Right. Steve mason of the 3.47 gaa and .885 sv% is going to save the flyers goaltending. Not so much.

The Flyers should not trade for a goalie. I may be one of the few but I do not want to get rid of Bob just for the sake of getting rid of Bob. Bryz would be impossible to trade and it isn't going to matter who you get in goal if the team in front of them doesn't start playing better.

The Flyers need to ride it out this year and reevalute over the summer.
- Flyers_01

nobody wants to get rid of bob for the sake of it. if another alternative is out there and fair value for bob can be had, we need to try and provide an alternative.

Like Fedourk said yesterday (forgot who put the tweet up) Let the guy play and get behined him for (frank)s sake. Some fans are just (frank)ing stupid and need to walk outside when there is a thunderstorm with a tin foil hat

We will all laugh at yesterday's gameday blog come June.

There...I said it.

As always, a good summary and a good follow up to questions.

I think the additions of Grossman and Kubina are overdo.
IMHO to answer the above:

1. Nash's contract is too much to swallow. To bring him on would mean either Briere or Bryz have to move.

2. Both goalies are playing not to make mistakes as apposed to playing to make saves. They are both fragile in a way that makes no sense. Especially considering Bryzgalov and what he did in Anaheim and Phoenix.

3. Yes. Maybe not during the season, and ALL of the assistant coaches.

4. I agree that a big lockdown checking forward would be a great addition. Someone who eats minutes and plays PK. If it wasn't for his contract I would say Pahlsson based on what he did in that role in Anaheim.
- wbon22

re: 2, sounds about right. know next to nothing about goaltending, but it seems both guys get in trouble when they're not being aggressive. typical softy on bryz seems to come off the rush where he's not far from the goal line and just drops into a leaky butterfly.

nobody wants to get rid of bob for the sake of it. if another alternative is out there and fair value for bob can be had, we need to try and provide an alternative.
- isaiah520

Keep-Options-Open.

I dont advocate trading anyone on this team but if Homer feels its needed then so be it.

are people serious with this fire lava nonsense??

They have been getting on Bryzgalov almost the second he had his first bad game. For a supposedly knowledgeable hockey base we have here, the rabble sure are stupid about hockey.

YESTERDAY, Bryz let up three bad goals. All three had extenuating circumstances.

1) a 2 on 1 off a bad turnover. Bryz contributes to the problem by over committing to the potential pass and coming slightly off the post, getting beat shortside. Understandable in a small degree because of how many wide open looks this team gives up in those situations. However, this time Grossman played it the right way. And Bryz CAN NOT allow himself to be beat on that side of the net.

2)A terrible turnover by Giroux leads to a breakout coming the other way. Staal gets a clean shot with Bryz should handle easily. No screen, not deflected, not a particularly hard shot. Probably the worst goal all season.

3)5 on 3 powerplay in which the Flyers are all just standing still. Allowing even the 3 players the Pens have on the ice to defend it easily. This lack of movement gets a Flyer player in trouble and he flips an airborne pass back to the point which Timonen , who is already flatfooted, cannot handle and it is off to the races. The Penguin flips a shot which makes its way between Bryz's arm and body for the third bad goal.

Bottom line is that they were all stoppable bad goals. But I will not sit here and say like so many others that Bryz is 100% at fault at not blame every other guy on this team for making bad decisions and plays that contributed to the situation.

Then have to sit here and watch Bob let up terrible goals as well, and have to listen to people have their double standards.

Bryz is the guy, the fans, the team, the city, all have to accept it and do one of two things. a)try to run the guy out of town, put up roadblock after roadblock to further exacerbate his confidence problems, or b) get behind the guy and the team and help him get his head straight.

Some in here will say, oh, he makes so much money, he needs to take it. BullCRAP! I don't care how much money you make at work, if all day long all you hear is what a POS you are all day, it is going to bother you and affect you negatively. If you say it wouldn't, you are either an idiot or a liar.

Bryz is here for a long time. Get used to it, get behind him. He is a likeable guy. He isn't a jerk, he genuinely cares about how the fans perceive him and he wants to do well. We as fans can either help that, or hinder that. Right now, we are just being like Iggles troglodyte fans. I thought we were more sophisticated than that. Able to see the subtleties and get to the root of the WHOLE problem with this team, not just the blame the ONE goalie idiots.

I support Bryz.

- MBFlyerfan

I have no argument that the team as a whole is playing like crap and perhaps the three Breeze let in yesterday did involve extenuating circumstances.

