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twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 19 @ 12:50 AM ET
5 Teams behind the Leafs - 6pts or less - if just 1 team catches fire out of those 5

- MTL1[Wsh, WPG, TB, NYI, MTL]

the Leafs will lose the 8th sport

lmao FLA is like 1 or 2 points ahead of the Leafs. The same goes for you
JDBrickz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.03.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:50 AM ET
Schenn, Reimer for Khabibulin + offensive prospect (a good one)
- Sundin113

Wouldn't cost this much. And theres no way in hell i'd send Schenn to a team with that many young prospects already, they'd scare the frank out of me.

I think that Blacker + Reimer + 2nd would get it done.
gosensgo18
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Feb 19 @ 12:51 AM ET
cant catch us now with your games in hand modafokassss wooooooooo eat it
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 12:52 AM ET
What if paajarvi is coming back? i personally think he can become a great offensive threat
- Sundin113



if the word bust is floating around about schenn.. (insert inevitable assumption about paajarvi here)

1 goal in 37 games. we've already invested enough in schenn. i would prefer to see him not get traded unless it's in a deal for an obvious upgrade, and a guaranteed part of the core for the forseeable future.
Sundin113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montreal
Joined: 02.18.2012

Feb 19 @ 12:52 AM ET
too much in my opinion Schneider might be good but still unproven i will not give up 2 first and Kulemin for him
- Kuleminator


Kulimen and a first then? I see the Nucks asking for more though.
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:52 AM ET
that's what i said Gillis would Take Grabovski+Gus+Gardiner+ a 2nd anytime for him i know the leafs overpay on that one but we need a goalie and Vancouver gets Depth plus a great stud D-Man for the future
- Kuleminator

that deal doesn't help vancouver. WE are what top 3 or 4 in goals scored. Grabo doesn't fill a need. We don't need prospects now. Your window to win is only open so long. Making a deal like this doesn't make the canucks better right now. They gain a bit of scoring but lose a great insurance policy if lu gets hurt or goes awol. Not a chance Gillis makes that deal
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:53 AM ET
Wouldn't cost this much. And theres no way in hell i'd send Schenn to a team with that many young prospects already, they'd scare the frank out of me.

I think that Blacker + Reimer + 2nd would get it done.

- JDBrickz




At the end of the Day our Biggest strenght is Defensive Depth and our Biggest Weakness is Goaltending 2+2 = 4
JDBrickz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 06.03.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:53 AM ET
too much in my opinion Schneider might be good but still unproven i will not give up 2 first and Kulemin for him
- Kuleminator

I'd give you Gardiner + Grabo + Gus + 2nd for Schnieder anyday.

But would BB? Probably not.

Plus i really do think Grabo stays with Toronto.
Sundin113
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montreal
Joined: 02.18.2012

Feb 19 @ 12:53 AM ET
if the word bust is floating around about schenn.. (insert inevitable assumption about paajarvi here)

1 goal in 37 games. we've already invested enough in schenn. i would prefer to see him not get traded unless it's in a deal for an obvious upgrade, and a guaranteed part of the core for the forseeable future.

- joel878


Absolutely, but with trades you never know. Gm's get under pressure and make bad deals all the time. It's fun thinking about what possibly could happen. If Schenn is traded Burke will get something back.. and that piece will be a top player or goalie
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:53 AM ET
Kulimen and a first then? I see the Nucks asking for more though.
- Sundin113

not a chance van does that. Makes us worse right now, and we are all in too win right now
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 12:54 AM ET
what r you trying to say? that a young player could fail? Sure he could. Same could be said for Schenn or Gardiner. Gardiner has played what 50 games, quite a few protected minutes? Schenn has struggled mightaly this season. I just don't know how you can say that one young player is a risk and the next isn't or that he's gonna be great.
- Kaptainkesler



because you guys aren't demanding a non guaranteed young player for a non guaranteed young player, follow?

you guys are hammering the boards touting your non guaranteed player for packages that include our only 30 goal center, high end draft picks, and the 2 brightest defensive prospects our team has seen in the last decade or two.

i'm just saying that no matter how you want to spin it, if i'm in charge.. i don't want to invest a package of our brightest players for an unproven (25 year old) youngster.. when there's goalies out there who are more accomplished and will come with a cheaper price tag.
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:54 AM ET
that deal doesn't help vancouver. WE are what top 3 or 4 in goals scored. Grabo doesn't fill a need. We don't need prospects now. Your window to win is only open so long. Making a deal like this doesn't make the canucks better right now. They gain a bit of scoring but lose a great insurance policy if lu gets hurt or goes awol. Not a chance Gillis makes that deal
- Kaptainkesler




Schneider is gone after this year.... so one day or another Gillis is gonna pull the trigger sincer he is RFA he will not resign to warm the bench again would you ?
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:56 AM ET
I'd give you Gardiner + Grabo + Gus + 2nd for Schnieder anyday.

