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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 20 @ 7:00 PM ET
I agree without you are saying. Timonen was frustrated with the goaltending, and made his feelings known. Same way the fans are frustrated and making their feelings known.
- PLindbergh31

I'm more bothered by the need to crucify young leaders of the team for showing some loyalty, making statements to motivate, to the point they're publicly lambasted as apologists. That they can't stand by their teammate without being scrutinized en masse for it is disappointing to me.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 20 @ 7:01 PM ET
The d seems to be really stacked for the stretch run, easily the best top 6 since Lava has been coach. The forwards have to do a better job of helping out in the defensive zone, and stop with the low risk cross ice passes in the offensive zone - I thought Richards was in LA?

Lava has to ride Bryz this road trip, I don't want him protected against the Jets.
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Feb 20 @ 7:01 PM ET
Has the world ended in Flyerdom yet?
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 20 @ 7:03 PM ET
Has the world ended in Flyerdom yet?
- KGBflyers10

It's more in a state of constant cataclysm. Think of it like a Michael Bay movie, where the everything in the world explodes in each scene, yet there's still more to blow up in the next scene.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 20 @ 7:03 PM ET
Personally I don't boo anyone. Just don't see the need to, I understand why fans do it to voice their displeasure. Does it help? Probably not, but it shouldn't hurt.

Fans are paying to be entertained. It's not all that different to going out to dinner. If the service is bad, and the food is cold, should the consumer just sit on his or her hands, or should they voice their concerns to the attention of the waiter? Fans don't have access to speak their gripes with Holmgren, or Laviolette, or the players, so their only recourse is to either stop going to the games, or booing if they are unhappy.

- PLindbergh31


Then cheering them shouldn't help and there should be no such thing as a home advantage and no one should expect one.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Feb 20 @ 7:04 PM ET
The d seems to be really stacked for the stretch run, easily the best top 6 since Lava has been coach. The forwards have to do a better job of helping out in the defensive zone, and stop with the low risk cross ice passes in the offensive zone - I thought Richards was in LA?

Lava has to ride Bryz this road trip, I don't want him protected against the Jets.

- ravishingone

I'd take a top six with a healthy Pronger over ours right now anyday. Not to say the corps isn't fairly stacked right now, of course.

I agree, ride the hell out of Ilya.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Feb 20 @ 7:04 PM ET
Briere would just point to his playoff stats, as well as bringing up the fact Gomez has two goals in a Calendar year, and Drury is off coaching Little League baseball.

Seriously though, he's had a down regualar season. hes missed games due to injuries. Briere makes his money in the playoffs. Sure he hasn't lived up to his cap hit this year, but he's on pace for about 45 points. So there has been some production.

- PLindbergh31



So if the flyers dont make the playoffs, briere doesn t get paid?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 20 @ 7:05 PM ET
I'm more bothered by the need to crucify young leaders of the team for showing some loyalty, making statements to motivate, to the point they're publicly lambasted as apologists. That they can't stand by their teammate without being scrutinized en masse for it is disappointing to me.
- BulliesPhan87


I didn't see anyone do that. Did the media paint Giroux and JVR as apologists? I missed that, but it wouldn't surprise me because like I said I don't feed into the atrocious mainstream media coverage that follows the team.
I don't have any issues with JVR and Giroux backing their teammate, nor do I have a problem with Timonen voicing his frustrations.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 20 @ 7:05 PM ET
I'm more bothered by the need to crucify young leaders of the team for showing some loyalty, making statements to motivate, to the point they're publicly lambasted as apologists. That they can't stand by their teammate without being scrutinized en masse for it is disappointing to me.
- BulliesPhan87



Giroux & JVR should have never been asked about the goaltending, the media does have a job to do, but those questions are for Lavy & Homer, not 2 young players on the team
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 20 @ 7:06 PM ET
Then cheering them shouldn't help and there should be no such thing as a home advantage and no one should expect one.
- bodiva88


Stop it with your logic and sense.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Feb 20 @ 7:07 PM ET
I'd take a top six with a healthy Pronger over ours right now anyday. Not to say the corps isn't fairly stacked right now, of course.

