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Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:30 AM ET
Yepppppppp, It's really too bad, imagine this leafs team + Rask, we'd be doing very very very good.

Siiiighhhh, I guess i shouldnt feel that bad, rebuilds usually take 5+ years, Burkie hasnt been here that long, and he had a pretty big mess to clean up.
Miller in my opinion is totally available, just not to the Leafs....
It's too bad Calgary is on this wicked hot run, or i'd be suggesting we take a stab at kipper.

Maybe Halak? How much would schneider cost us?

Dare we go for a #1 goalie thats like 20-30 in the league like Hiller etc?

Reimer isn't going to carry this team, Gustavvson is a much better prospect that reimer imo, ive always been a big gus fan. Reimer can't stop a beachball if you throw it anywhere near the top of the net.

- JDBrickz



Grabo + Aulie + Gus and a Second for Schneider ... Gillis would think hard about that one
JDBrickz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.03.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:30 AM ET
i don't Penner is on my top 5 pancakes list well at least i don't mind trading for him if we give Connolly up since Penner is UFA in july
- Kuleminator

Nooooo, You know how many pancakes and waffles would be on the ice?
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 12:31 AM ET
i don't Penner is on my top 5 pancakes list well at least i don't mind trading for him if we give Connolly up since Penner is UFA in july
- Kuleminator



the only way i take penner is if another plug goes back

the last thing we need to do is be giving up prospects and picks for another 4.5 million dollar overrated pylon of a winger!
Sundin113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montreal
Joined: 02.18.2012

Feb 19 @ 12:31 AM ET
wonder what the price for halak is? i'd like to see them get a somewhat accomplished tender in that mid 20's range. and elliot has stolen the show in st louis... had another shut out today.
- joel878


Look at St Louis's needs. I can't really see who they would want for Halak from us.
Considering what they traded for him i don't see them wanting a huge return.

A first and a prospect maybe?
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:31 AM ET
Yepppppppp, It's really too bad, imagine this leafs team + Rask, we'd be doing very very very good.

Siiiighhhh, I guess i shouldnt feel that bad, rebuilds usually take 5+ years, Burkie hasnt been here that long, and he had a pretty big mess to clean up.
Miller in my opinion is totally available, just not to the Leafs....
It's too bad Calgary is on this wicked hot run, or i'd be suggesting we take a stab at kipper.

Maybe Halak? How much would schneider cost us?

Dare we go for a #1 goalie thats like 20-30 in the league like Hiller etc?

Reimer isn't going to carry this team, Gustavvson is a much better prospect that reimer imo, ive always been a big gus fan. Reimer can't stop a beachball if you throw it anywhere near the top of the net.

- JDBrickz

well Varlamov went for a top 10 1st rounder and top 10 2nd rounder. I think most if not all scouts would rate Schnieder and Rask higher then him. A package built around Schenn or Gardiner
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 12:31 AM ET
Grabo + Aulie + Gus and a Second for Schneider ... Gillis would think hard about that one
- Kuleminator



man.. to much i think. rather resign grabo than flip him for rental value...
JDBrickz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.03.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:32 AM ET
Grabo + Aulie + Gus and a Second for Schneider ... Gillis would think hard about that one
- Kuleminator

If that were true, i'd do it. Somehow i think canucks fans will disagree.
It'd be more like Grabo + Gardiner+ Gus + 1st
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:32 AM ET
Indeed, Even not knowing what Rask would have been, Rask was a 7th overall pick? Why the hell would you trade your 7th overall for Andrew Raycroft. Still makes me sick man, i'd do the Kessel trade 2x over if it meant i could take back this one.
- JDBrickz




humm not sure he was drafted that high i think 21 or something like that but still he was the second rated goalie behind price HUGE mistake you don't give up on a top draft pick that fast
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 12:33 AM ET
Look at St Louis's needs. I can't really see who they would want for Halak from us.
Considering what they traded for him i don't see them wanting a huge return.

A first and a prospect maybe?

