I really don't think Johnson and Bernier have more value than Hemsky and Gagner. Gagner is the best all-around asset in this deal. Johnson is strong offensively and weak defensively, and Bernier is completely unproven as an NHL starter. Hemsky is the only player on the board who has had close-to point-per-game seasons.
- Maxbone

Clouts you're the man, get me every time.

To the LA Kings - Sam Gagner, Ales Hemsky and a 3rd round pick

To the Edmonton Oilers - Jack Johnson and Jonathan Bernier

Nope... you're not gonna get me to bite today Clouts.

To the LA Kings - Sam Gagner, Ales Hemsky and a 3rd round pick

To the Edmonton Oilers - Jack Johnson and Jonathan Bernier

Nope... you're not gonna get me to bite today Clouts.
- matthew barry

To the LA Kings - Sam Gagner, Ales Hemsky

To the Edmonton Oilers - Jack Johnson and Thomas Hickey

Better?

It isn't that unrealistic of a trade. I'd add a pick if I was Edmonton, likely a conditional one based on if Hemsky resigns. That's it. Its a fair deal. That doesn't mean I do it personally.

Gagner is a forward who scores and at least is making strides in his defensive game. Jack Johnson is a defensemen who can't play a lick of d.

The bolded doesn't even make any sense. Gagner wouldn't be replacing Jack Johnson. Voynov would.
- mochoson

That is not a fair deal at all. Quit smoking the pipe. An UFA and a C we don't need. And please don't say Richards plays the wing. We've tried that and it didn't work.

For a defenseman having the best season of his career and a goalie who might become our starter if Quick doesn't re-sign.

I'd rather not take that chance with 2 guys who have a lot of ? marks about them or aren't what we need.

Next.

I am absolutely baffled as to how Voynov is in the AHL. He is already superior to Johnson in terms of playing D.
- mochoson

It is because we can't send anyone else down or they have to clear waivers. Voynov doesn't.

Bad luck for him.

I personally am of the opinion that Omark is almost as talented as Hemsky but with way more patience and far better puck protection skills. Omark is so good at protecting the puck along the boards and behind the net, although he is sometimes a little selfish with the puck, but then he makes an incredible pass to set up a goal! He is also not affraid to take a hit! Although Hemsky was one of my faves throughout the years, the risk to price to skill ratio between Hemsky and Omark is not even comparable! What if hemsky starts slugging it up like horcoff and we're locked into him for five years! At least with Omark theres no risk! We need to keep as much cap space for our future years to re-sign the likes of Hall, Eberle, Nuge, and the rest of our keepers! Looking back now would you care if the oilers got a 2nd rounder for Horcoff at the end of a contract year, instead of being trapped into keeping him around! Likely not!!!

He has been absolutely unreal this year. You have no clue.
- mochoson

Uh... he got barely any, and I mean barely, PP time in LA. Over a 1/3 of his points are on the PP. Take away his PP points and he is averaging slightly above the amount of PPG he was averaging on the Kings. All while playing on the number one offense in the league and getting 2nd line minutes, while he only got 3rd line on the Kings most nights.

Unreal is a gross overstatement.

I personally am of the opinion that Omark is almost as talented as Hemsky but with way more patience and far better puck protection skills. Omark is so good at protecting the puck along the boards and behind the net, although he is sometimes a little selfish with the puck, but then he makes an incredible pass to set up a goal! He is also not affraid to take a hit! Although Hemsky was one of my faves throughout the years, the risk to price to skill ratio between Hemsky and Omark is not even comparable! What if hemsky starts slugging it up like horcoff and we're locked into him for five years! At least with Omark theres no risk! We need to keep as much cap space for our future years to re-sign the likes of Hall, Eberle, Nuge, and the rest of our keepers! Looking back now would you care if the oilers got a 2nd rounder for Horcoff at the end of a contract year, instead of being trapped into keeping him around! Likely not!!!
- oilerfreq

yet we continue to read Barry's blog
- Kaptainkesler

Lol... well I guess it's like the intro on Viva La Bam where the announcer says "What will he do next?"

Just change do to say and you got Barry.

I'm not a fan of the trade. JJ is good offensively but bad in his own end. He isn't what the Oilers need in their top four. The Oilers need a good defensive dman with size that is physical. They also aren't in need of an unproven net minder not at a high cost anyway.

Why would the Oilers even contemplate Gagner in a package like this. He has heart, work ethic and is 22 years old. It's not like he has reached his full potential. Hemsky is worth more than fans on this forum think. The only knock on Hemmer is his injury history. It can't be denied but also undeniable is his talent level when healthy.

The Oilers made a commitment to build through the draft and like all rebuilding teams they have roster weakness. That doesn't mean they will trade assets for players that don't fit with their rebuilding plans. They have prospects developing, upcoming drafts and free agency to address the teams shortcomings so unless a trade is proposed that fits with what they need I doubt Tambellini suddenly gets foolish and makes a trade like this.

