Must have crapped out there.. then dragged it in here.

If that Trade went down - EDm will have 3 goalies with one way contracts. Unless Tambi has adeal for Khabby - it can't be done. Maybe Columbus would take him for Vermette.

More random thoughts while reading posts.
1)Lotts sandy vag's today. Wouldn't it be nice if we could come here and talk about hockey without ridiculing and belittling one another? It's a rumours site people - some of us come here for interesting discussion, and player X for player Y is interesting this time of year regardless of whether it's possible.
2)Again with the draft a defender! I really hope we don't draft a D-man unless all the can't-miss forwards are already gone (ie we go on a big winning streak and lose the lottery). This has been done to death, but once again, forwards taken in the top five are almost-sure-things. Defenders taken in the top five... do not consistently outperform those drafted late in round 1. You're right that we need defense, but drafting a can't-miss defensemen is not possible because there is no such thing! If you absolutely MUST do something risky and rash to upgrade the D now, swap the 1st rounder+ for a Subban or a Doughty or a Weber or the best young sure-thing defensement who has already shown himself to be a young sure-thing defensemen. Be aware that the more specifically you target a player, the more you have to overpay. I'd way rather draft a ~70% Messier 2.0 (oh please, oh please) than get a ~30% chance Nick Lidstrom 2.0, particularly knowing that almost all NHL defensemen, even those taken in the top five, require several years to grow into their role.
3)Speaking of dead horses, here come the Kessel Deal (DUN!). I wouldn't make that deal in a million years; however, the Leafs got exactly what they wanted out of him, so it could be they knowingly overpaid so they could get exactly what they need instead of getting third best. The real loser of this trade is Phil Kessel whose entire career will be judged by whether he was an overpayment or not. Kid's got game and he don't deserve that.

You'd never take an established player over a draft prospect?

That's the most retarded thing I've read on here.
- Zombie

I said that backwards

If that Trade went down - EDm will have 3 goalies with one way contracts. Unless Tambi has adeal for Khabby - it can't be done. Maybe Columbus would take him for Vermette.
- crazywolf

A 1 way contract simply means they get paid the NHL salary regardless.

I said that backwards
- mochoson

So were you choked to see Carter leave?

Lombardi will not get fired if Kings do not make the playoffs, he has 2 more years on his contract.. See other post about AEG having to pay 2 GMS and 3 coaches if Lombardi were fired.

Unfortunately Dean will be around next year. Helene Elliot has said Dean has given AEG his vision of what they need to do in the off season. Sounds like has already resigned himself to the fact they are not going to turn into a scoring juggernaut this year no matter who they acquire.

After the season is over they will fire Jamie Kampon their PP coach, they will hire Bernie Nichols for that position.. System changes will be made and they will take a run, via trade or free agent signing, at getting a top line winger.
- fsanford

I didn't know Lombardi's contract status (*looks embarassed*). In that case, maybe the smart move for him is do nothing and hope that an off-season spent golfing while all the other good teams get to try to win the Cup will put more desire into the squad and the new coaches can (hopefully) give them a better system to play? I've been watching LA's rebuild with interest and I'll be disappointed if they miss the playoffs because I want to see these players challenge for a Cup. The only really bad deal Lombardi's done that I'm aware of was Penner, and I think he may have let himself get pressured into making that one. the terrible return LA got for Smyth wasn't Dean's fault at all - the one genuine smudge on Smyth's career IMO is the situation he left the LA Kings in with his trade demand (*backs away from sacred cow with hands in air while explaining really fast that I love Smytty too folks but the truth's the truth, turns and runs*)

To edmonton.....
Jack Johnson, Jonathan Bernier....
To LA
Gagne, 2012. 1rst rnd pick


Hemskey to Tor. For Carl Gunnerson.

Edm will not have the $ to pay all these number one's in 3 years.....

But you now have your franchise goalie and an anchor for your defense.

More random thoughts while reading posts.
1)Lotts sandy vag's today. Wouldn't it be nice if we could come here and talk about hockey without ridiculing and belittling one another? It's a rumours site people - some of us come here for interesting discussion, and player X for player Y is interesting this time of year regardless of whether it's possible.
2)Again with the draft a defender! I really hope we don't draft a D-man unless all the can't-miss forwards are already gone (ie we go on a big winning streak and lose the lottery). This has been done to death, but once again, forwards taken in the top five are almost-sure-things. Defenders taken in the top five... do not consistently outperform those drafted late in round 1. You're right that we need defense, but drafting a can't-miss defensemen is not possible because there is no such thing! If you absolutely MUST do something risky and rash to upgrade the D now, swap the 1st rounder+ for a Subban or a Doughty or a Weber or the best young sure-thing defensement who has already shown himself to be a young sure-thing defensemen. Be aware that the more specifically you target a player, the more you have to overpay. I'd way rather draft a ~70% Messier 2.0 (oh please, oh please) than get a ~30% chance Nick Lidstrom 2.0, particularly knowing that almost all NHL defensemen, even those taken in the top five, require several years to grow into their role.
3)Speaking of dead horses, here come the Kessel Deal (DUN!). I wouldn't make that deal in a million years; however, the Leafs got exactly what they wanted out of him, so it could be they knowingly overpaid so they could get exactly what they need instead of getting third best. The real loser of this trade is Phil Kessel whose entire career will be judged by whether he was an overpayment or not. Kid's got game and he don't deserve that.
- thefullnelson

The the D the Oilers have they will never win the cup. You guys need to draft D and stop worrying about the offense. Run and gun offense doesn't win you championships.

