill (VP/assistant GM in detroit) would also be my candidate, just bring in an assistant GM who speaks french. Someone like Damphouse or Bergevin (current assistant GM in chicago)

Steven Hindle: The Logical Choice to Succeed Pierre Gauthier as Habs GM
- The Logical Choice to Succeed Pierre Gauthier as Habs GM
- hindlehabs

The Habs need to get someone from outside the organization to being a new perspective and direction to the team. Same guy with same philosophy after same guy with same philosophy is not getting us anywhere.

Unfortunately, I don't see that changing.

I am not even sure PG is gone next year.

Rejean Houle is available...1995-96 was a fun year

Yeah, that's what this team needs, a 1-man show, not the media running the show and having 23 targets + the coach + the GM + the owner. Roy is gonna shift the attention towards him.

And i think you have no clue about what Roy has done in junior hockey and the amount of experience he gained running the Quebec Remparts.
- madkenny

You're kidding right? You're comparing running the Quebec Ramparts to running the Montreal Canadiens? Seriously? That's like taking a shift manager at McDonald's and making him the CEO of Apple.

Rejean Houle is available...1995-96 was a fun year
- Dekker

The thinking behind hiring Houle and Trembley was not a lot different at the time than the current thinking around McGuire and Roy.

You're kidding right? You're comparing running the Quebec Ramparts to running the Montreal Canadiens? Seriously? That's like taking a shift manager at McDonald's and making him the CEO of Apple.
- CaseysHabs

You're the one kidding, comparing the Montreal Canadiens to Apple inc.
We are the laughing stock of the NHL, wake up.

The thinking behind hiring Houle and Trembley was not a lot different at the time than the current thinking around McGuire and Roy.
- CaseysHabs

Yea right, the thinking behind hiring Gainey or Gauthier or Carriere is a smart thinking LOL. Same crap, different names. Alzheimer is epidemic in habsland.

Yea right, the thinking behind hiring Gainey or Gauthier or Carriere is a smart thinking LOL. Same crap, different names. Alzheimer is epidemic in habsland.
- madkenny

The fact that you think Carriere is like Gainey and Gauthier because he has worked with them shows how little you know of the situation.

Your argument for new blood is fine, but if you can't acknowledge that he brings a different perspective and you can't back up an argument as to why he should not be the GM, what's the point of re-asserting your hollow opinion?

Provide a cogent answer beyond "no" and your comments might hold more validity.

The fact that you think Carriere is like Gainey and Gauthier because he has worked with them shows how little you know of the situation.

Your argument for new blood is fine, but if you can't acknowledge that he brings a different perspective and you can't back up an argument as to why he should not be the GM, what's the point of re-asserting your hollow opinion?

Provide a cogent answer beyond "no" and your comments might hold more validity.
- hindlehabs

Just the fact that we have yet to hear him say something says it all. He's part of this mess, i don't think he helped stabilize anything. He's infected by Gainey, Gauthier and their antics.

Also, anyone linked to the ridiculous Kaberle trade, shouldn't be part of any sport organisation, let alone being part of the future of this team..

You're the one kidding, comparing the Montreal Canadiens to Apple inc.
We are the laughing stock of the NHL, wake up.
- madkenny

Actually, you missed the comparison. The comparison was not between the Habs orgainzation and Apple. The comparison was the difference between two organizations. In other words, the distance between the Ramparts and Habs is comparable to the distance between McDonalds and Apple. I know. It's a difficult concept for someone who struggles with concepts.

Just the fact that we have yet to hear him say something says it all. He's part of this mess, i don't think he helped stabilize anything. He's infected by Gainey, Gauthier and their antics.

Also, anyone linked to the ridiculous Kaberle trade, shouldn't be part of any sport organisation, let alone being part of the future of this team..
- madkenny

This statement is evidence of your limited insight. I didn't love the Kaberle trade either, and still hope we can move him before July 1. But if we fired every GM in the league who has made a bad trade, there would be no one left. It's part of the deal. There is risk in every trade. You win some and lose some. Frankly, as much as I hope PG moves on, I cannot deny that there are some good trades to his credit.

Please no, we need new blood. Gainey, Gaithier, Carriere = the same thing.
- ShafterBenRaide

this.

I find it a bit funny that people whine about the possibility of Roy as coach. I sure don't want to see him in management and he is not the long term answer, he would at least bring a little accountability to the players and a direct F.U to Mtl media which is really what we all want at this point. Short-term, I don't think he's a terrible option.

So PG will then be kept on as an advisor to LC, and BG is an advisor to PG and
- Puckers

That's right. We need new blood...

but, I'm affraid, does PG still be there next year ?

Actually, you missed the comparison. The comparison was not between the Habs orgainzation and Apple. The comparison was the difference between two organizations. In other words, the distance between the Ramparts and Habs is comparable to the distance between McDonalds and Apple. I know. It's a difficult concept for someone who struggles with concepts.
- CaseysHabs

Personal attacks, thats all you've got
Your concept is far from reality.
What's the difference between managing the Quebec Remparts and Montreal Canadiens?
They're not building rockets in Montreal, it's all about hockey. And Roy got all the knowledge it takes, he knows the organisation, he been there, seen that.
He's goin to handle contracts and professional athletes, hockey players at the end, which he's doing every day.

Now M. Concept, your comparison is futile, since Apple and Mcdonalds are not in the same branch. But let's play it that way, you have to say "Would the CEO of Mcdonalds be able to run Apple?" Well the answer is: "Why not?"

The way you said it: "Manager at Mcdonalds store.." is like you're saying Roy is Zamboni driver at the Pepsi Coliseum.

You can bring all concepts you wants, but the reality is here, Roy played hockey all his life, has been a winner all his life, is successfuly running a hockey team, and can take duties at a higher level. He's got what it takes "Guts'N'Balls".

Steven Hindle: The Logical Choice to Succeed Pierre Gauthier as Habs GM
- The Logical Choice to Succeed Pierre Gauthier as Habs GM
- hindlehabs

No. They all most go, all of them, anybody even moderately close to the present management must go, and soon. Bring in an entire new management in the summer, and do what needed to be done for the last 20 years. Sell off the veterans, keep the young core, and rebuild properly. Forget the quick fixes and retoolings, they clearly havent and wont work. Habs had best get into the new nhl, and how it works, which includes hiring new management and coaches who understand how it works. Because this group of management doesnt have a clue how it works, never has and never will. The 50's and 70's are long gone, and so is that NHL.

Every day this team does nothing is another day it isnt going forward. This once proud team is the laughing stock of the NHL, and the management in place today is the main reason why. The management teams before them were no better, maybe worse, but this management has had the time, the space and lee way to make this organization great again. And they havent, nor will they. Time to move away from this failed experiment that started as a 5 year rebuild, and do a full rebuild. Forget the language issue, hire best management and coaches available. Remember the past fondly, but it's gone, long gone. And so is this franchise's glory. Bring it back, and soon, i dont care what language you do it in, just do it.