That said, I am not so concerned with goals he lets up due to the difficult situations the team places him in at times. At those times, I get concerned with the overall team play. But what I am also very concerned with, like so many of us, are the shots that have no reason going in. And there have been way too many this year. I can't think of anyone on this site, both the rabble and the self proclaimed experts, who would disagree.

And I agree that Breeze is the man. Not because he's playing well, but because Homer placed him in that position with the virtually unmovable contract he gave him. There is nothing we can do about it at this point so we have no choice but to accept it. But that doesn't mean we have to accept the play of the team in general or the goaltending in particular. Fans are disappointing at this point and have a right to be.

Question. Knowing last July what you know now, would you still have given Breeze the same contract?

Personally, I think Breeze will rise above it all and play like he's expected. When? I don't know. Hopefully it'll be sooner than later.

Keep-Options-Open.

I dont advocate trading anyone on this team but if Homer feels its needed then so be it.
- stveshdy

Do you think they are good enough as is?

Do you think they are good enough as is?
- joepa90

Good enough to win the cup? Maybe. Only bc teams/goalies can get hot at any time and its all about matchups. I think they have the talent but defensively they need to get better overall. Theres work to do. Right now they are not better than Boston or NYR.

for whatever reason, bryz has struggled in his first season here. he's clearly shown the ability to be a top goalie in this league. he didn't just forget how to play. as aggravated as i am with his play, i know he can be the goalie the flyers need him to be. and whether we like it or not, the flyers and bryz are married. bob, as much as we all like him, has not shown the ability to take the keys this year when given the chance, whether the team has sucked in front of him or not. bryz is their best chance to go anywhere this year. i just don't want homer to panic, and the players - all of them - to just do their jobs minimizing the mistakes. stop playing like ass on home ice. this team has a lot of talent and leadership. just get it the frick together. and maybe grossman/kubina will make a significant difference. they certainly can't make it worse. gusty and bourdon may well be serviceable dmen one day, but it's not happening this year. homer HAD to upgrade the d, and he did that, even if they're two UFA's. nothing but picks (and no firsts). plenty of time to right this ship.

Like Fedourk said yesterday (forgot who put the tweet up) Let the guy play and get behined him for (frank)s sake. Some fans are just (frank)ing stupid and need to walk outside when there is a thunderstorm with a tin foil hat
- bigmookalookie

after almost 25 yrs of iffy goaltending, I can't blame them for booing yesterday's performance in net...it was that bad. I don't like to boo players on my home team, but I understand if yesterday's abomination was too much for others to hold back.

Will someone trade someone already

are people serious with this fire lava nonsense??
- FlyerMike18

i'm driving the bus. get on or gtfo.

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Will someone trade someone already

Can I drive shotgun

i'm driving the bus. get on or gtfo.
- OrangeBlack27

only if derian hatcher is his replacement

Like Fedourk said yesterday (forgot who put the tweet up) Let the guy play and get behined him for (frank)s sake. Some fans are just (frank)ing stupid and need to walk outside when there is a thunderstorm with a tin foil hat
- bigmookalookie

That was me. And Fedoruk's message was mostly for the teammates and their play on the ice.

for whatever reason, bryz has struggled in his first season here. he's clearly shown the ability to be a top goalie in this league. he didn't just forget how to play. as aggravated as i am with his play, i know he can be the goalie the flyers need him to be. and whether we like it or not, the flyers and bryz are married. bob, as much as we all like him, has not shown the ability to take the keys this year when given the chance, whether the team has sucked in front of him or not. bryz is their best chance to go anywhere this year. i just don't want homer to panic, and the players - all of them - to just do their jobs minimizing the mistakes. stop playing like ass on home ice. this team has a lot of talent and leadership. just get it the frick together. and maybe grossman/kubina will make a significant difference. they certainly can't make it worse. gusty and bourdon may well be serviceable dmen one day, but it's not happening this year. homer HAD to upgrade the d, and he did that, even if they're two UFA's. nothing but picks (and no firsts). plenty of time to right this ship.
- hammarby31

It isn't just Bryz who needs to find the soul to play here.

