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BoBBeR56
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Leaf Nation, ON
Joined: 06.30.2010

Feb 19 @ 4:18 PM ET
So you're saying fans of teams other than the Oilers know more about the Oilers than Oilers fans?

Keep in mind the Kings are desperate to find a way to score goals, and upper management jobs could be on the line if they don't make the playoffs this season.

- Maxbone


No, Oilers fans are biased about their players...Gagner has one amazing night and now he's a top line centre? Kings may be desperate but they aren't stupid...
Hemsky plays 2/3rds of a season at best, Gagner has never reached the 50pt mark...they aren't the answer the Kings are looking for...
And Schenn for Gagner a bad deal for Edmonton? ha ha ha ha ha...Tambelini would take that deal and RUN if it was available...
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Feb 19 @ 4:20 PM ET
Arguing that this deal is fair is about the same as arguing that smoking really isn't that bad for you.
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 19 @ 4:20 PM ET
Yea of little faith.
- Maxbone


the oilers are so soft if i were the GM I'd say PRV/Omark/1st rounder are for sale for some size in the top 6 and a top 4 dman...

Also what has PRV done other than cost the oilers games???? put omark in already.

mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 19 @ 4:20 PM ET
I've come to the conclusion hockey isn't a sport you watch anymore on hockeybuzz. Its just checking NHL.com and looking at stats and forming opinions on nothing.

Your all (frank)ing retarded.
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Feb 19 @ 4:21 PM ET
No, Oilers fans are biased about their players...Gagner has one amazing night and now he's a top line centre? Kings may be desperate but they aren't stupid...
Hemsky plays 2/3rds of a season at best, Gagner has never reached the 50pt mark...they aren't the answer the Kings are looking for...
And Schenn for Gagner a bad deal for Edmonton? ha ha ha ha ha...Tambelini would take that deal and RUN if it was available...

- BoBBeR56


Ummm, no. Speaking about being biased about your team. Does Schenn like life better in the press box, or in the trainer's room while the Leafs are playing?
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Feb 19 @ 4:21 PM ET
Why not draft Ryan Murray?
- deks1

Unproven. Farther away from being an imPact player.
Urethra Franklin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.06.2006

Feb 19 @ 4:21 PM ET
If Gagner and Hemsky can land Jack Johnson and Jon Bernier, then I wonder what Mikhail Grabovski and Clarke MacArthur are worth.
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Feb 19 @ 4:22 PM ET
Arguing that this deal is fair is about the same as arguing that smoking really isn't that bad for you.
- Meeqsb


You're right. It isn't fair for the Oilers. No need to throw in a 3rd round pick.
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 19 @ 4:22 PM ET
I've come to the conclusion hockey isn't a sport you watch anymore on hockeybuzz. Its just checking NHL.com and looking at stats and forming opinions on nothing.

Your all (frank)ing retarded.

- mochoson


agree.... id give the blues a 2nd rounder for Jackman cause he scored 1 goal in 150+ games. That would be a huge over payment too.
fsanford
Joined: 10.28.2009

Feb 19 @ 4:22 PM ET
How does getting two top six forwards make no sense for the lowest scoring team in the league?

I can't even take how stupid these blogs get anymore.

- mochoson


Why do you think Hemsky will find his touch in Los Angeles?



Urethra Franklin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.06.2006

Feb 19 @ 4:22 PM ET
Ummm, no. Speaking about being biased about your team. Does Schenn like life better in the press box, or in the trainer's room while the Leafs are playing?
- Maxbone


Schenn's played more games this season than Gagner, so I don't really understand your point.
USA_Parise9
Joined: 04.26.2011

Feb 19 @ 4:23 PM ET
What he's saying is that fans of other teams are able to look at the Oilers without any kind of bias.
- Urethra Franklin



whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Feb 19 @ 4:23 PM ET
So Gagner should play behind Nuge and your draft pick, but ahead of Kopitar or Richards?

