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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:07 PM ET
he didn't have a good game. but he made 2 great stops with the game on the line to keep it at 1 and to keep it tied. hopefully he builds on that. i doubt it. but maybe he does?
- hammarby31


Hope so, but I'm not sure he should even be starting given the last 2 performances. Throw out Bob and see if he puts up a good game. If not, could it really be any worse than 4 goals on 26 shots for a .846 save %?
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:07 PM ET
It's obviously very early, but the way things look right now, there is a good chance Simmonds might be the better player than Richards going forward. I'm not sure if the L.A. system is hamstringing Richards or what, be he looks like a shell of what he was.

1 goal in his last 25 games.

- PLindbergh31


it's shocking that goal wasn't against the flyers.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 21 @ 10:07 PM ET
They deserved two points. They completely outplayed the Jets. Pavelec stole the Jets a point, and if it wasn't for heroics from JVR, Simmonds, Briere and Jagr he would have stole 2 points.
- PLindbergh31


No doubt. Pavelec was amazing in net tonight. The Flyers PK needs to get better. Winning a game can only help Bryz and his confidence.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 21 @ 10:07 PM ET
Unfortunately, he will be a scapegoat for the rest of the year whether they win or lose. Even if he pitches a shut out, he will be graded how difficult the opposition's chances were, if they weren't very difficult, it really wasn't a "good shut out".
- ravishingone


Not true. If he starts playing well, and steals some games he will get his credit. Still 20+ games and playoffs left. The season isn't a washout for Bryzgalov yet.
BringBack25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: deep lurk
Joined: 01.03.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:08 PM ET
So let me see if I've got this correct...

Despite the fact that we tied it up with 10 seconds left, and won in OT, against a team that has had our number for two seasons now, we should not be happy.

And the reason we shouldn't be happy is because our goalie, who has been mired in a funk, and had to have his hand x-rayed today, and was playing in one of the most hostile arenas in the NHL (at least to him), did not immediately return to all-star from and play lights out.

Cool, I got it. Because it makes perfect sense that he would be able to shake off an entire season of inconsistent play under those circumstances and play like the second coming of Patrick Roy. So I totally understand why folks on here are so livid that didn't happen tonight. Perfectly reasonable.

I will immediately stop celebrating and call up WIP (even though it's long distance for me) and start ragging on Byrz just to show my incredible hockey acumen and exercise my right to act like a total idiot.
Lexington Flyer
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NoHockeyTown , KY
Joined: 04.02.2008

Feb 21 @ 10:08 PM ET
Briere was invisible 99 percent of the game but good effort there at the end paid off
- Richieattack18


We have said that an awful lot about Briere during his time in Philly. You kind of forget about him and then
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:09 PM ET
Hope so, but I'm not sure he should even be starting given the last 2 performances. Throw out Bob and see if he puts up a good game. If not, could it really be any worse than 4 goals on 26 shots for a .846 save %?
- wolfhounds


they need to get him going. it's only going to happen if he plays. and bob's been shelled by the jets and didn't fair too well in relief against pittsburgh on saturday.
OrangeBlack27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: i do, mike, PA
Joined: 06.29.2006

Feb 21 @ 10:09 PM ET
It's obviously very early, but the way things look right now, there is a good chance Simmonds might be the better player than Richards going forward. I'm not sure if the L.A. system is hamstringing Richards or what, be he looks like a shell of what he was.

1 goal in his last 25 games.

- PLindbergh31


work ethic catching up with him when he's not surrounded by abundant talent...lol
Cable2k
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Terrace, BC
Joined: 08.29.2006

Feb 21 @ 10:09 PM ET
if this is the jvr we get the rest of the way ill be estatic. rick nash who?
- flyfan1212

I know .... JVR could end up being just as good if not better than Nash ... I hate hearing JVR +++ for Nash ...bunch of BS!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 21 @ 10:09 PM ET
it's shocking that goal wasn't against the flyers.
- hammarby31


The Kings played the Flyers very early in the season at the WFC. Richards had the game winning primary assist in OT to win the game.
Duran76
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Calmer than you are dude, PA
Joined: 07.25.2010

Feb 21 @ 10:09 PM ET
Carter with a "trade me right (frank)ing now" hatty

*now slam the phone*

*SLAM*

- KINGKENZO



I see he got another worthless game winning goal too.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:09 PM ET
So let me see if I've got this correct...

Despite the fact that we tied it up with 10 seconds left, and won in OT, against a team that has had our number for two seasons now, we should not be happy.

And the reason we shouldn't be happy is because our goalie, who has been mired in a funk, and had to have his hand x-rayed today, and was playing in one of the most hostile arenas in the NHL (at least to him), did not immediately return to all-star from and play lights out.

Cool, I got it. Because it makes perfect sense that he would be able to shake off an entire season of inconsistent play under those circumstances and play like the second coming of Patrick Roy. So I totally understand why folks on here are so livid that didn't happen tonight. Perfectly reasonable.

I will immediately stop celebrating and call up WIP (even though it's long distance for me) and start ragging on Byrz just to show my incredible hockey acumen and exercise my right to act like a total idiot.

