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mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:28 PM ET
By next season, I can easily see all of Leopold, Gragnani, and Weber gone, making room for McNabb and Brennan.
They love Sekera while many others don't, but he could be traded as well.

I think the long time in development for Brennan is due to his late start in hockey. I guess he was a lacrosse star when in school.

- kingcong39


I'm not sure how late he started? He played his Junior hockey locally in the AJHL for the Little Flyers. He's a Marlton native, only about 25 minutes from where I live. That's where the Q scouts found him.

HawkFan27
Joined: 11.10.2008

Feb 21 @ 2:31 PM ET
Because there is a huge sample size available to prove that Bolland couldn't be a legit #2 right? Q's an idiot.
- Ogilthorpe2


I think there is enough available to prove that Bolland isn't a #2 guy. Not going to happen.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 21 @ 2:31 PM ET
I wouldn't mind seeing John Scott play in this game for one sole purpose..........beat the living cr*p out of this douche. Anyone notice a theme to his hits???? One day he will get his







Its always along the boards, puck carrier has his head down he takes advantage of the situation and jumps into the hit. But a constant theme is he never answers the bell when someone goes after him. IE: Ryan Kesler
Kronwall is a scumbag

- Wowo2282


If Scott went after him, he'd turtle like nobody's business. If anyone over 6', 200 lbs. went after him, he'd turtle. That's his MO. The way to deal with Kronwall is wait til HIS head is down, then use YOUR elbow on HIS jaw. Hard.
mvp0207
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Elk Grove , IL
Joined: 01.04.2011

Feb 21 @ 2:36 PM ET
If the Hawks can somehow land Duchene I'd have a permanent smile on my face.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 21 @ 2:36 PM ET
I'm not sure how late he started? He played his Junior hockey locally in the AJHL for the Little Flyers. He's a Marlton native, only about 25 minutes from where I live. That's where the Q scouts found him.
- mochoson


Hockey Futures says he didn't begin playing hockey until age 10 and that he's a very good overall athlete.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:40 PM ET
I think there is enough available to prove that Bolland isn't a #2 guy. Not going to happen.
- HawkFan27

If you can make a judgement from the 20 or so games he's played in that spot scattered through 3-4 seasons, you should be a pro scout. Give him a full season there I, gaurantee you he puts up better numbers than Sharp did playing center in 09-10.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:42 PM ET
Hockey Futures says he didn't begin playing hockey until age 10 and that he's a very good overall athlete.
- kingcong39


Well there you go. Didn't know that.

I don't use hockeysfuture for anything. I think that website is awful.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:43 PM ET
Kronwall is a fantastic two-way defenseman. Most of his hits are clean. I'd take him on my team in 2 seconds.
- andru2797

That hit on Heatley should have been a match penalty. He left his feet and lead with his elbow.

I agree with a couple posters here, he should get his soon. Would it be Scott, probably not since he couldn't time a hit and the chance Kronwell drops 'em is zero. It'd have to be a Mayers hit, with his head down and into the top of the dasher boards. Then maybe he'd get the message.
HawkFan27
Joined: 11.10.2008

Feb 21 @ 2:44 PM ET
If you can make a judgement from the 20 or so games he's played in that spot scattered through 3-4 seasons, you should be a pro scout. Give him a full season there I, gaurantee you he puts up better numbers than Sharp did playing center in 09-10.
- Ogilthorpe2


I don't see Bolland ever putting up 60+ points. So I see no way that he would put up better numbers than Sharp.

You know...watching Bolland play the third line and the powerplay actually gives you a good idea if he could handle the second line duties as well. He doesn't just have to play on the second line to do that. I just don't see it.
blackhawk24
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Lake in the Hills, IL
Joined: 06.06.2009

Feb 21 @ 2:44 PM ET
If you can make a judgement from the 20 or so games he's played in that spot scattered through 3-4 seasons, you should be a pro scout. Give him a full season there I, gaurantee you he puts up better numbers than Sharp did playing center in 09-10.
- Ogilthorpe2

Don't know if he'd exceed Sharp's numbers but he'd be pretty good. Need at least half a season. But then again only if they get a true 3C to replace him on that line.
mvp0207
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Elk Grove , IL
Joined: 01.04.2011

Feb 21 @ 2:52 PM ET
I don't see Bolland ever putting up 60+ points. So I see no way that he would put up better numbers than Sharp.

You know...watching Bolland play the third line and the powerplay actually gives you a good idea if he could handle the second line duties as well. He doesn't just have to play on the second line to do that. I just don't see it.

- HawkFan27


Wasn't Bolland Havlat and Ladd our "second line" in 08-09. That year he put up 47 points and that was arguably our best line in terms of production. Havlat 77 points and Ladd 49 points.
NewToHockey
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.23.2010

Feb 21 @ 2:59 PM ET
If you can make a judgement from the 20 or so games he's played in that spot scattered through 3-4 seasons, you should be a pro scout. Give him a full season there I, gaurantee you he puts up better numbers than Sharp did playing center in 09-10.
- Ogilthorpe2

Just look at the run he and Hossa were on playing together last year during the 8 game win streak. Right up until the concussion, they were tearing it up together.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Feb 21 @ 3:03 PM ET
I don't see Bolland ever putting up 60+ points. So I see no way that he would put up better numbers than Sharp.

You know...watching Bolland play the third line and the powerplay actually gives you a good idea if he could handle the second line duties as well. He doesn't just have to play on the second line to do that. I just don't see it.