- Sundin113



i'd consider it.. depending on the prospect. maybe see if they'll leave our cupboard alone and go with gunnar and a 2nd.. or something in that neighbourhood.

they're dying to get ben bishop up anyways. bet they'd part with halak...
Sundin113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montreal
Joined: 02.18.2012

Feb 19 @ 12:33 AM ET
man.. to much i think. rather resign grabo than flip him for rental value...
- joel878



I agree but you have to give up something good to get something good in return.
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:33 AM ET
Grabo + Aulie + Gus and a Second for Schneider ... Gillis would think hard about that one
- Kuleminator

Maybe van throws in Kesler and Edler too Give your head a shake. Schnieder only leaves van for a big, tough top six + or a young top 4 d man +
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:33 AM ET
the only way i take penner is if another plug goes back

the last thing we need to do is be giving up prospects and picks for another 4.5 million dollar overrated pylon of a winger!

- joel878



Penner for Komisarek
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 12:34 AM ET
If that were true, i'd do it. Somehow i think canucks fans will disagree.
It'd be more like Grabo + Gardiner+ Gus + 1st

- JDBrickz





for schneider! can you imagine.. talented young tender. but at the end of the day, he's only a couple of years younger than cam ward and has proven absoloutly NOTHING.
JDBrickz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.03.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:34 AM ET
Look at St Louis's needs. I can't really see who they would want for Halak from us.
Considering what they traded for him i don't see them wanting a huge return.

A first and a prospect maybe?

- Sundin113


They'd want a goalie to go with Elliot.

They'd want a 1st round pick

And they'd want a player that can help them make a playoff run.
wingz4life
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Canada Sucks, MI
Joined: 01.31.2006

Feb 19 @ 12:35 AM ET
Kings playing Penner in the finals minutes
this team needs Rick nash more then anyone

Sundin113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montreal
Joined: 02.18.2012

Feb 19 @ 12:35 AM ET
Maybe van throws in Kesler and Edler too Give your head a shake. Schnieder only leaves van for a big, tough top six + or a young top 4 d man +
- Kaptainkesler


Schenn (young and potentially top 4) + first rounder?
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:35 AM ET
Maybe van throws in Kesler and Edler too Give your head a shake. Schnieder only leaves van for a big, tough top six + or a young top 4 d man +
- Kaptainkesler




switch Aulie for Gardiner then as sick as that makes me to give up Jake we need a true goalie that bad and we can suffer the lost on defense
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:35 AM ET
If that were true, i'd do it. Somehow i think canucks fans will disagree.
It'd be more like Grabo + Gardiner+ Gus + 1st

- JDBrickz

while that clearly sarcasm, its going to take a package built around Schenn or Gardiner.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 12:36 AM ET
Maybe van throws in Kesler and Edler too Give your head a shake. Schnieder only leaves van for a big, tough top six + or a young top 4 d man +
- Kaptainkesler



right.. and a 30 goal center, a prospect defenseman who can play most teams top 4 right now, a back up goalie, and a decent draft pick clearly wouldn't cover that need.
JDBrickz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.03.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:36 AM ET


for schneider! can you imagine.. talented young tender. but at the end of the day, he's only a couple of years younger than cam ward and has proven absoloutly NOTHING.

- joel878

He has proven he can play in big games and have a very acceptable save % and GAA for a #1 goalie. He'd have alot more proven if he wasnt behind Luongo. The canucks have to trade Schnieder eventually, the kid is gonna want money or #1 spot at some point... And trading Lu..... impossible.
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:37 AM ET
I agree but you have to give up something good to get something good in return.
- Sundin113





True not every Gm is Darryl Sutter like
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:37 AM ET
switch Aulie for Gardiner then as sick as that makes me to give up Jake we need a true goalie that bad and we can suffer the lost on defense
- Kuleminator

I think I'd do that. I don't even think I'm being homerish. I suggested a package similer to that on our board and got torched by canuck fans
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 12:37 AM ET
Schenn (young and potentially top 4) + first rounder?
- Sundin113



good god no.

just plain to unproven.. let someone else gamble. it's not like we're desperate to pay a price like that for a goalie, like it's the last piece we need to win a cup. rather keep our assets and be patient...
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:38 AM ET
right.. and a 30 goal center, a prospect defenseman who can play most teams top 4 right now, a back up goalie, and a decent draft pick clearly wouldn't cover that need.
- joel878




Gillis would consider that offer for sure he would be nuts otherwise
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 12:38 AM ET
He has proven he can play in big games and have a very acceptable save % and GAA for a #1 goalie. He'd have alot more proven if he wasnt behind Luongo. The canucks have to trade Schnieder eventually, the kid is gonna want money or #1 spot at some point... And trading Lu..... impossible.
- JDBrickz



who's the last goalie that was traded for a package like that? seriously.. just wondering.
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