45-65 points is a big range.
- Kaptainkesler

I see more or less next season as highly unlikely but anything in between as plausible. To be a little less vague, I am hoping for a 60 point year from Gagner next year. Given his increasing age, experience and maturity, and the fact that he will usually not be up against the other team's best defenders I see 60 points as very plausible. 70 points is as unrealistic as 30 IMHO.
Brief!

I see more or less next season as highly unlikely but anything in between as plausible. To be a little less vague, I am hoping for a 60 point year from Gagner next year. Given his increasing age, experience and maturity, and the fact that he will usually not be up against the other team's best defenders I see 60 points as very plausible. 70 points is as unrealistic as 30 IMHO.
Brief!
- thefullnelson

When you consider Gagner stepped straight into the NHL and at 22 years old many players are still in the AHL he is an under rated asset.

Uh... he got barely any, and I mean barely, PP time in LA. Over a 1/3 of his points are on the PP. Take away his PP points and he is averaging slightly above the amount of PPG he was averaging on the Kings. All while playing on the number one offense in the league and getting 2nd line minutes, while he only got 3rd line on the Kings most nights.

Unreal is a gross overstatement.
- StayTunedMTC

Literally none of this is accurate.

So what if hes playing on the poweplay now? So were only going by even strength scoring now?

Hemsky to whoever will give us a 1st round pick for him.

Tyler Myers for both 1st round picks (possibly + a prospect)

If we're gonna try and trade Hemsky, common theme I'm reading everywhere is that somehow Edmonton needs to get a quality d-man for him. I can't see any of these proposed multi-player deals happening. I also can't see the Oil getting a pick and a D prospect for him straight up and we also know no-one is interested in trading a proven 1/2 d-man for him either.

I say best bet is to work with what they have. Keep Omark and Gagne and use the 1st round picks to get what they need, a young NHL ready 1/2 pairing D-man.

Myers might be seen as untouchable because of the sweet contract he has but that would be three 1st round picks for Buffalo in what is looking like a pretty strong draft year. So lets say the Oil get 2nd overall and 23rd overall and draft Matt Dumba and Malcom Subban. All of a sudden a Dumba/Subban for Myers trade looks like Edmonton might have lost the deal so I think Buffalo might go for it.

That is not a fair deal at all. Quit smoking the pipe. An UFA and a C we don't need. And please don't say Richards plays the wing. We've tried that and it didn't work.

For a defenseman having the best season of his career and a goalie who might become our starter if Quick doesn't re-sign.

I'd rather not take that chance with 2 guys who have a lot of ? marks about them or aren't what we need.

Next.
- StayTunedMTC

In no way, shape, or form should jack johnson be considered a defensemen

I have already completely lost interest in this game. Get out your sharpies and circle June 22nd on your calendar.

I have already completely lost interest in this game. Get out your sharpies and circle June 22nd on your calendar.
- spawnofbettman

Canucks played last night, oilers should be able to take advantage

What makes you think that this kid is NHL ready?

The most likely scenario is this kid needs a few season in the AHL who's going to fill the position.

Hemsky to whoever will give us a 1st round pick for him.

Tyler Myers for both 1st round picks (possibly + a prospect)

If we're gonna try and trade Hemsky, common theme I'm reading everywhere is that somehow Edmonton needs to get a quality d-man for him. I can't see any of these proposed multi-player deals happening. I also can't see the Oil getting a pick and a D prospect for him straight up and we also know no-one is interested in trading a proven 1/2 d-man for him either.

I say best bet is to work with what they have. Keep Omark and Gagne and use the 1st round picks to get what they need, a young NHL ready 1/2 pairing D-man.

Myers might be seen as untouchable because of the sweet contract he has but that would be three 1st round picks for Buffalo in what is looking like a pretty strong draft year. So lets say the Oil get 2nd overall and 23rd overall and draft Matt Dumba and Malcom Subban. All of a sudden a Dumba/Subban for Myers trade looks like Edmonton might have lost the deal so I think Buffalo might go for it.
- digitalmike

good deal.

Canucks played last night, oilers should be able to take advantage
- woopstash

It's already 2-0 Vancouver.

Smyth with three giveaways on that one shift. The one leading to the non-goal was especially awful.

My god....2 goals and 17 shots in the first period by the Nucks.
Oilers have 6.....y'all need help. Here, have Ballard.

It's already 2-0 Vancouver.

Smyth with three giveaways on that one shift. The one leading to the non-goal was especially awful.
- Jack-artist

2-0 isn't much. Especially when there's two periods left. Canucks will get more and more tired as the game goes on.

My god....2 goals and 17 shots in the first period by the Nucks.
Oilers have 6.....y'all need help. Here, have Ballard.
- Whiskey-Tango

That's what happens when you throw 18 year old into the NHL with out proper development.

That's what happens when you throw 18 year old into the NHL with out proper development.
- duckyjets

No doubt, whats he weigh? 140-145? Looks like a female art major out there.

2-0 isn't much. Especially when there's two periods left. Canucks will get more and more tired as the game goes on.
- woopstash

I don't know if I was clear enough, but the Oilers are quite (frank)ing bad.