I agree, ride the hell out of Ilya.

- BulliesPhan87


Pronger was awesome in the cup run, but with Kraijeck and Parent the third pairing was painful. If the goalies can just make the routine saves, I expect the defense core to do the rest, the club has certainly added some size on the back line in the last few days.
bodiva88
Referee
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There aren't any answers. Only choices.
Joined: 07.01.2007

Feb 20 @ 7:07 PM ET
So if the flyers dont make the playoffs, briere doesn t get paid?
- RooNosHockey

You are being deliberately obtuse right?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 20 @ 7:12 PM ET
Then cheering them shouldn't help and there should be no such thing as a home advantage and no one should expect one.
- bodiva88


Agreed. People clapping & screaming and artificial noise being pumped into a building doesn't have any impact on the outcome of a game.

Familiarity with the rink, last change, and sleeping in your own bed/not being jetlagged have more to do with why teams win at home.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Feb 20 @ 7:12 PM ET
Has the world ended in Flyerdom yet?
- KGBflyers10


Lots of opinions. Flip a coin. Im more excited about hearing the next ridiculous trade rumor that involves the Flyers.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Feb 20 @ 7:13 PM ET
So if the flyers dont make the playoffs, briere doesn t get paid?
- RooNosHockey


Exactly. If the Flyers miss the playoffs Briere will be moving into the projects in Camden.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 20 @ 7:14 PM ET
Exactly. If the Flyers miss the playoffs Briere will be moving into the projects in Camden.
- PLindbergh31




There are some nice "bandos" for sale cash only
KGBflyers10
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 10.28.2007

Feb 20 @ 7:15 PM ET
Agreed. People clapping & screaming and artificial noise being pumped into a building doesn't have any impact on the outcome of a game..
- PLindbergh31


I actually disagree with this sentiment. I've been to plenty of Flyers games where they were not the favorites, and they pulled out a victory because the fans were going.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Feb 20 @ 7:19 PM ET
You are being deliberately obtuse right?
- bodiva88

What? What did you call me? Son, you're forgetting yourself. Don't you ever mention Briere's contract to me again, you (deleted)! Not in this office, not anywhere!
Coopaloop
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boston, MA
Joined: 06.08.2008

Feb 20 @ 7:21 PM ET
interesting video on csnphilly talking about hamels '09 and the similarities to bryz
jesustouchedme
Location: me0w
Joined: 02.09.2011

Feb 20 @ 7:21 PM ET
Exactly. If the Flyers miss the playoffs Briere will be moving into the projects in Camden.
- PLindbergh31

along with Bryz
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 20 @ 7:21 PM ET
Exactly. If the Flyers miss the playoffs Briere will be moving into the projects in Camden.
- PLindbergh31



Briere has had one of those seasons where you have to sometimes check the scoresheet to see if he played, maybe Jagr can get him started back up.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 20 @ 7:23 PM ET
along with Bryz
- jesustouchedme



I can't picture Mrs Bryz in a Camden project, no
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Feb 20 @ 7:23 PM ET
Briere has had one of those seasons where you have to sometimes check the scoresheet to see if he played, maybe Jagr can get him started back up.
- puckhead17


He certainly does a lot of aimless skating in circles on some of his shifts.
RooNosHockey
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bear, DE
Joined: 10.25.2011

Feb 20 @ 7:24 PM ET
Briere has had one of those seasons where you have to sometimes check the scoresheet to see if he played, maybe Jagr can get him started back up.
- puckhead17


briere's contract equals nash... he better start performing like atn least half the player nash is for the money he is getting paid.
puckhead17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Old Time Hockey
Joined: 08.14.2011

Feb 20 @ 7:25 PM ET
He certainly does a lot of aimless skating in circles on some of his shifts.
- MBFlyerfan



The Ottawa hat trick is almost all I can remember this year, then again, Molson sure is delicious!
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