- BringBack25


glad to have you on board
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:09 PM ET
What is going down in this mother(frank)er!!!
- Philly1980

US WINNING!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:10 PM ET
So let me see if I've got this correct...

Despite the fact that we tied it up with 10 seconds left, and won in OT, against a team that has had our number for two seasons now, we should not be happy.

And the reason we shouldn't be happy is because our goalie, who has been mired in a funk, and had to have his hand x-rayed today, and was playing in one of the most hostile arenas in the NHL (at least to him), did not immediately return to all-star from and play lights out.

Cool, I got it. Because it makes perfect sense that he would be able to shake off an entire season of inconsistent play under those circumstances and play like the second coming of Patrick Roy. So I totally understand why folks on here are so livid that didn't happen tonight. Perfectly reasonable.

I will immediately stop celebrating and call up WIP (even though it's long distance for me) and start ragging on Byrz just to show my incredible hockey acumen and exercise my right to act like a total idiot.

- BringBack25



bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:10 PM ET
win as a team, lose as a team, at the end of the game it sure seems like all the guys were sharing in the glory of the victory, not shunning the goalie.
- ravishingone

This!
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 21 @ 10:10 PM ET
work ethic catching up with him when he's not surrounded by abundant talent...lol
- OrangeBlack27


I'm not going to go there, but whatever the case, he looks lost.

And Simmonds has been a pleasant surprise. Guy has been a stud all year.
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:10 PM ET
The Kings played the Flyers very early in the season at the WFC. Richards had the game winning primary assist in OT to win the game.
- PLindbergh31


dude, i know. i was there.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:11 PM ET
So let me see if I've got this correct...

Despite the fact that we tied it up with 10 seconds left, and won in OT, against a team that has had our number for two seasons now, we should not be happy.

And the reason we shouldn't be happy is because our goalie, who has been mired in a funk, and had to have his hand x-rayed today, and was playing in one of the most hostile arenas in the NHL (at least to him), did not immediately return to all-star from and play lights out.

Cool, I got it. Because it makes perfect sense that he would be able to shake off an entire season of inconsistent play under those circumstances and play like the second coming of Patrick Roy. So I totally understand why folks on here are so livid that didn't happen tonight. Perfectly reasonable.

I will immediately stop celebrating and call up WIP (even though it's long distance for me) and start ragging on Byrz just to show my incredible hockey acumen and exercise my right to act like a total idiot.

- BringBack25

FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Feb 21 @ 10:11 PM ET
So let me see if I've got this correct...

Despite the fact that we tied it up with 10 seconds left, and won in OT, against a team that has had our number for two seasons now, we should not be happy.

And the reason we shouldn't be happy is because our goalie, who has been mired in a funk, and had to have his hand x-rayed today, and was playing in one of the most hostile arenas in the NHL (at least to him), did not immediately return to all-star from and play lights out.

Cool, I got it. Because it makes perfect sense that he would be able to shake off an entire season of inconsistent play under those circumstances and play like the second coming of Patrick Roy. So I totally understand why folks on here are so livid that didn't happen tonight. Perfectly reasonable.

I will immediately stop celebrating and call up WIP (even though it's long distance for me) and start ragging on Byrz just to show my incredible hockey acumen and exercise my right to act like a total idiot.

- BringBack25

well said ... but I'm afraid it's falling on deaf ears.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Feb 21 @ 10:11 PM ET
he didn't have a good game. but he made 2 great stops with the game on the line to keep it at 1 and to keep it tied. hopefully he builds on that. i doubt it. but maybe he does?
- hammarby31


You know what is important? After allowing that 4th goal, he did not allow a 5th.

Bad goals are going to happen, the key-especially for a guy battling his confidnce-is to keep it at one bad goal, and not two or three.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:11 PM ET
work ethic catching up with him when he's not surrounded by abundant talent...lol
- OrangeBlack27


guarantee it's john stevens' fault. that guy is like hockey cancer
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 21 @ 10:12 PM ET
dude, i know. i was there.
- hammarby31


Of course you were.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Feb 21 @ 10:12 PM ET
yea made of for his softies
- 2Real


It doesn't, but you have to just keep playing. It's two points on a night where they nearly got zero. Next game, apart from Bryzgalov playing better, they had better start getting the rest of the PK in order. Among others, Couturier has hit the wall big time since the ASB.

feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Feb 21 @ 10:12 PM ET


Fist pumps so hard his tie gets an erection. Amazing.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Feb 21 @ 10:12 PM ET
they need to get him going. it's only going to happen if he plays. and bob's been shelled by the jets and didn't fair too well in relief against pittsburgh on saturday.
- hammarby31


Yeah, I'm on the fence. I guess start Bryz next game and see if he catches fire. If not - and we pass the trade deadline with nothing happening - it's a fight for the starting goalie position and whoever wins gets it.

Bob didn't play well the other day, but he also came into a game in a bad situation. IMO, he deserves a chance to be the man as much as Bryz. I don't give a poop about contracts, only winning.
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