Good enough to win the cup? Maybe. Only bc teams/goalies can get hot at any time and its all about matchups. I think they have the talent but defensively they need to get better overall. Theres work to do. Right now they are not better than Boston or NYR.
- stveshdy

I agree it is all about matchups. That being said the only chance I think they have at making a run is if they slip to the 6th spot and play Florida or Washington. And cross your fingers that 1 of Bos and or NY get bounced in the first round. I just cant see them beating the Pens in a 7 game series

So, Bill, what are your thoughts on:

1. Trading for Nash?

2. Trading for another goalie options?

3. Changing coaches?

4. Other potential deals?

Sorry, getting bummed by all the negativity and idiocy
- Jsaquella

Hmmm...how do I say this?...
1. H - E - double hockey stix - YES!... he's still a viable star with plenty of gas in the tank. We'd be unstoppable against a team with two shut down defensive pairings. Our top 3 lines would be sick. I would hope we could saddle them with Bryz instead of Bob and get back Mason. I would give JVR, Bryz, Coburn , and a prospect for Nash and Mason.

2. 1 solves 2. And even Leighton is playing great this year. He might get a well deserved look. (Yes...I see Mason's stats, but sometimes new environments fix problem which is probably what Bryz would need after his "this city" comment yesterday so I am not too worried about the NMC). Also, we have that great prospect coming up so the cupboard is not bare.

3. and 4. Stop it already. They system isn't the problem. The talent on D and psyche in goal is the problem. Nobody is perfect every game day (see football coach named Reid). We've addressed the D issue for this year already. And we'd have some room next year if all of Bryz (5.667MM), Cobie(4.5MM), and JVR(4.25MM) were gone vs. Nash (7.8MM) and Mason (2.9MM) . We would end up @ 10.7 instead of the 14+ we are already @.

Although we would probably have to take another big money short term contract for all this to work.

Can I drive shotgun
- jesustouchedme

automatic copilot

I agree it is all about matchups. That being said the only chance I think they have at making a run is if they slip to the 6th spot and play Florida or Washington. And cross your fingers that 1 of Bos and or NY get bounced in the first round. I just cant see them beating the Pens in a 7 game series
- joepa90

Dont disagree. Unless they start playing better hockey towards the end of the year it looks that way.

They have been getting on Bryzgalov almost the second he had his first bad game. For a supposedly knowledgeable hockey base we have here, the rabble sure are stupid about hockey.

YESTERDAY, Bryz let up three bad goals. All three had extenuating circumstances.

1) a 2 on 1 off a bad turnover. Bryz contributes to the problem by over committing to the potential pass and coming slightly off the post, getting beat shortside. Understandable in a small degree because of how many wide open looks this team gives up in those situations. However, this time Grossman played it the right way. And Bryz CAN NOT allow himself to be beat on that side of the net.

2)A terrible turnover by Giroux leads to a breakout coming the other way. Staal gets a clean shot with Bryz should handle easily. No screen, not deflected, not a particularly hard shot. Probably the worst goal all season.

3)5 on 3 powerplay in which the Flyers are all just standing still. Allowing even the 3 players the Pens have on the ice to defend it easily. This lack of movement gets a Flyer player in trouble and he flips an airborne pass back to the point which Timonen , who is already flatfooted, cannot handle and it is off to the races. The Penguin flips a shot which makes its way between Bryz's arm and body for the third bad goal.

Bottom line is that they were all stoppable bad goals. But I will not sit here and say like so many others that Bryz is 100% at fault at not blame every other guy on this team for making bad decisions and plays that contributed to the situation.

Then have to sit here and watch Bob let up terrible goals as well, and have to listen to people have their double standards.

Bryz is the guy, the fans, the team, the city, all have to accept it and do one of two things. a)try to run the guy out of town, put up roadblock after roadblock to further exacerbate his confidence problems, or b) get behind the guy and the team and help him get his head straight.

Some in here will say, oh, he makes so much money, he needs to take it. BullCRAP! I don't care how much money you make at work, if all day long all you hear is what a POS you are all day, it is going to bother you and affect you negatively. If you say it wouldn't, you are either an idiot or a liar.

Bryz is here for a long time. Get used to it, get behind him. He is a likeable guy. He isn't a jerk, he genuinely cares about how the fans perceive him and he wants to do well. We as fans can either help that, or hinder that. Right now, we are just being like Iggles troglodyte fans. I thought we were more sophisticated than that. Able to see the subtleties and get to the root of the WHOLE problem with this team, not just the blame the ONE goalie idiots.

I support Bryz.

- MBFlyerfan

This may be the best thing I've ever read here.

Dont disagree. Unless they start playing better hockey towards the end of the year it looks that way.
- stveshdy

Well this slip in the standings might end up being a godsend if they can land in that 6th spot.