Aside from that being a bad deal for the Kings to begin with, Gagner doesn't crack LA's top 2 lines either.
TheDyingOilerFan
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Regina, SK
Joined: 01.31.2010

Feb 19 @ 4:24 PM ET
Wow, now that's a terrible deal.

Oilers give four assets for two, and the two immediate players the Oilers give are as talented or better than the two the Kings send this way?

Gross.

- Maxbone


Ya at the time it looks Horrid but Remember this JJ would look great on our PP i know he's a mess in his own end but he is a top 4 guy. As for Bernier he has looked good in His reps he has got.

As for Gags he's a quality #2 yes. Hemmer is a UFA who probably won't be here next year. Martindale would never crack the Lineup if we have Nuge Or Grigs/Gal and the pick is kinda like sorry for making you look stupid Dean.
Mystery
Joined: 09.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 4:24 PM ET
I really don't think Johnson and Bernier have more value than Hemsky and Gagner. Gagner is the best all-around asset in this deal. Johnson is strong offensively and weak defensively, and Bernier is completely unproven as an NHL starter. Hemsky is the only player on the board who has had close-to point-per-game seasons.
- Maxbone


Hemsky is an injury waiting to happen who looks completely lost this year and is a UFA. Gagner has never had a 50 point season in the NHL. Johnson gives almost as much offense from the blue line that Gagner does. Bernier has tons of value even if he is unproven.

If you seriously believe the Kings would make this deal, then I hope to hell Burke is on the phone with Lombardi, offering Grabovski and something else, to get Bernier and Johnson, heck he can even throw in a third rounder
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Feb 19 @ 4:24 PM ET
Schenn's played more games this season than Gagner, so I don't really understand your point.
- Urethra Franklin


Ummm, that's like saying Eric Belanger is worth more than Gagner because he's played in more games too.
Killbot460
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Compton, AB
Joined: 08.06.2010

Feb 19 @ 4:25 PM ET
honestly the kings don't need anymore forwards, they need a new system or a change of leadership in the room
Urethra Franklin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.06.2006

Feb 19 @ 4:25 PM ET
Ummm, that's like saying Eric Belanger is worth more than Gagner because he's played in more games too.
- Maxbone


No, you implied that Schenn was often hurt or a healthy scratch and both are entirely false.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Feb 19 @ 4:26 PM ET
How does getting two top six forwards make no sense for the lowest scoring team in the league?

I can't even take how stupid these blogs get anymore.

- mochoson

You think this is bad? Go to a teams message board or Facebook page.
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Feb 19 @ 4:26 PM ET
So Gagner should play behind Nuge and your draft pick, but ahead of Kopitar or Richards?

Aside from that being a bad deal for the Kings to begin with, Gagner doesn't crack LA's top 2 lines either.

- whosyodaddy


Richards has and can play the wing.
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Feb 19 @ 4:26 PM ET
Why not draft Ryan Murray?
- deks1


Because that would make too much sense.

AND NO RICH!!!! NO BYE BYE FOR GAGGSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
Richard Cloutier
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Boyle, AB
Joined: 07.30.2008

Feb 19 @ 4:26 PM ET
No, you implied that Schenn was often hurt or a healthy scratch and both are entirely false.
- Urethra Franklin


Ummm, no, I implied he is the 5/6 defenseman in TO when he plays. If you need glasses, I can mail you some.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Feb 19 @ 4:28 PM ET
Unproven. Farther away from being an imPact player.
- Jack-artist


Every single kid in the draft is unproven.
Urethra Franklin
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 07.06.2006

Feb 19 @ 4:29 PM ET
Ummm, no, I implied he is the 5/6 defenseman in TO when he plays. If you need glasses, I can mail you some.
- Maxbone


Really? Then what does "Speaking about being biased about your team. Does Schenn like life better in the press box, or in the trainer's room while the Leafs are playing?" mean?
isles10289
Joined: 02.17.2009

Feb 19 @ 4:29 PM ET
Galchenyuk is not coming straight to the NHL. He just missed the entire OHL season with an injury, so he's a year behind. He'll still go top 6 in the draft, but he won't go straight to the NHL.
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