I said that backwards
- mochoson

Thank goodness

To edmonton.....
Jack Johnson, Jonathan Bernier....
To LA
Gagne, 2012. 1rst rnd pick


Hemskey to Tor. For Carl Gunnerson.

Edm will not have the $ to pay all these number one's in 3 years.....

But you now have your franchise goalie and an anchor for your defense.
- landros 2

Why would the Leafs trade Gunnarsson for a UFA?

So were you choked to see Carter leave?
- whosyodaddy

Not even a little bit.

Despite how talented he is, I couldn't stand watching Jeff Carter in a Flyers uniform.

Thank goodness
- Zombie

Give me the benefit of the doubt their friend!

Not even a little bit.

Despite how talented he is, I couldn't stand watching Jeff Carter in a Flyers uniform.
- mochoson

Well, that's two trades the Flyers made this summer where they gave up all stars for a whole pile of unknown. Just saying.

Back away from the crack pipe... You have burned your lips!!!

I am absolutely baffled as to how Voynov is in the AHL. He is already superior to Johnson in terms of playing D.
- mochoson

Its purely because hes the only Dman with an actual waiver free 2way deal atm. We needed to recall some forwards. So instead of losing Martinez on waivers (kid is actually a solid player) we send down Voynov. Now when JJ IS traded Voynov will be back.

Well, that's two trades the Flyers made this summer where they gave up all stars for a whole pile of unknown. Just saying.
- whosyodaddy

As of now, both trades have worked out nicely.

On top of that, the Flyers now have a solid corps of young, NHL ready players who can be flipped for an established star if they wanted to.

I don't think the Flyers are interested in Nash, but they're an example of a team who have the assets to pull off the move without gutting their core like a team like the Leafs would have to.

As an Oiler fan I would absolutely do this deal. I do think that we would have to throw in a little more for the Kings to bite.

As for the draft, I agree that if the Oilers do fall out of the top 5 they should either take Galchenyuk or trade the pick straight up or in a package for a proven defenceman. I've been a fan of Galchenyuk all year and sincerely believe that if he had a full season under his belt he would be right up there with Yakupov and Grigorenko.

Kings fans need to realize that Johnson and Bernier are not exactly top tier trade bait. Sure, they are young and have tons of potential. But Johnson is strictly an offensive defenceman and Bernier has a lower Save % than Dubnyk! The Kings are struggling mightily to puck the puck in the net and Gagner and Hemsky would contribute consistently.

P.S. All the people saying Hemsky is only worth a 2nd rounder, you have ZERO knowledge about hockey. Thats like saying Hemsky and Domonic Moore's value is the same. That is complete nonsense....

You know there are much better deals out there involving those two LA pieces than the one you have suggested. I mean Grossman just got 2 picks, but you think JJ will go for Gagner?
- whosyodaddy

Picks are undervalued at the trade deadline and overvalued at the draft. This year's draft is looking mighty thin after the first few players. Those two picks are magic beans and I'm willing to bet neither pick turns into an actual NHL player. I would give it a 5% chance that one of the two picks turns out.

Gagner on the other hand is a proven commodity. He has been miscast and he hasn't had much help or luck in Edmonton so far. Since he's been put on a line with Hall and Eberle he has proven he can produce in an offensive role. He also played mostly wing in his rookie season while Cogliano played the middle.

If you want to trade JJ for two crappy picks go right ahead.

Well, that's two trades the Flyers made this summer where they gave up all stars for a whole pile of unknown. Just saying.
- whosyodaddy

Carter, Versteeg, and Richards

for

Couterier, Voracek, Schenn, Simmonds, Grossman, and Kubina

Yup. Whole lots of nothing.

How about Khaby Hemskey for Tyutin

As of now, both trades have worked out nicely.

On top of that, the Flyers now have a solid corps of young, NHL ready players who can be flipped for an established star if they wanted to.

I don't think the Flyers are interested in Nash, but they're an example of a team who have the assets to pull off the move without gutting their core like a team like the Leafs would have to.
- Urethra Franklin

I'm not saying they were bad trades, just Moch was saying he would never trade an established player for prospects. Aside from signing Bryz with the money, it seems to have worked out fine with the Flyers.

Its purely because hes the only Dman with an actual waiver free 2way deal atm. We needed to recall some forwards. So instead of losing Martinez on waivers (kid is actually a solid player) we send down Voynov. Now when JJ IS traded Voynov will be back.
- poisondhearts37

Understandable.

I know you knew what you ment to say, but for the record, 2-way deal has nothing to do with waiver eligibility.

How about Khaby Hemskey for Tyutin
- VANTEL

How would Hemsky help CBJ in the slightest?

Why would they deal a defenceman they just extended for a 40-year-old goalie?

Carter, Versteeg, and Richards

for

Couterier, Voracek, Schenn, Simmonds, Grossman, and Kubina

Yup. Whole lots of nothing.
- mochoson

I never said nothing, I said unknown. Odd that you would add Grossman and Kubina to that list as you just picked them up this week, and likely have more to do with Pronger's LTIR status than anything else.