- HawkFan27



I don't like the idea of Bolland on the 2nd line, because I don't want Patrick Sharp and Marian Hossa playing defense most of the time, which would happen with Bolland on L2. His faceoff game would need to improve before I had any interest of him on L2.

I also like him focusing on shutting down other top lines, something he is great at doing.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 21 @ 3:03 PM ET
I don't see Bolland ever putting up 60+ points. So I see no way that he would put up better numbers than Sharp.

You know...watching Bolland play the third line and the powerplay actually gives you a good idea if he could handle the second line duties as well. He doesn't just have to play on the second line to do that. I just don't see it.

- HawkFan27

He's on pace for about 45 this year, he had 47 in 09-10 all in a 3rd line role playing with mostly defensive minded wingers. You honestly don't think he could chip in another 15-20 points if he was consistently playing with guys like Sharp, Kane, Hossa, or whoever Q's 2nd line flavor of the day wingers happen to be? He may not be the answer that I think he could be, but like with so many things during the Q regime, it's inexcusable that we don't know for sure.

It's going to take much more than a three game win streak to convince me that Q shouldn't be fired.
eburgio
Location: SF, CA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Feb 21 @ 3:06 PM ET
He's on pace for about 45 this year, he had 47 in 09-10 all in a 3rd line role playing with mostly defensive minded wingers. You honestly don't think he could chip in another 15-20 points if he was consistently playing with guys like Sharp, Kane, Hossa, or whoever Q's 2nd line flavor of the day wingers happen to be? He may not be the answer that I think he could be, but like with so many things during the Q regime, it's inexcusable that we don't know for sure.

It's going to take much more than a three game win streak to convince me that Q shouldn't be fired.

- Ogilthorpe2


you mean like winning a stanley cup 20 months ago?
HawkFan27
Joined: 11.10.2008

Feb 21 @ 3:06 PM ET
He's on pace for about 45 this year, he had 47 in 09-10 all in a 3rd line role playing with mostly defensive minded wingers. You honestly don't think he could chip in another 15-20 points if he was consistently playing with guys like Sharp, Kane, Hossa, or whoever Q's 2nd line flavor of the day wingers happen to be? He may not be the answer that I think he could be, but like with so many things during the Q regime, it's inexcusable that we don't know for sure.

It's going to take much more than a three game win streak to convince me that Q shouldn't be fired.

- Ogilthorpe2


Q switches up the lines ALL the time...yet he never really puts Bolland on the 2nd line. Obviously there could be a reason for that. I would tend to agree with Q on this one...Bolland isn't second line material.

Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 21 @ 3:07 PM ET
I don't like the idea of Bolland on the 2nd line, because I don't want Patrick Sharp and Marian Hossa playing defense most of the time, which would happen with Bolland on L2. His faceoff game would need to improve before I had any interest of him on L2.
- kwolf68

So then Sharp takes the draws...BFD. You're going to throw away all his other abilities because his FO % is less than ideal?
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 21 @ 3:10 PM ET
Q switches up the lines ALL the time...yet he never really puts Bolland on the 2nd line. Obviously there could be a reason for that. I would tend to agree with Q on this one...Bolland isn't second line material.
- HawkFan27

See, there's the difference. You trust Q's judgement, whereas I think he's an idiot.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 21 @ 3:10 PM ET
Well there you go. Didn't know that.

I don't use hockeysfuture for anything. I think that website is awful.

- mochoson


If you have a better one to use, let me know.
That is the only one I know of.
HawkFan27
Joined: 11.10.2008

Feb 21 @ 3:14 PM ET
See, there's the difference. You trust Q's judgement, whereas I think he's an idiot.
- Ogilthorpe2


Big assumption there.

All I did was add on to the reasons why Bolland should stay a 3rd line center and not become a 2nd line center.
droe411
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: ELK GROVE VILLAGE, IL
Joined: 09.30.2011

Feb 21 @ 3:16 PM ET
I kinda agree that it is weird that we don't know if Bolland can play 2C yet. You would have figured by now that the team would want to see if they have one on the roster all ready. I know he is great in a shut down role, but guess what? Who did the Hawks mention was similar to Bolland, and we know someone on this roster is a shut down type center? Kruger could very easily play the 3rd line shut down center on this team in my eyes. Who knows why we haven't found out though.........
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Feb 21 @ 3:20 PM ET
Big assumption there.

All I did was add on to the reasons why Bolland should stay a 3rd line center and not become a 2nd line center.

- HawkFan27

You said there must be a reason Q doesn't ever put Bolland on the second line...the reason according to most "in the know" is that, in Q's judgement he is most valuable as a 3rd line C. You seem OK with that, therefore I deduced that you trust Q's judgement...on this matter at least. I don't.
nathanjf
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Quebec, QC
Joined: 11.25.2010

Feb 21 @ 3:20 PM ET
Just McNeill then?

No thanks to Pirri.
Buffalo does not need another undersized forward, and especially a center, when they already have Ennis & Roy.

- kingcong39


In no universe is he worth that.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 21 @ 3:22 PM ET
Kronwall is a very good D man , physical and clean. The Hawks need a player like that.
- mrpaulish


He's a very good d-man. A lot of his hits are dirty. And he is a turtle.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Feb 21 @ 3:24 PM ET
Miller would not fit the model that Chicago is trying to build around. As for Myers, if I was starting a team today and had to pick 2 defensemen to anchor by blueline today and in the future, they would be Shea Weber and Tyler Myers. That should tell you what I think of him. The scary thing is that I think Ottawa in 2-3 years will have a top pair not too far from that in Karlsson and Cowen.
- andru2797


You mean the one that's 15th in the West in GAA? Or is that Crawford's fault?
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