But would BB? Probably not.

Plus i really do think Grabo stays with Toronto.

- JDBrickz

I agree Grabo stays a leaf
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:57 AM ET
I'd give you Gardiner + Grabo + Gus + 2nd for Schnieder anyday.

But would BB? Probably not.

Plus i really do think Grabo stays with Toronto.

- JDBrickz



no i think Grabo is gone at 5 Millions Per i'll say bye bye to hin as well

I do love the Schenn for Mc Neill Rumor we need a big strong center like him and i was hoping Burke was going to move up to get him at the draft
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 12:58 AM ET
I'd give you Gardiner + Grabo + Gus + 2nd for Schnieder anyday.

But would BB? Probably not.

Plus i really do think Grabo stays with Toronto.

- JDBrickz



i don't pass gardiner for really anything...

remember what varlamov went for? i think even he was probably worth more than schneider. he's younger, and at least he had the reigns of a team for a certain period in his career.

varlamov went for a two firsts, i don't pay more than say aulie and a 1st for schneider... or a 1st and a 2nd. doesn't fit their needs? oh well..
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 19 @ 12:59 AM ET
Schneider is gone after this year.... so one day or another Gillis is gonna pull the trigger sincer he is RFA he will not resign to warm the bench again would you ?
- Kuleminator

umm you better check your facts. Vancouver has arbitration rights on Schnieder, he goes no where this summer if the deal isn't right. Besides there are a boat load of teams needing a starting goalie, I bet there would be plenty of action on him
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 1:00 AM ET
Absolutely, but with trades you never know. Gm's get under pressure and make bad deals all the time. It's fun thinking about what possibly could happen. If Schenn is traded Burke will get something back.. and that piece will be a top player or goalie
- Sundin113



bang on. burkie knows what he has in schenn, and has proven more than once that he won't have his hand forced at the deadline. i wouldn't be suprised to see burkie stand pat other than a small deal or two.. but if schenn is involved.. i'm confident it'll be for a young quality player that the team is lacking now.
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 1:01 AM ET
umm you better check your facts. Vancouver has arbitration rights on Schnieder, he goes no where this summer if the deal isn't right. Besides there are a boat load of teams needing a starting goalie, I bet there would be plenty of action on him
- Kaptainkesler




i know but even if they got arbitration rights he has said he wants to start so the writting is on the wall that he's as good as gone
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 1:03 AM ET
bang on. burkie knows what he has in schenn, and has proven more than once that he won't have his hand forced at the deadline. i wouldn't be suprised to see burkie stand pat other than a small deal or two.. but if schenn is involved.. i'm confident it'll be for a young quality player that the team is lacking now.
- joel878




Mc Neill and a first is a good deal to Me we Have too many D-Men anyway we could start 2 teams

Schenn-Phaneuf-Komi-Gunnar-Blacker-Percy-Aulie-Franson-Liles-Gardiner- the list goes on
twiztedmike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2007

Feb 19 @ 1:03 AM ET
the stench of this place changes so fast. I swear to god last year Stamkos was not even worth dealing Schenn to you people.
Kaptainkesler
Joined: 02.21.2011

Feb 19 @ 1:04 AM ET
i know but even if they got arbitration rights he has said he wants to start so the writting is on the wall that he's as good as gone
- Kuleminator

Every goalie wants to start. But if van offers arbitration he's stuck(well unless he holds out)
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 1:05 AM ET
Mc Neill and a first is a good deal to Me we Have too many D-Men anyway we could start 2 teams

Schenn-Phaneuf-Komi-Gunnar-Blacker-Percy-Aulie-Franson-Liles-Gardiner- the list goes on

- Kuleminator



sure it's a good deal... but i'm not dealing schenn just for the sake of dealing schenn. if i'm looking for a deal just for the sake of moving a blueline.. i'll take the smaller return in the form of gunnar or aulie. schenn has the higher ceiling, and should be kept unless the return is part of a package that brings in a cam ward (just an example) type player.. not for futures..

just my opinion.
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 1:05 AM ET
the stench of this place changes so fast. I swear to god last year Stamkos was not even worth dealing Schenn to you people.
- twiztedmike




not to me lol i'll take 5 schenn to make one Stamkos


i'll do that deal 101 times out of a 100
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Feb 19 @ 1:06 AM ET
the stench of this place changes so fast. I swear to god last year Stamkos was not even worth dealing Schenn to you people.
- twiztedmike



man, as a leaf fan.. i was all about the schenn and a 1st for stamkos rumours. (frank)ing rights!

but you're right.. people seem awful trigger happy to get schenn out of town these days.
Kuleminator
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 10.14.2011

Feb 19 @ 1:06 AM ET
Every goalie wants to start. But if van offers arbitration he's stuck(well unless he holds out)
- Kaptainkesler



no Steve Mason And Bryz both want to go Hide in Irak after today
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