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Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:46 PM ET
yeesh!


- robin_steele264

clarkysduster
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I have absolutely no idea why , ON
Joined: 01.11.2012

Feb 18 @ 11:47 PM ET
Top 10 NHL goalie for a bust? Ya no thanks.
- Scooby_Doo


I agree schenn isn't as valuable, but you can't possibly consider him a top 10 goalie. He's a talented, unproven backup goalie...
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 18 @ 11:47 PM ET
Schenn has been a major letdown, ask any leafs fan.
- Scooby_Doo



take that from a vancouver fan? the same group that constantly chastises leaf fans for being to irrational? take your own advice bud. i don't care what anyone says. schenn is fine. he stepped into the nhl at age 18 in a position that alot of people don't properly develop to until there in their mid to late 20's. he's 20 (frank)ing 2.
whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:48 PM ET
Grabovski would be great...for Raymond.
- Scooby_Doo


Meh, Grabo is a UFA who's gonna ask for 4.5.........
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 18 @ 11:48 PM ET
Grabovski would be great...for Raymond.
- Scooby_Doo



lol..

and goodbye credibility..
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 18 @ 11:48 PM ET
I agree schenn isn't as valuable, but you can't possibly consider him a top 10 goalie. He's a talented, unproven backup goalie...
- clarkysduster



I think he'd be the clear #1 on a few teams... Leafs and Oilers for example...


Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:48 PM ET
Grabovski would be great...for Raymond.
- Scooby_Doo

only if grabovski gets a new batch of sticks
Sundin113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montreal
Joined: 02.18.2012

Feb 18 @ 11:49 PM ET


Schnieder and Raymond for Kulemin, Reimer and Gardiner.

- Kaptainkesler


Take Gardiner out add Schenn + D'Amigo (or a prospect of equivalent value)

joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 18 @ 11:49 PM ET
Meh, Grabo is a UFA who's gonna ask for 4.5.........
- whosyodaddy



sure.. if anything, wouldn't we be adding to your impending cap doom by trading you schenn and grabovski?
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:50 PM ET
schnieds has had the benefit of playing on the moose, one of the best AHL franchises, the van behind Lu on one of the best squads in the league, and we all expect him to be the saviour of a questionable team? Do the leafs give up on Reims that easy, one good half season, good start this year, and a sophmore slump hits and. (frank) him he's crap. Here's a new word for my fellow leafs fans.........develop
- gojets



The Truth is ...... we suck against top team ... (Boston,Vancouver the list goes on) heck we can even beat Florida i think we're not ready yet and i rather miss the playoffs and continue the rebuild than get our ass kick by New York in 4 just saying
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 18 @ 11:50 PM ET
I think he'd be the clear #1 on a few teams... Leafs and Oilers for example...



- robin_steele264



you're bang on. but jon bernier probably fits that statement to.

at the end of the day, unproven is the key word.
gojets
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.10.2007

Feb 18 @ 11:50 PM ET
exactly..

overpaying for a goalie now isn't going to win the team a cup. be patient with what we have, and grab pieces as they become available for rational prices. these guys would have you believe schneider is worth schenn and our 1st rounder. not likely..

- joel878


as soon as guys struggle, fellow leafers wanna blow them out! We finaly get to a point where things are on the up and up, and their still looking for some TNT
whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:51 PM ET
sure.. if anything, wouldn't we be adding to your impending cap doom by trading you schenn and grabovski?
- joel878



There is no impending cap doom, unless we win the cup. If that happens, we'll take the impending cap doom.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Feb 18 @ 11:51 PM ET
you're bang on. but jon bernier probably fits that statement to.

at the end of the day, unproven is the key word.

- joel878



Sure... not like Schenn has proven much at the same time.


gojets
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.10.2007

Feb 18 @ 11:52 PM ET
The Truth is ...... we suck against top team ... (Boston,Vancouver the list goes on) heck we can even beat Florida i think we're not ready yet and i rather miss the playoffs and continue the rebuild than get our ass kick by New York in 4 just saying
- Kuleminator


Your right. Why? Because we're not ready yet. Period. We're close, jut not all the way there.
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:52 PM ET
I think he'd be the clear #1 on a few teams... Leafs and Oilers for example...



- robin_steele264

clm, wsh, tampa, philly and chi. are a few more teams. I think every fan overvalues their players but Schenn for Schnieder come on not close. Gladly take him to the draft and get his due value.
whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:53 PM ET
Sure... not like Schenn has proven much at the same time.
- robin_steele264


He reminds me of a young Aaron Rome.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 18 @ 11:53 PM ET
as soon as guys struggle, fellow leafers wanna blow them out! We finaly get to a point where things are on the up and up, and their still looking for some TNT
- gojets



there's no need. with or without a blowup.. with or without the playoffs. the team is still going freaking nowhere this season. block it out and look for the future. would be nice to add another first rounder to the cupboard in june. hopefully burkie doesn't cave to the pressure before the deadline.

a move like nash on the other hand? if the price is right.. i'm all for it. tough to pass up a potential franchise player.. if it doesn't take away from the core group, just adds to it.
whosyodaddy
Vancouver Canucks
Location: well that was fun
Joined: 08.06.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:53 PM ET
Your right. Why? Because we're not ready yet. Period. We're close, jut not all the way there.
- gojets


Close to a playoff team, not close to the cup.
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:55 PM ET
Your right. Why? Because we're not ready yet. Period. We're close, jut not all the way there.
- gojets



maybe in 2 years when our overpayed craps will be gone ie (armstrong,Connolly,lombardi) and maybe we can sign both Perry and Getz (just dreaming...)
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:56 PM ET
Take Gardiner out add Schenn + D'Amigo (or a prospect of equivalent value)
- Sundin113

we need a young d man with low cap hit. You take out Gardiner, add Schenn and either Franson, Aulie or Gunnerson
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 18 @ 11:56 PM ET
Sure... not like Schenn has proven much at the same time.
- robin_steele264



sure.. guess that makes guys like bogosian a bust to? pietrangelo? think schenns played more games then them?

people need need to breathe. he's 22. most kids that play his type of defender can't even crack the (frank)ing nhl by the time their 22.
gojets
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Winnipeg, MB
Joined: 02.10.2007

Feb 18 @ 11:57 PM ET
Close to a playoff team, not close to the cup.
- whosyodaddy


of course. Close to having a perrenial playoff lineup. Nobody' ever that close to the cup. Look how many low seeds have gone to the final.
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 18 @ 11:57 PM ET
there's no need. with or without a blowup.. with or without the playoffs. the team is still going freaking nowhere this season. block it out and look for the future. would be nice to add another first rounder to the cupboard in june. hopefully burkie doesn't cave to the pressure before the deadline.

a move like nash on the other hand? if the price is right.. i'm all for it. tough to pass up a potential franchise player.. if it doesn't take away from the core group, just adds to it.

- joel878

While I agree with you, I doubt burke does. He always says you have to go for it every yr.
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 18 @ 11:59 PM ET
While I agree with you, I doubt burke does. He always says you have to go for it every yr.
- Kaptainkesler



i've grown my reservations with burke. we're talking about the man that continues to employ ron wilson. of course he's going to do something stupid.
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